LZeitgeist
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Seems more or less right on the mark to me...
Seems more or less right on the mark to me...
Braveheart sword
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JunkSabers1138
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JunkSabers1138
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Okay, having now bought the DVD instead of renting it and never having time to watch it, I now have some new understanding of this sword's details. You are free to correct me on anything I get wrong. This is just what I see when I watch the film.
Pommel:
1. Main hero sword has that nut and washer assembly at the end. Not seen on most replicas, even the DT.
2. Seems to have a flat finish rather than the SHINY plated look on most replicas.
3. Shape and notches differ from most replicas.
4. UPDATE. Some of the stunt swords and at least one of the hero swords lack the nut and washer assembly (Most clearly seen in the second battle when Mel sticks it in the ground before he orders the archers to shoot the flaming arrows)
Handgrip:
1. Is a little shorter than most replicas.
2. Has a baseball bat's upper portion shape rather than a thin skinny rod shape apparent in most replicas.
3. Leather is dark brown and is smooth side out (Sorry for assuming fuzzy side out ONLY all this time. But I swear I've seen an official BH sword with fuzzy leather.).
4. Handgrip is rounded/oval shaped in some models and on others it is rounded on the sides and flat on the front and back.
5. Has ONLY the two front grip rings on all screen used models, and the rings are thinner than most replicas.
Crossguard:
1. Width varies between different props, but averages a little wider than most replicas.
2. Stunt swords have wider crossguards for safety reasons.
3. Like the pommel, it has a flat finish look and is NOT plated.
4. Is relatively square shaped with two little notches on each end, unlike most replicas that sport either the round ball shape tips or the clover shaped tips like other claymores.
Ricasso:
1. Length varies between props but averages MUCH shorter than most replicas. The shortest ricasso sword is featured most (most prominently at the end when it is in the dirt after Hammish throws it. My favorite music in the film BTW.) and is the choice length for the DT.
2. The ricasso is usually shorter than the handgrip in the film, not longer like on most cheapos.
3. Like the handgrip, the leather is dark and smooth.
4. Stunt swords have the longest ricassos for ease of handling in the fight sequences.
5. Grip ring varies in thickness between variations but seems to be thicker than the handgrip rings and seems flat, not rounded like most replicas.
6. Doesn't seem to be attatched really well (As seen in one of the battles in that eyesore of a shot. How is this thing attatched to the sword in the first place?)
Blade:
1. Varies in length throughout the film, but is mostly shown as VERY LONG (60"+ like LZ's sword and the A&A replica).
2. Has either an entirely flat cross section or a flatened diamond cross section depending on the variation. Most replicas choose the diamond shape but inaccurately show it off more prominently.
3. Stunt swords have shorter blades for easier handling in the fight scenes.
4. The shorter blade, long ricasso look for the stunt swords may have been the inspiration for the cheapos on eBay and other sites.
That's all I have to say about that. Feel free to correct me with reasonable evidence if I'm wrong.
Pommel:
1. Main hero sword has that nut and washer assembly at the end. Not seen on most replicas, even the DT.
2. Seems to have a flat finish rather than the SHINY plated look on most replicas.
3. Shape and notches differ from most replicas.
4. UPDATE. Some of the stunt swords and at least one of the hero swords lack the nut and washer assembly (Most clearly seen in the second battle when Mel sticks it in the ground before he orders the archers to shoot the flaming arrows)
Handgrip:
1. Is a little shorter than most replicas.
2. Has a baseball bat's upper portion shape rather than a thin skinny rod shape apparent in most replicas.
3. Leather is dark brown and is smooth side out (Sorry for assuming fuzzy side out ONLY all this time. But I swear I've seen an official BH sword with fuzzy leather.).
4. Handgrip is rounded/oval shaped in some models and on others it is rounded on the sides and flat on the front and back.
5. Has ONLY the two front grip rings on all screen used models, and the rings are thinner than most replicas.
Crossguard:
1. Width varies between different props, but averages a little wider than most replicas.
2. Stunt swords have wider crossguards for safety reasons.
3. Like the pommel, it has a flat finish look and is NOT plated.
4. Is relatively square shaped with two little notches on each end, unlike most replicas that sport either the round ball shape tips or the clover shaped tips like other claymores.
