Blade Runner- A Web of Props (Original Pics updated)

Phil,
When you say "based on a real JW label" you mean a real prop label from the Blade Runner movie? Your basing your bottle and label from original source material, no guessing what something looks like, everything is being replicated from original source material right?
 
Item #3 in my previous post referred to an early attempt at recreating the label. The final label will be based on original source material.

I mentioned the previous work in the context of the overall job--to show the research that's been undertaken.

Phil
 
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A lot more work is still needed, as this is going to be a huge project (e.g. bottle creation in a 3D program, possible SLA output for prototype glass molding, packaging for shipping, etc.) I imagine that we'll sell hundreds (if not thousands) of these bottles worldwide.
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Phil, you mean a 3D model like this one:

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And that's without access to blueprints or the original, just eyeballed the screen caps below:

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Would be glad to help... SLA too!

- Gabe
 
Nick,

Thanks for the critique and the screen cap.
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I had trouble deciding on the length and girth of the neck because it appears squat and thick in some caps, long and narrow in others. Phil mentioned at one point that there were hero and stunt versions of the bottle made, so that might account for the discrepancy, or it could just be the way light and low magnification resolution distort the image, as they did with the famous shot glass, hindering efforts to ID it.

I'm sure whatever Phil has in mind will be the final word in accuracy, so I'm not worried.

Here's something for you, Nick - I don't know if it's deliberate on your part, but I noticed the "Y" in the little gray graphic on the bottom right hand side of Deckard's head shot is upside down...

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Also, I tend to believe that the white stripe below the "995" is solid from end to end, simply based on the way the red "X" distorts the "995" and "POLICE" graphics. Either that, or the stripe isn't a stripe, but a string of characters from end to end that we just can't make out, as I seem to notice breaks in the white outside the "X" on either side. Just a thought.
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- Gabe
 
I agree with your observations completely, Prop Runner.

Also here is page of JW reference.

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Can't wait for your project to happen Phil.

Nick
 
Just blue-skying here, but I cranked up the ol' screengrabbin' machine:

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And i was wondering how we KNOW that that diamond shaped thing is really some kind of design.

Could it be a number?

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- Karl
 
Also wondering if that gray symbol between the photo and the diamond thing (referred to previously as having a Y in it) might in fact be something like this

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... sort of like the Recycling symbol, or I think there's a book publisher that uses a symbol like it (New American Library perhaps?)...

Hmmmm....

- k
 
Or... OR...

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They have that typeface with the broken characters, sort of an Avant Garde variant.

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Actually, what looks like broken areas of the diamond appear to be solid orange lines victimized by the same distortion I pointed out on the white stripe caused by the red "X".

Wow... so many fresh, and seemingly accurate perspectives on an old favorite! I can picture the various eBay replica makers frantically editing their Illustrator files with each new post...
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Phil, any non-confirmation-confirmation of the above would be great!

- Gabe
 
Good point, the ID card IS under a clear plastic sheet, and the X runs thru one side of the diamond, the other could just be ripples in the plastic...

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Also here's a question for you experts: Deckard says at one point that he's "Deckard, Blade Runner, two sixty three fifty-four"...

So shouldn't the number 26354 or 260354 be on the card?

- k
 
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Also wondering if that gray symbol between the photo and the diamond thing (referred to previously as having a Y in it) might in fact be something like this

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... sort of like the Recycling symbol, or I think there's a book publisher that uses a symbol like it (New American Library perhaps?)...

Hmmmm....

- k
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Here's my pet theory, since the graphic is very familiar to me: with so many Japanese characters and cultural motifs everywhere in 2019 Los Angeles, I figured why not a variation on a "Ka-mon", or Japanese family crest:

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This particular crest is called a "KATABAMI," a plant with heart-shaped leaves. There are thousands of family crests which come from and classify into 7 groups: Plant, Animal, Nature, Architecture, Object, Design, and Letter. The most popular Japanese family crests consist of 10 typical types, nine of them are from the Plant category and the tenth is from the Animal category

Here's the very cool website where I found this info:

http://www.familyemblem.com/10.html

Anybody care to agree?
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- Gabe
 
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Prop Runner wrote:
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Hmmm... interesting theory, but those details are way below the limit of resolution of the screen shot, even if I squint at it.
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I suppose it's possible but it just doesn't "feel" right to me somehow. I tend to think the symbol must come to some kind of rounded point on top.

Good visual thinking tho.

I thought briefly it might be some City seal, or police department logo, (kind of like elements representing Chicago are on the "I Robot" badge), but I couldn't google anything conclusive.

I think the switch to establishing the story in Los Angeles came fairly late in preproduction... wasn't Blade Runner set in New York at some point?

-K
 
In the book, Bladerunner is set in San Francisco and Deckard is a bounty hunter attached to SFPD. They used alot of SF landmarks throughout the story...strangely in the book there is a competing bounty hunter who turns out to be a replicant who had the SFPD fooled, but he is eventually unmasked.
 
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How about this symbol:

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I still kind of doubt it.
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As to the city of Blade Runner, a quick google found this:

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http://home.mira.net/~satadaca/bladrunn.htm
 
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