vinylcapejawa
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Really amazing work. These pictures will help me with my own build. Very impressive.
Kevin
Kevin
Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread
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Bigturc
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Found some time to scribe the lines around the Harrier parts .. it's far from perfect .. but I'll do!
Here's how I did it. I cut some DYMO tape the width of my lines and glues them around the part. This way, I felt like it would stay at the right distance all around both Harrier parts.
Here's how I did it. I cut some DYMO tape the width of my lines and glues them around the part. This way, I felt like it would stay at the right distance all around both Harrier parts.
Bigturc
Sr Member
I've been studying the outer wing details .. mostly the tubes to figure out the proper size and the proposed Rodney:A6 parts .. but I can't come up to a conclusion on the size of them.
The more I look at the tube, the smaller they get .. so I'm at .035"/0.9mm right now. If I put them side by side to the Rodney part, even this small they seem on the big side.
The more I look at the tube, the smaller they get .. so I'm at .035"/0.9mm right now. If I put them side by side to the Rodney part, even this small they seem on the big side.
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Bigturc
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Jay,
I think that has to do with the fact that from my measurement, and working from not so good pictures so that might not be an exact science, the wing extensions were more like 8mm on the original vs 10mm on mine.
From what I see, the inner portion of the extension, below the rod, is a little smaller on the original than it is on mine so I think that's what you see in the pic, the Rodney:A6 part being a little less exposed .. if that makes any sense?!?
I think that has to do with the fact that from my measurement, and working from not so good pictures so that might not be an exact science, the wing extensions were more like 8mm on the original vs 10mm on mine.
From what I see, the inner portion of the extension, below the rod, is a little smaller on the original than it is on mine so I think that's what you see in the pic, the Rodney:A6 part being a little less exposed .. if that makes any sense?!?
Aurora
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.35 mm looks just a tad to big in my opinion compared to preposed Rodney:A6 part. It looks only just smaller then the diameter of the rode (going off the furthest rodney part in the picture)
I say the diameter closer to .2mm or .3mm only guess. i dont know how thick the rodney part is.
I say the diameter closer to .2mm or .3mm only guess. i dont know how thick the rodney part is.
Bigturc
Sr Member
I tend to agree .. and I had originally bought .060"/1.5mm for the rods!!
I'll take some comparison pics tonight for the size of the Rodney .. but I'd say it's definitely closer to .020"/0.5mm, maybe even less but I don't have a numeric measurement tool or whatever that's called!
I'll take some comparison pics tonight for the size of the Rodney .. but I'd say it's definitely closer to .020"/0.5mm, maybe even less but I don't have a numeric measurement tool or whatever that's called!
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joewhite
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Hmmm....:angry
I'm seeing what you are seeing now, Al. I'm now leaning more towards 8mm, myself (doh!) after playing with the ortho pic of the wing.
I still think that other greeblie is the B10...also from the Rodney...like I mentioned in marvin's thread. If so, I measure that part to be cut down to roughly 3mm. Cutting and pasting that section of the pic, I laid it over the A6 part. It looks like the A6 part is also modified down to about 3mm. Would you agree?
That leaves the solid tubing....maybe about 1mm??? And another 1mm left over.
Dammit.....what did you use to glue the extensions down?
BTW, tell me what you think about this. Speaking of the Rodney, I was going to use the A1 part pictured below for these short lengths of material on the forward and aft areas of the wing and possibly also the last vertical greeblie on the top, aft section of the wing right next to the "A6" part. They are about the same thickness as the A6 barrels. Just a thought.
Joe
I'm seeing what you are seeing now, Al. I'm now leaning more towards 8mm, myself (doh!) after playing with the ortho pic of the wing.
I still think that other greeblie is the B10...also from the Rodney...like I mentioned in marvin's thread. If so, I measure that part to be cut down to roughly 3mm. Cutting and pasting that section of the pic, I laid it over the A6 part. It looks like the A6 part is also modified down to about 3mm. Would you agree?
That leaves the solid tubing....maybe about 1mm??? And another 1mm left over.
Dammit.....what did you use to glue the extensions down?
BTW, tell me what you think about this. Speaking of the Rodney, I was going to use the A1 part pictured below for these short lengths of material on the forward and aft areas of the wing and possibly also the last vertical greeblie on the top, aft section of the wing right next to the "A6" part. They are about the same thickness as the A6 barrels. Just a thought.