Ricasso:
1. Length varies between props but averages MUCH shorter than most replicas. The shortest ricasso sword is featured most (most prominently at the end when it is in the dirt after Hammish throws it. My favorite music in the film BTW.) and is the choice length for the DT.
2. The ricasso is usually shorter than the handgrip in the film, not longer like on most cheapos.
3. Like the handgrip, the leather is dark and smooth.
4. Stunt swords have the longest ricassos for ease of handling in the fight sequences.
5. Grip ring varies in thickness between variations but seems to be thicker than the handgrip rings and seems flat, not rounded like most replicas.
6. Doesn't seem to be attatched really well (As seen in one of the battles in that eyesore of a shot. How is this thing attatched to the sword in the first place?)
Blade:
1. Varies in length throughout the film, but is mostly shown as VERY LONG (60"+ like LZ's sword and the A&A replica).
2. Has either an entirely flat cross section or a flatened diamond cross section depending on the variation. Most replicas choose the diamond shape but inaccurately show it off more prominently.
3. Stunt swords have shorter blades for easier handling in the fight scenes.
4. The shorter blade, long ricasso look for the stunt swords may have been the inspiration for the cheapos on eBay and other sites.
That's all I have to say about that. Feel free to correct me with reasonable evidence if I'm wrong.
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JunkSabers1138
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Okay, having now bought the DVD instead of renting it and never having time to watch it, I now have some new understanding of this sword's details. You are free to correct me on anything I get wrong. This is just what I see when I watch the film.
Pommel:
1. Main hero sword has that nut and washer assembly at the end. Not seen on most replicas, even the DT.
2. Seems to have a flat finish rather than the SHINY plated look on most replicas.
3. Shape and notches differ from most replicas.
4. Some of the stunt swords and at least one of the hero swords lack the nut and washer assembly (Most clearly seen in the second battle when Mel sticks it in the ground before he orders the archers to shoot the flaming arrows)
Handgrip:
1. Is a little shorter than most replicas.
2. Has a baseball bat's upper portion shape rather than a thin skinny rod shape apparent in most replicas.
3. Leather is dark brown and is smooth side out (Sorry for assuming fuzzy side out ONLY all this time. But I swear I've seen an official BH sword with fuzzy leather.).
4. Handgrip is rounded/oval shaped in some models and on others it is rounded on the sides and flat on the front and back.
5. Has ONLY the two front grip rings on all screen used models, and the rings are thinner than most replicas.
Crossguard:
1. Width varies between different props, but averages a little wider than most replicas.
2. Stunt swords have wider crossguards for safety reasons.
3. Like the pommel, it has a flat finish look and is NOT plated.
4. Is relatively square shaped with two little notches at each end, unlike most replicas that sport either the round ball shape tips or the clover shaped tips like other claymores.
UPDATE. 5. Crossgaurd tips seem to be a LITTLE bit thicker than the rest of the crossgaurd. Some swinging shots create the illusion of the clover tips seen in the Marto version and other cheapos.
Ricasso:
1. Length varies between props but averages MUCH shorter than most replicas. The shortest ricasso sword is featured most (most prominently at the end when it is in the dirt after Hammish throws it. My favorite music in the film BTW.) and is the choice length for the DT.
2. The ricasso is usually shorter than the handgrip in the film, not longer like on most cheapos.
3. Like the handgrip, the leather is dark and smooth.
4. Stunt swords have the longest ricassos for ease of handling in the fight sequences.
5. Grip ring varies in thickness between variations but seems to be thicker than the handgrip rings and seems flat, not rounded like most replicas.
6. Doesn't seem to be attatched really well (As seen in one of the battles in that eyesore of a shot. How is this thing attatched to the sword in the first place?)
Blade:
1. Varies in length throughout the film, but is mostly shown as VERY LONG (60"+ like LZ's sword and the A&A replica).
2. Has either an entirely flat cross section or a flatened diamond cross section depending on the variation. Most replicas choose the diamond shape but inaccurately show it off more prominently.
3. Stunt swords have shorter blades for easier handling in the fight scenes.
4. The shorter blade, long ricasso look for the stunt swords may have been the inspiration for the cheapos on eBay and other sites.
That's all I have to say about that. Feel free to correct me with reasonable evidence if I'm wrong.
