Big Bang Theory - Howard Wolowitz Rockets

Discussion in 'General Modeling' started by Shrepolls, May 13, 2012.

  1. Shrepolls

    Shrepolls New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    Hello everyone,
    I'm a big fan of Big Bang Theory and I realized that in Howard Wolowitz bedroom there are three rockets. Two of them I already known: Space Shuttle Atlantis Display Model and Saturn V 1/200 Display Model, but there is one that is white and blue that I don't recognize so I was wondering if someone could tell me where I can find him.
    This is the image:[​IMG]
    Thanks anyway.
     
  2. Jayn

    Jayn Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,476
    One of the Soyuz rockets i think..
     
  3. moffeaton

    moffeaton Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

    Trophy Points:
    3,860
    Russian Soyuz Rocket. Remember when Howard was asked to be a part of a mission? Maybe it's that particular rocket.
     
  4. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

    Trophy Points:
    2,940
    More specificaly it looks like the R-7 rocket that launched Sputnik in 1957.
     
  5. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

    Trophy Points:
    2,940
    I do not know where you could find that model.

    I suppose what you should do is figure out how big that model is, what the scale of it is, and then use google to figure out if any likely plastic model kits of it have been made. It also might be a premade model such as those wooden ones that are sold on ebay.

    It might even have been specifically built as a prop for the show.

    k
     
  6. Shrepolls

    Shrepolls New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    Ok, thanks for the answer, I will search it.
     
  7. robn1

    robn1 Master Member

    Trophy Points:
    3,355
  8. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    It looks like a Vostok, though it is too small in the pic to be 100% sure. At least it looks like the A-1 version that Vostok used (upper stage has a single engine, while the A-2 version has a 4 engine upper stage). However, It does look to be in 1/48 scale. Most of the R-7 booster spacecraft plastic models seem to be in 1/144 scale. You might have to look to a card model version, a few of which are in 1/48 scale. One good place to look is at ninfinger.org. I think it has a free card models link page that includes the Soviet/Russian stuff.

    Mark
     
  9. Shrepolls

    Shrepolls New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
  10. Shrepolls

    Shrepolls New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    Thanks Mark, I really appreciate your help, I will search it.
     
  11. Shrepolls

    Shrepolls New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    Big Model Rockets

    Hello everyone,
    I am looking for some big model rockets to decorate my room so I would like to have the help of you guys that are specialists.
    If you see this video from 11:37 to 12:31 you will see the rockets that I'm talking about.
    How Leonard and Sheldon met - YouTube
    Thanks in advance,
    Alexandre
     
  12. ursus43

    ursus43 Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    931
    Re: Big Model Rockets

    Could someone check the needle on the record? It seems to be skipping:lol
     
  13. Shrepolls

    Shrepolls New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    Re: Big Model Rockets

    I made a mistake yesterday because my computer broked so I posted four time the same thread and they deleted them four today to help me. I've posted the real one now to someone help me to find the big model rockets that I'm talking about.
     
  14. Nwerke

    Nwerke Master Member

    Trophy Points:
    3,810
    Re: Big Model Rockets

    Still forgetting your pleases and thank-yous. No elephant stamp.
     
  15. ShowCraft

    ShowCraft Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    746
    Re: Big Model Rockets

    Alexandre, most everything in the room are various types of flying model rockets. Available all over Ebay.
    You can guess the plastic kit rocket on the left of the bed, on the right is the 1/72 Vostok by Mach 2.
     
  16. JMChladek

    JMChladek Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,306
    Re: Big Model Rockets

    When was the first episode with that rocket filmed on the bedroom set? Reason I ask is I don't necessarily think it is the Mach 2 kit since it is a relatively recent kit issue (only within the past two years). For one thing, the Mach 2 kit is kind of difficult to build and secondly the display model is white in color (Soviet R-7s are mostly gray in color, they only get white when they form ice from fuelling and not everywhere). If somebody had built a kit, I think the paintjob would have been a little more accurate. BTW, 1/72 R-7 rockets are BIG (they were taller than the Atlas used in Mercury). Given how small this thing is, it looks like it might be bigger than 1/144, but I am pretty sure it is not 1/72.

    The nose of the thing is a little strange as well. It "might" be a Vostok as I think the silver band implies the break for the first and second stages (Sputnik was a single stage core with the strap-ons only), but the top looks a little more pointy, like perhaps it is a Luna. Now the Soviets did display a full size Vostok rocket painted white (first displayed at the Paris Air Show in 1969 I believe and in a pavillion in Moscow now) with big red "BOCTOK" letters painted on the side.

    So, given how weird it is, I am thinking this might be a wooden model of a Vostok, possibly made in the Phillipines. It is close enough to tell me that whomever built it might have been using a plastic model kit or a photo as reference, but with enough weirdo errors on it to imply to me that whomever built it was only looking at a photo of the white Vostok for reference and nothing else and isn't normally the kind of person that builds rocket models.
     
  17. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    I don’t think it is as big as 1/72. Even though the nose looks to be pointier than a Vostok, I still think it is intended to represent one. Given the geometry of the 3rd stage/spacecraft compared to the 1st & 2nd stages, I think the Luna configuration would be a little too short. Assuming the Saturn V is a 1/144 scale model (it looks like it to me), and given the poor image with which to work, it could be a Dr. Zooch flying model rocket, which is listed as 14" tall. That would make the scale about 1/107. I can find only one wooden Vostok launcher model, and it doesn’t look quite like Wolowitz’s. In fact, the nose shroud suffers from the opposite condition as the TV model - a bit too bulgy. However, it is painted all white, and stands at 14" tall, which would put the scale at about 1/107 to maybe 1/120, depending on if the stand is included in the height, and how accurate the description of said height is. Of course it could still be a wooden model, just one I haven’t run across. Could also be an out of production kit model, like the MPC Vostok RD-107, with a scale of 1/100, which would put the rocket height at just under 15". I suppose it is possible that it could be an obscure model at 1/96 scale, making it about 15 1/2" tall. Or it could be a hastily made model (wood?) for the show.

