Black Series Darth Vader Helmet Mod Thread!

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by Jennigirl, Apr 13, 2018.

  1. Jennigirl

    Jennigirl Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Post your mods, and mod progress.
    Let's have some fun!
    Trimmed the brow of the dome, eventually I will add about an inch to the dome height, and a 1/4" lip on the interior like the originals, and 1" to the neck length.
    An accurate neck brace, and aluminum tusks.
    There is still much to be done.
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  2. Peacefrog35

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    That was fast!!!! What did you use to trim the dome? I get mine Sunday and just want to trim the widows peak back.
    I hope to paint the gun metal,but am afraid of not doing an adequate masking job on the upper part of the mask.
     
  3. Jennigirl

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    A combination of belt sander, wood carving knives, and sandpaper. I'm very resourceful.
     
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  4. neonhair

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    The indentation of the nose on the black series is black instead of silver like in the movie accurate helmets.
     
  5. Jennigirl

    Jennigirl Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I fixed it on mine with a silver sharpie.
     
  6. Synz314

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    I wonder if a tiny bit of Bondo or some putty is enough to fix the nose. It should be rounded on the inside, not angled flat. Then color is silver afterwards.
     
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  7. neonhair

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    I'm looking to replace the plastic grating underneath the mouth with actual metal grating. Anyone have any pointers on what to use?
     
  8. Jennigirl

    Jennigirl Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I think some sites sell metal grills, eBay is also an option.
     
  9. gcbike

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    You can take screws out of inside to get to the grill.4 around foam in the top,4 around eye rubber,1 above nose,2 each side of grill.whole middle piece lifts out
     
  10. d_jedi1

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    Not sure if it's the cheapest or most accurate route but it's certainly fast and readily available...
    I've always been partial to Vader grill by FRAM.
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  11. Pepperpete1

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    I'm a bit new to the costume game. Been in sabers forever. Can anyone tell me where I would go to find a voice changer that could be used with this? Also does anyone know if it's possible to have the breathing continue without having to press the button every 5 breaths? Thanks very much for the help! I know it may not be totally accurate but I love it so far.
     
  12. Jennigirl

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    While there isn't a perfect voice changer for Darth Vader, you can get a breathing device that sounds very nice.
     
  13. Kroenen77

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    If you want accurate Vadermesh Kurtyboy is the man to ask.;)
     
  14. Peacefrog35

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    2 tone paint scheme in the face plate. I will clean it up this weekend, but it added something for sure.
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  15. halliwax

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    What a difference with just the paint job... *


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  16. Peacefrog35

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    It did make a big difference in appearance. I did the lower jaw paint this morning between phone meetings. 0418181036.jpg 0418181036a.jpg
     
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  17. halliwax

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    What paint are you using and how are you applying it? Air brush?

    This really transforms the entire thing!!


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  18. Peacefrog35

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    I used duplicolor paint in a rattle can. I am not experienced with an air brush. The key was masking everything including the vents really well. I was happy with the paints on those so i masked them. This weekend, if im patient enough to wait, I will do some rub n buff on some of the interior parts...maybe put in some real wire. I also slightly sanded the dome where the widows peak would be. It looks really nice in person now even with the dome. It doesn't look nearly as off as it did before. Im loving it.
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  19. halliwax

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    This is nuts! Do you have the exact color paint you used? I can’t believe the difference


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  20. Peacefrog35

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    I will get that info for you later today. I used a gun metal and a metallic black to give it some depth.I didn't paint the dome, but polished it with Novus 1-2-3 and it really shined up. I can't believe this is the same helmet and mask. I've been having fun.
     
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  21. crashband

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    Did yours have the injection molding mark on the top of the dome?
     
  22. Peacefrog35

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    Yes as I imagine they all do. It just doesn't bother me and the intense shine I was able to bring up minimizes the obvious mark.
     
  23. Aclever

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    It looks so good! I just order mine and be here tomorrow, I may have to stop and pick up some paint.
     
  24. halliwax

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    Thank you very much! I appreciate it!


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  25. kevin926

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    Just ordered mine from target.com Used my redcard and saved 5% plus free shipping. Heads up for those looking.
     
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  26. Peacefrog35

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    Ok gang. The paint I used was duplicolor brand. I couldn't remember the exact color I used years ago when I did w classic action helmet soxi improvised. I first used the gunmetal. It looked s bit too silvery so I think went over it lightly with metallic black..again duplicolor brand. Then to give depth, another light mist of gunmetal. This got me the exact color I was after. I left the bla k sections bare and polished those areas by hand with novus. Im glad I didn't bother with black paint because it turned out great.
    I took some silver rub and buff to the pieces on top that were gold and needed to be silver and also did the drain piece in the middle.
    Sorry for so many pics today. Lol
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  27. jusdrewit

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    This might be the best BS Vader helmet lookswise I've seen yet. Awesome job
     
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  28. Peacefrog35

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    Thanks a lot! I have enjoyed seeing it come to life!
     
