Black Symbiote Spidey (First Suit, suggestions and critiques Welcome!)

SGT Tasty Wheat

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I've made a few homemade costumes in the past, some of them being Spider-man related, and I always loved playing with patterns in Photoshop. I would work on a pattern for a month or so then just leave it be in a file on my computer. As of late, with the help of Kenlandrum's free spidey pattern and another hero suit pattern I've had saved on my computer for years now, I decided to start a real suit build, and post my progress. Slow Progress. Very Slow Progress (I am a college student and find myself writing essays more often than on Photoshop).

I figured that the Secret Wars Spider-man Black suit is a good place to start because, well its basic enough for me to learn were everything goes.
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I won't be worried about where webbing lines meet up or if the seems are not matching up exactly, like I would have with a classic Red and Blue suit. But I want a little more excitement than just black and white, so I plan on adding a little flare to the pattern. Such as Lines on the Body to give the suit a more sleek and updated feel. I'm not sure I'll like how it comes out but hey, I have to learn some how! (Be sure to comment suggestions and opinions)


Like I said, I'm using a bit of a Pattern I already have and a bit of the Free ASM suit Pattern posted by Kenlandrum. If anyone is looking to make a suit, spider-man or whom-ever, I highly suggest playing around with this free Pattern. The location of the webbing and design gives you an idea of where a piece is sewn onto another. Without any further to do here we go. It is available here: http://www.therpf.com/f78/amazing-spider-man-2-3d-print-files-pattern-free-208912/


First thing is first. I started out with the ASM pattern and deleted layers of things I wouldn't be using. Such as the Finger Pads, spiders, and the brick pattern on the suit. I'll be replacing the brick pattern with my own, so it's not necessary to keep it.
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Next thing that I did was make merge down the blue and red layers and turn them into a black/grey color that I liked (I might change it later on to a different shade). Then I started to make a pattern out of circles that i wanted to cover the entire suit. Once i started to get comfortable i decided to start using the pen tool to make lines on the body suit. For now the lines are going to be just black but later I will add both a inner glow and outer shadow to make them look smoother. Then bring the opacity of that layer to around 40%-50%. Its not a exact science so I usually play around with it till I get exactly what I want.
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Here is a picture a bit closer, so you can really see the lines that accent the muscles.
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(Almost Looks like a Batman Suit!)

Like I said I did the lines with the pen tool. If you want to do something like this I recommend getting familiar with the pen tool, and only do ONE HALF of the suit. In this case I did the Left half of the suit with the pen tool. Then I copied what I had, pasted it onto the same layer and free transformed it in order to reverse the image and line it up correctly. Now Both sides match exactly and make things look clean.

I've changed my mind on the circle bricks that I put into the suit and Changed them to more of a octagon. I think it looks cleaner and better. More fitting for a Symbiote suit. (The Lines in this photo are hidden so you can see the pattern better)
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Here is the pattern with the lines:
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Next I made the lines a bit softer by adding a outer shadow and inner glow to the layers. Then i settled with 40% Opacity on the layer. Again, not an exact science, so I just played around with settings until things blended nicely. Tell me what you think. (You may have to click on the picture to really see the lines) Are the lines too dark? Too thick? Too Light? Should I go back to my day job?
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Personally I like them a lot better now than before. Next part I'd like to get to is the Chest and Back Spider. Now with the Comic Symbiote Suit, the Spider Wraps around the back and back to the front as one solid piece. I'm a bit worried on doing this and getting the legs of the spider to match up when transitions from front to back. Here is what I mean:

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Notice how the White Spider Wraps around Perfectly. I'm worried once I get the suit printed (that is seeing I like the results), that the legs of the spider won't match up and look all uneven. If anyone know any suggests other than trial and error feel free to tell me. Not to mention that the free ASM pattern doesn't seem to have very accented cut lines for when it is printed. Anybody know why and how i could change that?

Looks like I'll be busy tonight planning out a the Spider on the chest and the White Hand squares. Everyone please tell me what you think. I am still new to this and learning so let me know how its coming along. I like tips and even criticism (As long as you are not a JJ Jameson about it :lol ). If anyone has any questions let me know.


On a unrelated note i was also working on a "BAGMAN" costume for spidey (Fantastic Four) Just for fun!

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Please fell free to comment and ask questions. My plan is to update this thread when I can. Thank you Everyone for the help you have given me on this forum. Excelsior True Believers!
 
Thank you for the well-written and detailed explanation of your thought process. I am also planning on a symbiote spidey suit, so your thoughts are very valuable. Have you considered adding another color like dark purple or blue to help with the shading? What type of material will you be printing on?
 