Pommel:
1. Main hero sword has that nut and washer assembly at the end. Not seen on most replicas, even the DT.
2. Seems to have a flat finish rather than the SHINY plated look on most replicas.
3. Shape and notches differ from most replicas.
4. Some of the stunt swords and at least one of the hero swords lack the nut and washer assembly (Most clearly seen in the second battle when Mel sticks it in the ground before he orders the archers to shoot the flaming arrows)
Handgrip:
1. Is a little shorter than most replicas.
2. Has a baseball bat's upper portion shape rather than a thin skinny rod shape apparent in most replicas.
3. Leather is dark brown and is smooth side out (Sorry for assuming fuzzy side out ONLY all this time. But I swear I've seen an official BH sword with fuzzy leather.).
4. Handgrip is rounded/oval shaped in some models and on others it is rounded on the sides and flat on the front and back.
5. Has ONLY the two front grip rings on all screen used models, and the rings are thinner than most replicas.
Crossguard:
1. Width varies between different props, but averages a little wider than most replicas.
2. Stunt swords have wider crossguards for safety reasons.
3. Like the pommel, it has a flat finish look and is NOT plated.
4. Is relatively square shaped with two little notches at each end, unlike most replicas that sport either the round ball shape tips or the clover shaped tips like other claymores.
UPDATE. 5. Crossgaurd tips seem to be a LITTLE bit thicker than the rest of the crossgaurd. Some swinging shots create the illusion of the clover tips seen in the Marto version and other cheapos.
Ricasso:
1. Length varies between props but averages MUCH shorter than most replicas. The shortest ricasso sword is featured most (most prominently at the end when it is in the dirt after Hammish throws it. My favorite music in the film BTW.) and is the choice length for the DT.
2. The ricasso is usually shorter than the handgrip in the film, not longer like on most cheapos.
3. Like the handgrip, the leather is dark and smooth.
4. Stunt swords have the longest ricassos for ease of handling in the fight sequences.
5. Grip ring varies in thickness between variations but seems to be thicker than the handgrip rings and seems flat, not rounded like most replicas.
6. Doesn't seem to be attatched really well (As seen in one of the battles in that eyesore of a shot. How is this thing attatched to the sword in the first place?)
Blade:
1. Varies in length throughout the film, but is mostly shown as VERY LONG (60"+ like LZ's sword and the A&A replica).
2. Has either an entirely flat cross section or a flatened diamond cross section depending on the variation. Most replicas choose the diamond shape but inaccurately show it off more prominently.
3. Stunt swords have shorter blades for easier handling in the fight scenes.
4. The shorter blade, long ricasso look for the stunt swords may have been the inspiration for the cheapos on eBay and other sites.
That's all I have to say about that. Feel free to correct me with reasonable evidence if I'm wrong.
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JunkSabers1138
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Does anyone know what the inspiration for the design of this sword was? I know it wasn't the "real" Wallace sword. Is this sword the ONLY sword with a leather covered ricasso? Was that detail used before Braveheart? If not, why did Simon Atherton design a sword like that? Couldn't he just design it with a regular ricasso? Surely there has to be SOME type of sword that looks even REMOTELY close to this sword's design. Any info?
Thanks in advance.
BTW, LZ's pics of his collection have the Braveheart and the Highlander MacLeod swords sharing a similar pommel design. Was there any connection between the two films in terms of weaponry?
Thanks in advance.
BTW, LZ's pics of his collection have the Braveheart and the Highlander MacLeod swords sharing a similar pommel design. Was there any connection between the two films in terms of weaponry?
JunkSabers1138
Sr Member
BUMP. Well at least this thread and my wooden swords thread aren't as neglected as my Mouth of Sauron costume thread.
JunkSabers1138
Sr Member
Since all the replicas on eBay pretty much suck and have discouraged me from buying them entirely, I've now changed this thread into a "Movie and replica prop study thread".
Also, I would appreciate it if the questions I asked in post #45 could be answered by anyone who has any idea what the answers are.
Thanks in advance.
Seth
Also, I would appreciate it if the questions I asked in post #45 could be answered by anyone who has any idea what the answers are.
Thanks in advance.
Seth
noonch
New Member
Here are some old photos of my Braveheart sword. It's cross guard is a tad different than some of the others featured in this thread. I got it close to 8 years ago and it took months to find one online that even looked close to the poster version. Unfortuntely, I do not remember where I finally tracked it down.
