DARTH SABER
Master Member
******BUYER BEWARE - JBOT DECALS*********
I usually dont post stuff like this but it makes it kind of hard when I get a response like -
****"You can try to dispute it in Paypal, but theres nothing to dispute: I am ahead of schedule, you are getting exactly what you asked for. So back off buddy, you will lose this one"***
So a few weeks ago I posted a thread on Starship Modeller looking for someone to make 1/24 scale Red 5 X wing decals.
Jim, from JBOT Decals, was one of the first to respond and offered his services.
I asked him a few questions about the quality of his decals and he sent me a FAQ list from his JBOT website.
While on the website I was trying to access the shopping cart but couldnt. I contacted Jim and told him the issue.
He sent me back two emails browbeating me for mistakenly trying to order from his shopping cart which was deactivated.
I felt that was a bit aggressive, but it didnt bother me that much so I let it go.
He then requested that I give him a detailed description of what I wanted.
I requested decals for a 1/24 scale Red 5 (Lukes) X-wing. I specifically stated that I didnt want the fuselage stripes or the wing pattern stripes, all I needed were the smaller detailed stuff like the helmet markings, dashboard details and any small caution arrows or logos found on the red 5.
I then sent him payment via paypal and he informed me that the turnaround time would be roughly 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 weeks.
he said 2 1/2 weeks to do the work and about 1-3 weeks for Canadian mail to ship it to me.
I had no problems with that, so I agreed.
Two weeks had gone by so I decided contact him and see if he had a better estimate of the turnaround time.
He informed me that he was having computer issues and that an extra 3 weeks would need to be added on.
so, on top of his original 2 1/2 worth of work, he now had 5 1/2 weeks worth of work, and then theres the 1-3 weeks for Canadian postal to deliver.
unfortunately I had plans for my X wing before that. I was ok with the 5 1/2 weeks but 8 weeks was cutting it short.
I brought this issue to his attention and then he responds my BLAMING ME for "bad timing on my part" and that I should "do what you want" .. WTF ??
He told me 5 1/2 weeks and now it was 8 weeks, so how is that a fault of my timing??
Its not my fault he had computer issues or took on too many projects that he couldnt keep up with.
Anyhow, I told him I was going to have to cancel my order and ask for a refund.
He responds and asks If he wants me to push me ahead of someone else and asked if I think thats fair.
Then all of a sudden, he sends me a picture on my decals already "finished" and the envelope ready to mail out.
So after telling me that he needs 3 more weeks to get my decals out he magically gets them finished and ready to ship out within minutes after I told him I wanted a refund??!!
So I looked at the photo of the decals and noticed that he he doesnt have Luke's RED 5 helmet included with the decals.
Hes got everything else (including other helmets and some other stuff I didnt need) but not the markings of helmet specifically asked for.
The decals included a couple of red Rebel Insignias I could have used for Lukes helmet, but the the other details were not included. The red/yellow line combo running down th fin of his helmet were not there. the chevrons on top of the yellow and red circles were were missing the yellow and black circles. the yellow hazard strip with the digonal lines on the front of Lukes helmet were missing, and the arrow head shaped stripes with the circle that are on the earpads were missing.
I brought this to his attention and even provided him a couple of reference photos of the markings on Lukes helmet.
he responded and said "I am not copying someone elses interpretation of the helmet markings". ???!!
I sent him a reference image of the original helmet on Mark Hammills head, how is that "someone else interpretation"??!!
its the ORIGINAL interpretation!
So, he couldnt tell me this before I placed the order??!
Then he tells me to just draw the missing parts myself or to use another helmet on his decal sheet.
I didn ask for another helmet and if I could draw those tiny logos myself I wouldnt have asked for his decal services.
So then he tells me to "go buy a helmet and shrink ray machine, my decals are what you get, period!"
I said fine and told him to refund my money on paypal.
he then refused and said -
*******
"Nope. You paid for my decals. My art. ART. It is already printed. And ready to mail. As I have proved to you.
You did not pay me to draw helmet art “as you see it” or as you interpret it. You did not pay me to make a helmet for you. That is for you, the modeler, to do.
I jumped the queue for you.
You can try to dispute it in PayPal, but there is nothing to dispute:
I am ahead of schedule.
You are getting exactly what you asked for.
So back off, buddy. You will lose this one.
