BTTF - How did Marty and Doc first meet?

As long as I am on a BTTF thought, here is one for BTTF III: The whole plot of BTTF III revolves around the fact that they are out of gasoline, and have to use a train to get the car up to 88 mph.


In 1885, gasoline is a waste product of Kerosene production, and it was disposed of as a "useless." Doc, the scientist who can invent time machines and mind reading machines, but can't distill a little Kerosene (something available in every town in America)
 
clonesix said:
As long as I am on a BTTF thought, here is one for BTTF III: The whole plot of BTTF III revolves around the fact that they are out of gasoline, and have to use a train to get the car up to 88 mph.


In 1885, gasoline is a waste product of Kerosene production, and it was disposed of as a "useless." Doc, the scientist who can invent time machines and mind reading machines, but can't distill a little Kerosene (something available in every town in America)
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But Doc would need to first seek out crude oil. You need to distill the crude oil, which will ultimately separate the components to give you Kerosene and petroleum. Then there are a series of refining processes he would have to go through to get the petroleum prepared.

And I suspect that time was a factor. He didn't have but three or four days before Mad Dog was going to kill him.
So I believe the short time schedule forced them to find a quick solution.
I mean, if time wasn't a factor... Sure Doc could have distilled his own oil :lol
But he could have also found gas. After all, in 1885 the first gas engine was invented, so gas was produced some where.
(In April 1885, Gottlieb Daimler patented what is generally recognized as the prototype of the modern gas engine).
It would have just taken time to locate a manufacturer and aquire some. But as I said... Time didn't allow for any of that.

Besides... Was it possible to go buy refined kerosene and reverse the process?
Can you take store bought kerosene and distill that, and separate petroleum from it?
I didn't think you can reverse engineer that. I thought once the crude oil separated the two, that possibility was over.

This would be interesting to research a bit more :lol
 
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clonesix said:
As long as I am on a BTTF thought, here is one for BTTF III: The whole plot of BTTF III revolves around the fact that they are out of gasoline, and have to use a train to get the car up to 88 mph.


In 1885, gasoline is a waste product of Kerosene production, and it was disposed of as a "useless." Doc, the scientist who can invent time machines and mind reading machines, but can't distill a little Kerosene (something available in every town in America)
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I think in Doc's haste he tried what he had available, and after blowing out the fuel injection manifold his options were considerably limited.
 
What I like about the first film is that it isn't an origin story. It seems like a chapter in probably a whole series of adventures that Doc and Marty had. Really, it's sort of the beginning of the end of their adventures, as far as the audience knows. I like films that come into a world already crafted, as opposed to constantly trying to reinvent the wheel, or retell an origin story. Films like 'Man of Steel' and 'The Amazing Spiderman' tend to fall short for me because of that. We know the essence of what's being done because it's been done. If the characters are good, it's healthy to develop them.

Doc worked in secrecy on the flux capacitor and all it entailed, but he probably kept rather busy over those 30 years. I suspect he and Marty had lots of other adventures. Principal Strickland certainly knew about their relationship, and Jennifer seemed comfortable enough around Doc that she must have known him. There's probably some room in the world for some good fan fiction or graphic novels. Non-time travel adventures of Doc and Marty. Stuff that playfully hints of what's to come in Hill Valley. But anyways... that's what I enjoy most about BTTF, how established the relationships are right from the start. It could almost be a sequel to something in itself.
 
Future Boy said:
I think in Doc's haste he tried what he had available, and after blowing out the fuel injection manifold his options were considerably limited.
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I had forgotten about blowing the mainfold.

No, I dont think that you can refine gas from kerosene. My beliefe is there was gas available, and for free. Admittedly, it was somewhere around Ohio or Pensylvania ( if I remember from history channel) but It existed.


In the end: its a movie, not a historical document, and time travel is impossible. Therfore it is impossible to make sense of it. There! I said ( typed) it
 
But if Marty knew the Doc and the Doc had been working on the flux capaciter since 1955, wouldn't Marty have known about it?
 
Here's what I'd like to know... at the end of part 2, Doc is 40 feet in the air when struck by lightning, the Delorean spins a backflip and gets forced back in time... How does it land? The hover conversion is toast, but the axles are horizontal when flying, does that mean he landed with them horizontal? It would make a cool deleted scene seeing Doc end up in The Old West, sorta like Yoda's scene when he first arrives at Dagobah lol
 
What I read online…
Vivek said:
And here is the official answer given by Bob Gale back in 2011.

"Okay, from the horse’s mouth (yes, I’m the horse — er, co-writer, co-creator): We never explained it in the movie. But the history of the characters that Bob Zemeckis and I created is this…

For years, Marty was told that Doc Brown was dangerous, a crackpot, a lunatic. So, being a red-blooded American teenage boy, age 13 or 14, he decided to find out just why this guy was so dangerous. Marty snuck into Doc’s lab, and was fascinated by all the cool stuff that was there. when Doc found him there, he was delighted to find that Marty thought he was cool and accepted him for what he was. Both of them were the black sheep in their respective environments. Doc gave Marty a part-time job to help with experiments, tend to the lab, tend to the dog, etc.

And that’s the origin of their relationship.
— Bob Gale "
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I'm a bit disappointed of you that you haven't stumbled over this. Tsk, tsk, tsk! ;) :lol
EmmaInCandyland said:
Thanks :p That's good to know! I was expecting some imaginations of you guys that's why xD
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Not really. Kerosin has a very destinct destillation temperature and hydrocarbon composition of C8-13 chains, while gasoline has over 100 different aliphatic and aromatic parts, their destillation temperature range is between petroleum and kerosine.
clonesix said:
I had forgotten about blowing the mainfold.

No, I dont think that you can refine gas from kerosene. My beliefe is there was gas available, and for free. Admittedly, it was somewhere around Ohio or Pensylvania ( if I remember from history channel) but It existed.


In the end: its a movie, not a historical document, and time travel is impossible. Therfore it is impossible to make sense of it. There! I said ( typed) it
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YenChih Lin said:
Not really. Kerosin has a very destinct destillation temperature and hydrocarbon composition of C8-13 chains, while gasoline has over 100 different aliphatic and aromatic parts, their destillation temperature range is between petroleum and kerosine.
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Plus it's major process to go from crude oil to anything else. And just because i'm a nerd the first oil was in Drake's Well up in Titusville by Franklin PA about an hour north of here. There's even a vincent price movie about Drake.
 
JLeezy23 said:
Here's what I'd like to know... at the end of part 2, Doc is 40 feet in the air when struck by lightning, the Delorean spins a backflip and gets forced back in time... How does it land? The hover conversion is toast, but the axles are horizontal when flying, does that mean he landed with them horizontal? It would make a cool deleted scene seeing Doc end up in The Old West, sorta like Yoda's scene when he first arrives at Dagobah lol
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I actually would have loved to see this, I bet the Delorean crashed miserably xD
 
JLeezy23 said:
... How does it land? The hover conversion is toast, but the axles are horizontal when flying, does that mean he landed with them horizontal? ...
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If those hover machines would actually exist and I was the producer, I would build in some kind of emergency landing system, which turns the wheels to their normal position and brings the car gently back to the ground.
 
I always wondered, if the parents changed, time couldn't be possible, because Marty has to remember all the things that happened in his past from his "new" parents but he still remembers the old one, he could have been a different person and I had a theory that he went into another universe, this is technically an alternate timeline, correct me if I'm wrong, anyway it's nice to hear on the original story
 
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