JunkSabers1138
Sr Member
Cool display. I must say that your sword, while being unique with the black leather and having the stunt sword sized ricasso that even LOOKS like the movie stunt sword's (The movie mostly showed off the shorter ricasso hero sword more prominently. See my previous posts.), the hilt is in the typical, generic style seen on many replicas today.
One question though, how big is it? It looks larger than some ebay swords I've seen but you can always tell when you get a cheapo sword if the sword is smaller, or of lower quality than as it was described in the ebay auction (or anywhere for that matter). I had to learn this the hard way when I bought a LOTR Anduril sword that used pics of a really high quality custom made sword (looked almost as good as UC) and stated that it was 54" long in the auction. When I recieved it it was VERY low quality (It was just a crappily made Narsil with the symbols merely scratched in with a knife in the WRONG ORDER in a fuller that was smaller than in the pics and film) and under 50". Being a forgiving person, I gave the seller positive feedback anyway. To me, 52" (and sometimes less than that) is the average cheapo size for replica swords.
Some examples I've seen:
Narsil/Anduril:
Real: (as described in Weapons and Warfare and in books): 60".
Film: Some 60" and most others smaller; usually 54".
UC: 53".
Most other replicas (M.O.R.): 52" and under. Smallest was 33".
Rohan swords (Herugrim, Guthwine, and Eowyn):
Real: Between 36" and 42"
Film: Same as real.
UC: Same as real.
M.O.R.: Oversized at 52" apiece (I've seen auctions for these. Believe me.)
NOTE: Most LOTR sword replicas, while still lacking quality, match the UC size and sometimes the film size as well. But these examples are the ones that stick out like a sore hangnail IMO.
Braveheart sword:
Real (monument version): 66"
Film (Film version): 60" hero swords with smaller stunt swords, promo shoot swords, etc.
Del Tin: 54"
Marto and M.O.R.: 52" and under. Smallest was 30"
Flamberge:
Real: 72"
Major replicas: Accurate to real size.
M.O.R.: 52" and under. Smallest was 40". FEW sellers get these swords right and they are HARD to find, but they are out there.
Claymore:
Real: 56" and up.
Major Replicas: Accurate to real size.
M.O.R.: 52" and under. Smallest was 36"
There are many other sword dissapointments out there, but these were the ones that stuck out the most for me. Please note that the M.O.R. doesn't apply to ALL the replicas you'll find, just the majority that are found on ebay and most other sword stores out there.
One question though, how big is it? It looks larger than some ebay swords I've seen but you can always tell when you get a cheapo sword if the sword is smaller, or of lower quality than as it was described in the ebay auction (or anywhere for that matter). I had to learn this the hard way when I bought a LOTR Anduril sword that used pics of a really high quality custom made sword (looked almost as good as UC) and stated that it was 54" long in the auction. When I recieved it it was VERY low quality (It was just a crappily made Narsil with the symbols merely scratched in with a knife in the WRONG ORDER in a fuller that was smaller than in the pics and film) and under 50". Being a forgiving person, I gave the seller positive feedback anyway. To me, 52" (and sometimes less than that) is the average cheapo size for replica swords.
Some examples I've seen:
Narsil/Anduril:
Real: (as described in Weapons and Warfare and in books): 60".
Film: Some 60" and most others smaller; usually 54".
UC: 53".
Most other replicas (M.O.R.): 52" and under. Smallest was 33".
Rohan swords (Herugrim, Guthwine, and Eowyn):
Real: Between 36" and 42"
Film: Same as real.
UC: Same as real.
M.O.R.: Oversized at 52" apiece (I've seen auctions for these. Believe me.)
NOTE: Most LOTR sword replicas, while still lacking quality, match the UC size and sometimes the film size as well. But these examples are the ones that stick out like a sore hangnail IMO.
Braveheart sword:
Real (monument version): 66"
Film (Film version): 60" hero swords with smaller stunt swords, promo shoot swords, etc.
Del Tin: 54"
Marto and M.O.R.: 52" and under. Smallest was 30"
Flamberge:
Real: 72"
Major replicas: Accurate to real size.
M.O.R.: 52" and under. Smallest was 40". FEW sellers get these swords right and they are HARD to find, but they are out there.
Claymore:
Real: 56" and up.
Major Replicas: Accurate to real size.
M.O.R.: 52" and under. Smallest was 36"
There are many other sword dissapointments out there, but these were the ones that stuck out the most for me. Please note that the M.O.R. doesn't apply to ALL the replicas you'll find, just the majority that are found on ebay and most other sword stores out there.