Thank you for the well-written and detailed explanation of your thought process. I am also planning on a symbiote spidey suit, so your thoughts are very valuable. Have you considered adding another color like dark purple or blue to help with the shading? What type of material will you be printing on?

Glad you like it. If you start a build be sure to send me a link or PM me so I can see it. Also, I don't know as much as some other guys on here but if you have any questions feel free to ask.

I have considered adding the purple/blue highlights into the suit to give it that comic book highlighted look. (A great example being the picture I posted of the Secret Wars cover.) It is something i want to try out but the way this suit is going I'm not sure if it would fit in or not. We'll see I guess. If this suit ever does get to printing (meaning I'd have to get it very cleaned up and get in much better shape:facepalm) I plan on using Print on Demands website. Everyone here in the US seems to say good things about it and there are many printing threads here on TheRPF that talk about where and how to get your suit printed. Once I get to that step I'll be sure to let everyone know how I'm going about it.

I plan on posting the progress I made last night up here later today. I plan on doing some shaping of the octogon pattern to have it match better with the muscles on the suit. I'll be sure to explain how I do everything as I go for anyone out there who is as intimidated as I was when I first started.
 
Small update tonight guys. I know I said I'd make a more in depth post but things are getting a bit busy around the house (Plus I had to read up on the new issue of Spider-Man 2099!) and leaving little time for posting an explanation of my process, let alone get some things done in Photoshop. Here is what I have done tonight:

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I started out with my octagon pattern flat. My plans are to take the entire suit and do the morphed pattern you see on the raimi spider-man suit with the bricks. I don't have the mask, hands, and back done yet but i did get the arms, legs and main body done. Here are some picks, tell me what you think.
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Far from perfect, but enough to tell me that maybe by the end of this suit I'll know what I'm doing.

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looking good so far this is the suit I did a while backView attachment 363714


Randy Guhl I would love to know how the Spider turned out if you had it printed and sewn. Did the legs match up on the side seems? If there is a WIP or pics of the suit finished let me know, I'd love to take a look. It looks great!
 
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My legs didn't match up once sewn together and I had to get creative. Here's what I have.
That worked out pretty nice regardless (No one would notice that seem cause its under your arm I assume.). I jsut don't want mine to be WAY off and look sloppy. That suit looks great. very impressive.


More Pics to come of my progress soon. Been a crazy week and finally getting time to work on costumes.
 
A small update tonight.

I've been working on a Peter Parker Outfit for the next Con I go to (When I go to Cons I like to cosplay as something comfortable to walk around in.) I'm also kinda-sorta working on a "The Human Spider" Costume of Raimi's Spider-man (Toby Magiures's wrerstling attire in the First spider-man movie). That is why I'm not post as often as I'd like. I'm taking pictures as I go so once those builds are done I'll throw up the pictures. Anyway, the Symbiote build!

Before I got started I thought I'd do some reading for a little inspiration!
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I started by finishing off all of the brick pattern morphing. I did the arms, legs, back, chest ect ect till I finished the entire body. My computer can't handle Spherizing the muscle pattern when my document is this big so I'm constantly jumping between files to make sure I can get this done. Then I spent a while just organizing all of my layers. Merging some and fixing other so that I can navigate quickly once I move onto finishing touches somewhere down the road. This is what it looks like now.
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Then I started looking at different images of the Black Suit's Front Spider. I picked up things from a few that I liked and used the pen tool to make one half of the front spider. Then I copied it, flipped it horizontally and lined it up with the other side. This way everything is even.
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I have still yet to add the legs. I want to make sure that when this suit is sewn together it will at least be close to matching up. But its the only part of the suit I really have left with the exception of the cut lines. So looks like that'll be in my next post. I plan on adding a pattern overlay on the spider as well once I'm finished. We'll see!

This is my first build that I started and plan to finish, but even now at points I tell myself its no where near good enough to get printed. I plan on finishing this build no matter what, but as far as printing goes I don't know. I may just take what I learned from doing this and start all over in a new document and leave this one hidden away on a file.
 
After 6 hours of working with the front spider and lining up the legs right, my photoshop has crashed and I did not save since my last post. I'm now in the hole 6 hours and have nothing to show for it :thumbsdown Right when i got it perfect too.

Small Update:

Here is what I end with for tonight. The Rough Draft of my spider's legs. Now my main concern is making sure the back spider matches up with the one on the front. If anyone could give me any advice on how to make sure the Front Spider and back Spider are at least close to matching up I'd greatly appreciate it!!!

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