  29. Amish Trooper

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    Mine does
     
  30. mrwax

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    Dude, the more pics the better haha. Thanks for the details on your paint job!
     
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  31. kevin926

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    In comparison to film accurate pieces, how close are these black series Vaders ?
     
  32. teecrooz

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    Just the paint makes a huge difference!
     
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  33. gcbike

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    not even close
     
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  34. Peacefrog35

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    True but only to us prop nuts. Once its painted up" its a good low cost representation that captures most of the details. For $100, its a bargain imho.
     
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  35. Doh2

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    Stellar paint job, Peacefrog!
     
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  36. Kroenen77

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    Nothing has really the accurate size and shape.So if you want an accurate Revealhelmet this is nothing for you.
    But if you only want a helmet that "looks like" a reveal its ok.
     
  37. Kroenen77

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    The paint makes really a big difference.Good job.
    How big are the expanders(the small golden pieces on the face) and are they only glued on or part of the sculpt?
     
  38. Peacefrog35

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    Thanks for the compliments guys.
    I'm not sure of the exact size of the expanded. They are thicker than real ones for sure and atecpart of the sculpt. I'd imagine ifcthey weren't they might be a little too delicate ti stand up to repeated removal of the dome even though it doesn't really make contact if you are putting on correctly, but its not a big deal. This wasn't meant to be an exact replica and for what it is, its amazing.
    I used to have a 4 piece Portumac reveal and while it looked good, it wasn't really wearable because the mask and the lower jaw didn't fasten together, it just sat on top of it. It was display only and not much fun since it was so delicate. No comparison with w replica but that isn't the point anyway.
    I can at least mess with this one. I tested putting the dome on and off over and over and not so much as a paint chip occurred. The sounds are icing on the cake.
     
  39. vader45

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    The BS slightly resembles Vader, nothing more. Its nice for the price but does not capture the film look of Vader.
     
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  40. kevin926

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    I realize the appearance is different, however I was referring to the size and shapes, (eyes, nose, other details ). Will simple upgrades and paint additions bring this closer to screen accurate?
     
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  41. Peacefrog35

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    I would say it does. My paint job really brought this thing up a notch or two. To say it slightly resembles Vader is a bit harsh . Most people who aren't prop enthusiasts like us wouldn't see a difference. It's not accurate...no,but its * cool. I polished my dome this afternoon and it looks like black glass.
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  42. CSMacLaren

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    Could someone post a 6 foot distance pic that shows the neck length? Also the dome interior that shows how the dome attaches to the mask? Much appreciated!
     
  43. Peacefrog35

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    If no one else does i will try tonight. I wish I'd know when I took this pic of my dome after polishing. Zymol made it look like glass.

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  44. Tan Djarka

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    Hmm..? The dome is a little small, the neck is short, and the face may be a little wide. Apart form that, it is instantly identifiable as Darth Vader. Dark Helmet from Spaceballs slightly resembles Darth Vader.

    If you want the definitive Vader reveal, this is not the helmet you're looking for. Move along.

    It's a toy, and there are many considerations beyond pure accuracy... ventilation, electronic functions, and cost being among them. For a toy... A high end toy, but a toy nonetheless, it is a commendable effort, and I think most who purchase it will be perfect happy with it. Some will be even happier once they modify it.
     
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  45. Peacefrog35

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    Copper tubing and stainless braided material arrived to dress up the inside of the lower jaw. This is a very fun project.
     
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  46. Kroenen77

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    Closer yes.But if you paint a DP standard helmet with the correct gunmetal areas you are also a step forward to the original.This sounds a little bit hard but it shows how far away the design is from the Original.And its the same with this mask...you can upgrade it to a really good looking piece of art.I also wanna do it as a funproject.
    But it will never look really like the Original Reveal.If you want this,its easier to start from scratch or buying a kit with more accurate parts.
     
  47. Star Wars Helmets

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    First off let me say I applaud Hasbro for producing a low cost Vader helmet, and also those who have worked hard on them to further improve them. But as a bespoke sculpt/design, no matter what you do to it, it will always look like a comic-book style Vader - as opposed to a 'movie' Vader.

    Cheers

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  48. Kroenen77

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    Yes..."Comic book Vader" is the right word,Jez.
    The "Rebels Reveal"..yeah!:lol

    But I also know that the Rebels Vader looks complete different.;)
     
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  49. Jediblase1

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    Is anyone planning on modding the inside? I think that's where the real fun will be.
     
  50. Peacefrog35

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    I started modding inside the lower jaw this morning. I put in the copper tubes for " feeding tube" things or whatever they are. I ripped out the rubber tube out put in the copper and transplanted the silver tips. I will install the braided metal sheath stuff early in the week if I have time.
    Here's a pic during test fitting.
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