Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread

[eagle1]

According to my measurements the allu.tube is 20mm.as well.
This is without the styrene(0,5mm).
Why the styrene was added i do not know.
All i can think of and don't pin me on that is adhesion of the kit parts or fitting thightness of the tube itself.
Probably not the last since the tube is atached to the center box.
When and if every Tie- Bomber on the board is built with a 3/4 measurement it must be the correct measurement then.
If the difference is not noticable..well....it must be right than.
These builts demand a lot of research,Take a lot of time to built and swallow huge amounts of cash.
These facts turned me in a rivet counter and a millimeter man.:lol

You are right!
I should have entered this thread more humble.
Sorry for the thumbs down.
Lets start all over.
I am only talking millimeters here.
According to my meassurements the cockpit tube is 1mm.longer at the front.
The wing tube will be covered with styrene so therefore is fine.
Again sorry for my thumb down.
The starter kit is thumbsupand it is great that it is availlable for all of us.I wish i had this kit when i built my Tie-bomber.

I guess it must be my starter set you are referring to?.
My completed model & the starter set only came to fruition with the help & exhaustive research & hard work of many respected members before me!.
With regard to the 2 main body tubes being a different length, well, I don't feel they are, ref shows them being the same size, including the 'Chronicles'.
I don't know where you get the idea that the centre tube is wrapped in styrene, no ref shows this & what a major that would be!.
19.1 (3/4") is the accepted size & works perfectly with placement of all the kit parts.
Actually the centre tube on my build was 18.5mm & still worked out perfect.
If you go over 20mm you will have problems with kit parts fitting & the centre box will be that much more fragile.


Oh Al, you need 1 half of the Karl part to fit into the underside of the bombing chute/chamber thingy.
Stu

 

[Hammer3246]

Oh Al, you need 1 half of the Karl part to fit into the underside of the bombing chute/chamber thingy.
Stu

Hey Stu,

I sent him a PM I still have the half you sent me. I'm offering it to him plus some of the stuff I managed to cast.

Cheers

 

[MonsieurTox]

Yes A, there are 2 sprues in the hence 4 parts !

ref shows them being the same size, including the 'Chronicles'.
I don't know where you get the idea that the centre tube is wrapped in styrene, no ref shows this & what a major that would be!.
19.1 (3/4") is the accepted size & works perfectly with placement of all the kit parts.
Actually the centre tube on my build was 18.5mm & still worked out perfect.
If you go over 20mm you will have problems with kit parts fitting & the centre box will be that much more fragile.


Oh Al, you need 1 half of the Karl part to fit into the underside of the bombing chute/chamber thingy.
Stu

I too think both tube are the same size, or at least should be the same size, but since it was cut by hand, they're probably not exactly the same size, the ILM guys did what they could with what they had and like in most filming miniatures there are some flaws.

As for the tube wrapped with styrene, I'm not sure, you can see the aluminium where the paint didnt hit the tube, behind the Leo chassis parts on the original model. Do you have any pic of the tube wrapped with styrene ?

Stu, I had no problem fitting the parts on a 20 mm tube, (the radius difference of a 18.5 and 20 mm tube is insignificant) as for the center box, mine is hollow and made from 1 mm styrene, there is absolutely no contrainst on it, the wing tube gets it all (but let's be honest, this is one of the lightest prop ! ). I agree the right diameter seems to be 3/4" (it would makes sense) but it's hard to see the difference by eye ?

There're plenty of TIE Bombers done all over, none of them is perfect -nothing is- but all of them are beautiful ! Now the community has the chance to get a great starter kit (yes that's a chance because the Bomber is not so easy to do, and the starter kit really help, I wish it was available when I built mine I would have saved many hours cutting, drilling and scribing grooves on the tubes). And I'm glad BT is building another, that's a very nice choice for a first scratchbuilt/kibashed SS model !

Bonne chance mon ami !

 

[Bigturc]

Starter kit? What starter kit?

lol .. yeah, that's what pushed me into getting into this .. boy what did I get myself into!?!?

 

[MonsieurTox]

boy what did I get myself into!?!?

Keep this sentence for later... When you'll build a SS Super Star Destroyer in a year or two ! :lol

 

[Bigturc]

Julien bud, maybe you can confirm this. The 5 Leo needed, is this because you need 5 chassis (4 on the sides of the tube and 1 on the bottom of the middle box)?