I have a replica Braveheart aluminum sword which was made by the same person who was commissioned by Simon Atherton to produce the aluminum versions of the sword for the movie. As far as I remember, he did about 9 swords, all were individually handmade and differ in length and other details. Some were outfitted with blood letting tubes by the SPFX department. Most of the surviving swords were presented as gifts to the producers/co-producers.
Gibson donated a sword to an auction house, I told them that it was a replica and is has been removed from the auction.
There's a fun story about Gibson circulating, when they gave him the hero steel version of the sword for the first time, he swung it around and landed right on his butt. He then kindly asked for a lightweight aluminum version.
I'll see that I take some pics of my sword and post them here.
Gibson donated a sword to an auction house, I told them that it was a replica and is has been removed from the auction.
There's a fun story about Gibson circulating, when they gave him the hero steel version of the sword for the first time, he swung it around and landed right on his butt. He then kindly asked for a lightweight aluminum version.
I'll see that I take some pics of my sword and post them here.
JunkSabers1138
Sr Member
<div class='quotetop'>(vadermania @ Aug 2 2006, 04:41 AM) [snapback]1292318[/snapback]</div>
Please do . I just love to see any pics or vids of the real swords other than the film which I've seen 100 times by now :rolleyes .
Please do
. I just love to see any pics or vids of the real swords other than the film which I've seen 100 times by now :rolleyes .
JunkSabers1138
Sr Member
Okay, having now bought the DVD instead of renting it and never having time to watch it, I now have some new understanding of this sword's details. You are free to correct me on anything I get wrong. This is just what I see when I watch the film.
Pommel:
1. Main hero sword has that nut and washer assembly at the end. Not seen on most replicas, even the DT.
2. Seems to have a flat finish rather than the SHINY plated look on most replicas.
3. Shape and notches differ from most replicas.
4. Some of the stunt swords and at least one of the hero swords lack the nut and washer assembly (Most clearly seen in the second battle when Mel sticks it in the ground before he orders the archers to shoot the flaming arrows)
Handgrip:
1. Is a little shorter than most replicas.
2. Has a baseball bat's upper portion shape rather than a thin skinny rod shape apparent in most replicas.
3. Leather is dark brown and is smooth side out (Sorry for assuming fuzzy side out ONLY all this time. But I swear I've seen an official BH sword with fuzzy leather.).
4. Handgrip is rounded/oval shaped in some models and on others it is rounded on the sides and flat on the front and back.
5. Has ONLY the two front grip rings on all screen used models, and the rings are thinner than most replicas.
Crossguard:
1. Width varies between different props, but averages a little wider than most replicas.
2. Stunt swords have wider crossguards for safety reasons.
3. Like the pommel, it has a flat finish look and is NOT plated.
4. Is relatively square shaped with two little notches at each end, unlike most replicas that sport either the round ball shape tips or the clover shaped tips like other claymores.
5. Crossgaurd tips seem to be a LITTLE bit thicker than the rest of the crossgaurd. Some swinging shots create the illusion of the clover tips seen in the Marto version and other cheapos.
Ricasso:
1. Length varies between props but averages MUCH shorter than most replicas. The shortest ricasso sword is featured most (most prominently at the end when it is in the dirt after Hammish throws it. My favorite music in the film BTW.) and is the choice length for the DT.
2. The ricasso is usually shorter than the handgrip in the film, not longer like on most cheapos.
3. Like the handgrip, the leather is dark and smooth.
4. Stunt swords have the longest ricassos for ease of handling in the fight sequences.
5. Grip ring varies in thickness between variations but seems to be thicker than the handgrip rings and seems flat, not rounded like most replicas.
6. Doesn't seem to be attatched really well (As seen in one of the battles in that eyesore of a shot. How is this thing attatched to the sword in the first place?)
UPDATE. 7. The ricasso's grip ring also changes position between different versions. It can be anywhere from at the tip of the ricasso to at least 2" from the tip.
Blade:
1. Varies in length throughout the film, but is mostly shown as VERY LONG (60"+ like LZ's sword and the A&A replica).
2. Has either an entirely flat cross section or a flatened diamond cross section depending on the variation. Most replicas choose the diamond shape but inaccurately show it off more prominently.