Jimbo"
********
I would urge everyone to take caution with this seller.
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I usually dont post stuff like this but it makes it kind of hard when I get a response like -
****"You can try to dispute it in Paypal, but theres nothing to dispute: I am ahead of schedule, you are getting exactly what you asked for. So back off buddy, you will lose this one"***
So a few weeks ago I posted a thread on Starship Modeller looking for someone to make 1/24 scale Red 5 X wing decals.
Jim, from JBOT Decals, was one of the first to respond and offered his services.
I asked him a few questions about the quality of his decals and he sent me a FAQ list from his JBOT website.
While on the website I was trying to access the shopping cart but couldnt. I contacted Jim and told him the issue.
He sent me back two emails browbeating me for mistakenly trying to order from his shopping cart which was deactivated.
I felt that was a bit aggressive, but it didnt bother me that much so I let it go.
He then requested that I give him a detailed description of what I wanted.
I requested decals for a 1/24 scale Red 5 (Lukes) X-wing. I specifically stated that I didnt want the fuselage stripes or the wing pattern stripes, all I needed were the smaller detailed stuff like the helmet markings, dashboard details and any small caution arrows or logos found on the red 5.
I then sent him payment via paypal and he informed me that the turnaround time would be roughly 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 weeks.
he said 2 1/2 weeks to do the work and about 1-3 weeks for Canadian mail to ship it to me.
I had no problems with that, so I agreed.
Two weeks had gone by so I decided contact him and see if he had a better estimate of the turnaround time.
He informed me that he was having computer issues and that an extra 3 weeks would need to be added on.
so, on top of his original 2 1/2 worth of work, he now had 5 1/2 weeks worth of work, and then theres the 1-3 weeks for Canadian postal to deliver.
unfortunately I had plans for my X wing before that. I was ok with the 5 1/2 weeks but 8 weeks was cutting it short.
I brought this issue to his attention and then he responds my BLAMING ME for "bad timing on my part" and that I should "do what you want" .. WTF ??
He told me 5 1/2 weeks and now it was 8 weeks, so how is that a fault of my timing??
Its not my fault he had computer issues or took on too many projects that he couldnt keep up with.
Anyhow, I told him I was going to have to cancel my order and ask for a refund.
He responds and asks If he wants me to push me ahead of someone else and asked if I think thats fair.
Then all of a sudden, he sends me a picture on my decals already "finished" and the envelope ready to mail out.
So after telling me that he needs 3 more weeks to get my decals out he magically gets them finished and ready to ship out within minutes after I told him I wanted a refund??!!
So I looked at the photo of the decals and noticed that he he doesnt have Luke's RED 5 helmet included with the decals.
Hes got everything else (including other helmets and some other stuff I didnt need) but not the markings of helmet specifically asked for.
The decals included a couple of red Rebel Insignias I could have used for Lukes helmet, but the the other details were not included. The red/yellow line combo running down th fin of his helmet were not there. the chevrons on top of the yellow and red circles were were missing the yellow and black circles. the yellow hazard strip with the digonal lines on the front of Lukes helmet were missing, and the arrow head shaped stripes with the circle that are on the earpads were missing.
I brought this to his attention and even provided him a couple of reference photos of the markings on Lukes helmet.
he responded and said "I am not copying someone elses interpretation of the helmet markings". ???!!
I sent him a reference image of the original helmet on Mark Hammills head, how is that "someone else interpretation"??!!
its the ORIGINAL interpretation!
So, he couldnt tell me this before I placed the order??!
Then he tells me to just draw the missing parts myself or to use another helmet on his decal sheet.
I didn ask for another helmet and if I could draw those tiny logos myself I wouldnt have asked for his decal services.
So then he tells me to "go buy a helmet and shrink ray machine, my decals are what you get, period!"
I said fine and told him to refund my money on paypal.
he then refused and said -
*******
"Nope. You paid for my decals. My art. ART. It is already printed. And ready to mail. As I have proved to you.
You did not pay me to draw helmet art “as you see it” or as you interpret it. You did not pay me to make a helmet for you. That is for you, the modeler, to do.
I jumped the queue for you.
You can try to dispute it in PayPal, but there is nothing to dispute:
I am ahead of schedule.
You are getting exactly what you asked for.
So back off, buddy. You will lose this one.
Jimbo"
********
I would urge everyone to take caution with this seller.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