I still can't find those Karl parts, for now, I'll shut up, order my Karl and find them when I get my kit! I think they must be missing from the scans on StudioScale.com!!!

I can't seem to be able to find the Stuka part (1 part, seriously!!), the Shinano or the Yamato .. if anyone has spares (actual) of any of those or perhaps cast, let me know!

 

[Bigturc]

Keep this sentence for later... When you'll build a SS Super Star Destroyer in a year or two ! :lol

LOLLL .. worst thing is .. I'd actually have the space!!!

 

[MonsieurTox]

Julien bud, maybe you can confirm this. The 5 Leo needed, is this because you need 5 chassis (4 on the sides of the tube and 1 on the bottom of the middle box)?

I still can't find those Karl parts, for now, I'll shut up, order my Karl and find them when I get my kit! I think they must be missing from the scans on StudioScale.com!!!

I can't seem to be able to find the Stuka part (1 part, seriously!!), the Shimano or the Yamato .. if anyone has spares (actual) of any of those or perhaps cast, let me know!

That's because they scan only one sprue when there are multiples.

 

[Bigturc]

Thanks to an awesome RPFer, all actual parts from the 2nd Saturn kit made it home today!

More actual, less resin! :thumbsup

 

[Bigturc]

Guys,
Got tipped from various people here and there for places to buy kits .. hopefully, it's ok and useful to post the info here. Since I'm in Canada, we don't have so many vendors having diversity at great shipping price. It's either in Canada with small/restricted inventory, or in the US with big shipping quotes!!

But here's some exceptions ...

#1 thumbsup:thumbsup OmniModels - FREE shipping and low prices on radio control (RC R/C) and general hobby products : 15$ flat shipping to Canada.
#2 Rollmodels.net Homepage : best price on kits but unfortunately, huge shipping price making it not worth it for us canucks.
#3 Huge Selection of Discounted Plastic Models, Balsa Airplane Model kits, Modeling - Home : good price, but again, huge shipping which removes all price advantage.

 

[Bigturc]

I'm updating the first post with what I still need to find, and what I already have! More to come soon ..

 

[ralphee]

Al, i think i can help with the M3 LEE, im pretty sure ive a second spare kit tucked away.
Let me check in the AM, and ill get back to you. Bit off on Bomber finds, buts its JUST the front fenders right?

lee

 

[Bigturc]

Al, i think i can help with the M3 LEE, im pretty sure ive a second spare kit tucked away.
Let me check in the AM, and ill get back to you. Bit off on Bomber finds, buts its JUST the front fenders right?

lee

Lee, of course I'm interested! I think you're right .. unless I got mixed up too, we need 2 parts from the M3. I'm sure someone will confirm!

 

[Bigturc]

While we're at it, I need a confirmation ..

1. Is the 20mm Flak38 MIT DS.AH.52 also valid (instead of the ds.ah.51)?

2. The 4 red lights behind the Bomber, I think I've read they were leds, are they the commonly known T1 3mm? Anything special about them before I just go and order them?

 

[Shadowknight]

While we're at it, I need a confirmation ..

1. Is the 20mm Flak38 MIT DS.AH.52 also valid (instead of the ds.ah.51)?

You will need the 52.

 

[zacic]

It has started .. went to my local hobby shop. Luckily for me, it's a canadian distributor opened to everyone .. :love!

I always find it pretty impressive when I go and their prices is not bad at all!

my god I envy you for having a place like this to go to

 

[Bigturc]

Hey Julien, your inbox is full .. can't send you a PM mate!

 

[Weezer]

It has started .. went to my local hobby shop. Luckily for me, it's a canadian distributor opened to everyone .. :love!

I always find it pretty impressive when I go and their prices is not bad at all!

Is this place in Ontario? Where in Canada is this place?

 

[Bigturc]

Yeah, in Montreal ..
Check post 10 for more info:
http://www.therpf.com/f10/bigturcs-tie-bomber-thread-104833/#post1508172

 

[MonsieurTox]

Hey Julien, your inbox is full .. can't send you a PM mate!

A, now you can ! But do it quickly because I havent done too much space lol My box could be full very soon ! :lol