Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet?

[Darth Niob]

Darth Niob -No, because he was answering what you would seek if you wanted to get a current helmet from an original source.
TE wasn't listed because there are no TE helmets being made anymore. They are TE2. I suppose if you wanted to list previous helmet sources, then yes you would include TE.

Pappy - No, the TE and TE2 molds are the same. They simply changed hands, so finding a currently produced helmet would lead you to a TE2. The TE line was retired when TE2 was founded. They are the same product from the same molds, just by a different owner.

Thats i wanted to know

Hi pappyHow is it going?:thumbsup

 

[Pappy]

I'm not so sure about that sentence

So do i,it always appeared after he(TE) told everyone that he wont make them available anymore(on those days)

animetronic,yes i meant its the same mold,but TE appears to 'recast' the source's mold without permission(correct me if im wrong GINO),and then that same mold is bought by TE2 from TE.
Since TE2 bought it from TE,TE would know that his mold is in TE2's hands and thats 'legit':angel

HEY NIOB,alive and well!! good to see you man!

 

[GINO]

The history of the molds is a long complicated story. For another time perhaps. Until then, one day when I felt up to it, I posted a ton of stuff in the FISD armor history thread.

For now, I'd like to hear what people think about that TM faceplate.

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[Studio Stasis]

I'm not so sure about that sentence

I believe you're talking about helmets that he might be offering currently? I wouldn't call those TE helmets, as they have nothing to do with the previous TE molds or products as we know them. I'd say that should be called something else entirely, but I don't know what the appropriate title would be. Weren't they ROTJ helmets? The name would depend on the source I guess. I don't know where those were sourced from so I don't know if that's an entirely new product or what. Either way, it doesn't fit in with the TE/TE2 or AP lines.

Also, Gino - you're dead accurate. There are countless variables in matching a stormtrooper sculpt and those pictures are proof that the faceplate is the same. I would tend to agree that the dome is probably the same as well. Someone mentioned seeing the TM original sculpt at one time? I would have to see that to believe it. That is dead on. I know the photos make them look different, but I can get those same results trying to match up two of the helmets in my own collection from different focal distances/angles and with each helmet having its own character by assembly variance, but being made from the exact same molds. The similarities that stand out to me are too consistent. I think I can help you with those photo comparisons Gino. I just need one of your helmets added to my collection for photography purposes. You'll get it back someday, k?

 

[bagpus3]

At one o'clock above from the bump, in the pic's there's another area on both the left & right helmet's pictured that I can't quite make out, but apppears to be something like "dimpling" could be lighting?

 

[GINO]

I just need one of your helmets added to my collection for photography purposes. You'll get it back someday, k?

No prob. Sending it out right now along with Jet Beetle's for his super awesome compliment. :thumbsup

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[Pappy]

Good thing GINO:thumbsup,maybe a way to answer the confusions:sick
How 'bout TM's helmet cheek? I think its different from any other helmets....thoughts anybody?

 

[GINO]

I was just kidding.

To your point though, I do believe he modified/cleaned it up quite a bit but it's clear to me that it's a recast and not his original sculpture.

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[TK1536]

I recently weathered a TM helmet/suit for a local guy and compared it to my TE helmets. The one major difference that I noticed is that the forehead of the face plate is much flatter, and not as curved as the TEs, which causes the perspective of the eyes to look different.

 

[UKscout]

Hi Mark

The VT inside the helmet is by a guy called Vacuum_dis on fleabay or Vacuum This on photobucket

He has a helmet and set of armour on there right now and also a photobucket page full of pics of the helmet and armour.

I'll dig out the link when i get home after work.

but what ever happend to the Meatstock helmets? could this be the same guy?

 

[TKDUEUNO]

TM is not a recast IMHO, just use your eyes.
That particular bump is lower on TM's faceplate.

Personally I'm really tired of this bull$#it, if you don't have objective proof just shut up.

This is getting every day closer to a religious debate, everybody claims his belief is the best, but no proofs whatsoever.
It's just ridiculous and divides people beyond reason capabilities. Fondamentalism is the worst thing.
Gino, you keep saying we must "believe", people don't "believe", you should "believe"...
This is not a religion, even if you always behave like a priest, this is a matter of reality.
It IS a recast or it ISN'T. If you can't prove your statement with scientific method, your's just a negative opinion.
And why underestimate the artist capabilities? There are painting copiers so good that can fool the original painter himself.

Just stop throwing rocks, especially to people whom passion and dedication has really contributed to this geeky hobby.

 

[TK1536]

but what ever happend to the Meatstock helmets? could this be the same guy?

Haven't heard that in a long time. Meatsock was just a short-lived TE recast back around 2005 or so. Nowadays, it seems there's at least a half-dozen TE recasts out there.

 

[Madmartigan]

Saw one of those on TheBay recently. Was wondering what its origins were....

Haven't heard that in a long time. Meatsock was just a short-lived TE recast back around 2005 or so. Nowadays, it seems there's at least a half-dozen TE recasts out there.

 

[GINO]

TM is not a recast IMHO, just use your eyes.
That particular bump is lower on TM's faceplate.

Personally I'm really tired of this bull$#it, if you don't have objective proof just shut up.

This is getting every day closer to a religious debate, everybody claims his belief is the best, but no proofs whatsoever.
It's just ridiculous and divides people beyond reason capabilities. Fondamentalism is the worst thing.
Gino, you keep saying we must "believe", people don't "believe", you should "believe"...
This is not a religion, even if you always behave like a priest, this is a matter of reality.
It IS a recast or it ISN'T. If you can't prove your statement with scientific method, your's just a negative opinion.
And why underestimate the artist capabilities? There are painting copiers so good that can fool the original painter himself.

Just stop throwing rocks, especially to people whom passion and dedication has really contributed to this geeky hobby.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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[ItsThatGuy]

After reading this whole thread yesterday, I had a dream I was talking to GINO (I think on the phone) and standing over all my buckets looking down on the birds-eye-view of the faceplates! :lol

....ok as you were.

Hey, GINO, I think you owe me one of your Hero Stormtrooper buckets...Search your feelings, you know it to be true... :lol


:angel

 

[The Manlet]

TE wasn't listed because there are no TE helmets being made anymore. They are TE2. I suppose if you wanted to list previous helmet sources, then yes you would include TE.

TE Is still offering helmets & armor... He even had a web site showing off his new ROTJ helmets.

 

[TKDUEUNO]

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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I know there is good in you. The Emperor hasn't driven it from you fully. That is why you couldn't destroy me.

I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate.

 

[GINO]

I can't abide those recasters. Disgusting creatures.

 

[TKDUEUNO]

It's no surprise why you chose that name for your site...

'Propaganda: the dissemination of information aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the cognitive narrative of the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.

—Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell, Propaganda and Persuasion

 

[GINO]

... or it could just be because it sounds cool.

Regarding your pic, I guess that makes you one of us then.

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