Joe
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Bigturc
Sr Member
Does anyone know if the greeblies on the DV Tie parts were also there originally on the left wing? In all the ref pics I have, they're always absent and I don't see any sign of glue/no paint that would indicate they were ever there ... I decided to put them for symmetry's sake .. but I'd prefer to be closer to the original SS ..
Bigturc
Sr Member
No sweat Joe .. your extension saved me times and a ton of trouble!!! Even though I would probably change the model to use 8mm from now on I think?
Yes, on my own picture, the A6 (not B6) is showing at around 4mm (just checked here) but that's because my extensions are 10mm. At around 8, maybe even 7.8mm .. they'd be at 3mm so that would fit your description!
For that B10 part .. well .. I only have 1 Rodney .. so I won`t go into the trouble of finding cast or buying other Rodney so I`ll build them even if they`ll probably be such a pain in the butt .. these are way too small!
Are you talking about the rod diameter? If so, it seems a little bigger then the A6 which I'm guestimating at around 0.75mm .. but it's really hard to tell without proper good tools.
So I'm gonna use Plastruct MR-25 (.025"/0.6mm) or MR-20 (0.020"/0.5mm) if it fits better .. I need to visit my hobby store now ...
I glued the extensions with loctite superglue .. I'm not doing them again .. I have to stop being so anal and move on on this!!
BTW, tell me what you think about this. Speaking of the Rodney, I was going to use the A1 part pictured below for these short lengths of material on the forward and aft areas of the wing and possibly also the last vertical greeblie on the top, aft section of the wing right next to the "B6" part. They are about the same thickness as the B6 barrels. Just a thought.
Joe
Mmm .. I`m not sure I`ll go into the trouble of using those parts .. they`re just tubing after all .. I`ll do all the rods at once with one of the MR stipulated above!
joewhite
Sr Member
Right, A6....fat fingered that....I edited my post.
My calipers show the barrels at exactly .5mm. The rod looks to be at least twice the size of the barrels.
I glued the extensions with loctite superglue .. I'm not doing them again .. I have to stop being so anal and move on on this!!
Hehe! Yeah, I have to stop, too. Unless I want my model to be held together with tack putty forever! :lol
Joe
joewhite
Sr Member
For the sake of documenting, I thought I'd post some more info about the measurement on the wing extensions. I know Al is pushing on with his build but in case anyone else needed this info...here it is....
I manipulated the pic of the wing below in order to use the solar panel dimples to get a good reference point. I took a piece of the solar panel just below the faded layer starting right where the black paint starts. On the actual wing, the black paint starts right at the tiny raised panel line on the solar panel edge trim.
It looks like the ridge below the 5th dimple line is where the extension meets the actual wing. 8mm looks to be absolutely correct. As for the rest of the extension hidden underneath the wing....all four wings that I own are approximately 5mm...that is what I'm going with. I'll be cutting a test piece to check the actual fit.
The original extensions I sold were 15mm instead of the now correct 13mm. I do apologize to all the people who purchased them!!!! There will be more on that soon in my extension thread if anyone is interested.
We can now use this info to gauge the size and placement of the styrene rod.
Joe
I manipulated the pic of the wing below in order to use the solar panel dimples to get a good reference point. I took a piece of the solar panel just below the faded layer starting right where the black paint starts. On the actual wing, the black paint starts right at the tiny raised panel line on the solar panel edge trim.
It looks like the ridge below the 5th dimple line is where the extension meets the actual wing. 8mm looks to be absolutely correct. As for the rest of the extension hidden underneath the wing....all four wings that I own are approximately 5mm...that is what I'm going with. I'll be cutting a test piece to check the actual fit.
The original extensions I sold were 15mm instead of the now correct 13mm. I do apologize to all the people who purchased them!!!! There will be more on that soon in my extension thread if anyone is interested.
We can now use this info to gauge the size and placement of the styrene rod.
Joe
vinylcapejawa
New Member
Always useful information.
Bigturc
Sr Member
Joe .. this is awesome information and very welcome to my thread!
Now .. I haven't yet glued the rods on my extensions .. with the dimple size comparison, are you still convinced that the rods are about twice the size of the A6 barrel?
I might take you on the 8mm .. I'll talk to you later about it!
I need to go buy some 0.025 and 0.030 .. perhaps I should rethink it .. man this is anal!
Now .. I haven't yet glued the rods on my extensions .. with the dimple size comparison, are you still convinced that the rods are about twice the size of the A6 barrel?
I might take you on the 8mm .. I'll talk to you later about it!
I need to go buy some 0.025 and 0.030 .. perhaps I should rethink it .. man this is anal!
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