3. Stunt swords have shorter blades for easier handling in the fight scenes.
4. The shorter blade, long ricasso look for the stunt swords may have been the inspiration for the cheapos on eBay and other sites.
That's all I have to say about that. Feel free to correct me with reasonable evidence if I'm wrong.
Does anyone know what the inspiration for the design of this sword was? I know it wasn't the "real" Wallace sword although the middle of the cross gaurd is the same shape on both swords. Is this sword the ONLY sword with a leather covered ricasso? Was that detail used before Braveheart? If not, why did Simon Atherton design a sword like that? Couldn't he just design it with a regular ricasso? Surely there has to be SOME type of sword that looks even REMOTELY close to this sword's design. Any info?
Thanks in advance.
BTW, LZ's pics of his collection have the Braveheart and the Highlander MacLeod swords sharing a similar pommel design. Was there any connection between the two films in terms of weaponry?
Pommel:
1. Main hero sword has that nut and washer assembly at the end. Not seen on most replicas, even the DT.
2. Seems to have a flat finish rather than the SHINY plated look on most replicas.
3. Shape and notches differ from most replicas.
4. Some of the stunt swords and at least one of the hero swords lack the nut and washer assembly (Most clearly seen in the second battle when Mel sticks it in the ground before he orders the archers to shoot the flaming arrows)
Handgrip:
1. Is a little shorter than most replicas.
2. Has a baseball bat's upper portion shape rather than a thin skinny rod shape apparent in most replicas.
3. Leather is dark brown and is smooth side out (Sorry for assuming fuzzy side out ONLY all this time. But I swear I've seen an official BH sword with fuzzy leather.).
4. Handgrip is rounded/oval shaped in some models and on others it is rounded on the sides and flat on the front and back.
5. Has ONLY the two front grip rings on all screen used models, and the rings are thinner than most replicas.
Crossguard:
1. Width varies between different props, but averages a little wider than most replicas.
2. Stunt swords have wider crossguards for safety reasons.
3. Like the pommel, it has a flat finish look and is NOT plated.
4. Is relatively square shaped with two little notches at each end, unlike most replicas that sport either the round ball shape tips or the clover shaped tips like other claymores.
5. Crossgaurd tips seem to be a LITTLE bit thicker than the rest of the crossgaurd. Some swinging shots create the illusion of the clover tips seen in the Marto version and other cheapos.
Ricasso:
1. Length varies between props but averages MUCH shorter than most replicas. The shortest ricasso sword is featured most (most prominently at the end when it is in the dirt after Hammish throws it. My favorite music in the film BTW.) and is the choice length for the DT.
2. The ricasso is usually shorter than the handgrip in the film, not longer like on most cheapos.
3. Like the handgrip, the leather is dark and smooth.
4. Stunt swords have the longest ricassos for ease of handling in the fight sequences.
5. Grip ring varies in thickness between variations but seems to be thicker than the handgrip rings and seems flat, not rounded like most replicas.
6. Doesn't seem to be attatched really well (As seen in one of the battles in that eyesore of a shot. How is this thing attatched to the sword in the first place?)
UPDATE. 7. The ricasso's grip ring also changes position between different versions. It can be anywhere from at the tip of the ricasso to at least 2" from the tip.
Blade:
1. Varies in length throughout the film, but is mostly shown as VERY LONG (60"+ like LZ's sword and the A&A replica).
2. Has either an entirely flat cross section or a flatened diamond cross section depending on the variation. Most replicas choose the diamond shape but inaccurately show it off more prominently.
3. Stunt swords have shorter blades for easier handling in the fight scenes.
4. The shorter blade, long ricasso look for the stunt swords may have been the inspiration for the cheapos on eBay and other sites.
That's all I have to say about that. Feel free to correct me with reasonable evidence if I'm wrong.
Does anyone know what the inspiration for the design of this sword was? I know it wasn't the "real" Wallace sword although the middle of the cross gaurd is the same shape on both swords. Is this sword the ONLY sword with a leather covered ricasso? Was that detail used before Braveheart? If not, why did Simon Atherton design a sword like that? Couldn't he just design it with a regular ricasso? Surely there has to be SOME type of sword that looks even REMOTELY close to this sword's design. Any info?
Thanks in advance.
BTW, LZ's pics of his collection have the Braveheart and the Highlander MacLeod swords sharing a similar pommel design. Was there any connection between the two films in terms of weaponry?
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