    Mark
     
  18. JMChladek

    JMChladek Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,306
    I know it isn't the MPC model kit as I've seen that one and it looked rather good compared to this. A model rocket is indeed a possibility. One thing is for sure though, proportionally it looks rather strange. I compared it with my references and it looks too short to be a Vostok, yet too long to be a Luna (both were R-7 variants with the A-1 upper stage, the Luna was used to send probes to the moon). Again, that is why I think this might be a hand built wood model from Asia, such as the Phillipines.

    As for the Saturn V and the shuttle, they look to me like they are 1/200 desktop models (such as what one finds at NASA gift shops). I've got a 1/144 Saturn sitting on display in my room and it is rather tall (about 25" tall). The Leia on display looks like the Sideshow Collectibles 1/4 Premium Leia figure, which is 16" tall. A 1/200 Saturn would be about 18" tall and from what I can see, the Saturn is only slightly taller than the Leia. If it was a 1/144 model, it should be 9 inches taller.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2012
  19. CJ 617

    CJ 617 Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,486
    I'm glad this thread has appeared as I was wondering the same, about the rockets etc on display in the show. I've always wanted a large size shuttle model, like the one in Leonard and Sheldon's place and also a shuttle with launch tanks, as seen in Raj's office at the university. Any ideas where to obtain such large scale models as I only ever seem to find the smaller ones as mentioned earlier in this thread.

    Thanks
     
  20. JMChladek

    JMChladek Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,306
    Well, if the one at Leonard and Sheldon's place is the same ole Shuttle that has been around since season 1, that one I believe is just a built Revell 1/72 kit (gear up with the flight deck section missing). I admittedly don't watch the show faithfully (only an episode here or there, although I did watch Howard "Fruit Loops" Wolowitz take his Soyuz ride), so I haven't seen what is in Raj's office.

    Display models of about 1/200 or 1/144 scale (1/100 scale shuttle orbiter is the largest I've seen for sale, nothing bigger than that UNLESS it might be possible to place a special order) usually can be found at the NASA giftshops. They are not cheap though. Some of the better aerospace museums also carry them. Anything above those sizes IF they are display models from NASA was likely donated since one typically does not see them for sale. But sometimes if you scour the auction sites or can check around towns that have NASA centers (or the places where companies like Lockheed and Boeing build space hardware), sometimes you can get lucky if there is an estate sale or somebody is cleaning out their garage.

    The NASA centers like JSC, Marshall and Kennedy have their own dedicated model shops to produce replicas for display purposes, in offices and stuff (wood shuttles with opening payload bay doors for instance). In one case, the Marshall SFC model shop sent Niel deGrasse Tyson a BIG Saturn V model as a thank you gift. But they do NOT do that sort of thing for the general public. Contractor companies also have model shops to make stuff like this as well, but the same things apply (i.e. not for sale, internal use only).

    One excellent resource on the web to check out is collectSPACE.com as there are a few space collectors over there that watch "Big Bang" from time to time and they might have an idea where to find some of the rocket models.

    Of course, if one has modeling skills, big display models of shuttles can be done with available commercial kits (such as the Monogram 1/72 shuttle stack). Although they may lack the pedigree of a real "Big Bang" prop ;) :

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2012
  21. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    You might be right, the Saturn V could be a 1/200 model. It depends on the height of the bedside stand. It seems slightly shorter than the stand. Could be a short stand, like 24" or 25". Mine is a bit taller.

    Hmm…well, when I do the cypherin’, the 363' height of the Saturn V scales out to 30 1/4" at 1/144, and 21.78" at 1/200. Even so, if it is a shorter bedside stand, then the 1/200 scale does seem to be the best fit. The more I think about it, the more I think the 3 rockets are probably wood because they are much more robust to handle than a built up kit model, which would be a consideration for a TV show. I remember one episode where Wolowitz was actually handling the Saturn V, and without any special care.

    Mark
     
  22. Go Flight

    Go Flight Active Member

    Trophy Points:
    211
    FWIW, Airfix has just re-released the 1:144 Vostok.
    also realspacemodels.com has the 1:144 Soyuz...
     
  23. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    Yes they have, and I’ve got an Airfix 1/144 version from years ago. For me, it is just too tiny. I wish someone would release, or re-release, a significantly larger scale model that is both accurate and affordable.

    Mark
     
  24. JMChladek

    JMChladek Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,306
    Well, the 1/72 scale Mach 2 R-7 based kits are reasonably accurate for what you get. They just are not easy to build (and they still need to do a Soyuz variant or somebody needs to do a resin Soyuz upper stage). They are also a little overpriced for what you get (they were about $90 retail, I was able to get a Vostok for about $40 on eBay though) But, if you want a BIG Soviet rocket kit (as opposed to a pre-build), that is the one to get.

    The Airfix kit suffers from some proportion issues due to the references used (photos of the rocket on display at the 1969 Paris Air Show). So the strap on boosters are a little too skinny. The more accurate 1/144 R-7s would be the ones from Apex (Maquette, Eastern Express and a couple other companies have done them since, but they are ALL the same core kit). The Apex kits are not bad, just a little tricky to build. The resin one from Cutting Edge was the best of the lot, but it is also nearly impossible to find these days since the company went belly up a few years ago.
     
  25. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    Thanks, but I am aware of the price and rarity issues with the Mach 2. Also aware of the accuracy issues with Airfix, and though the Apex is more accurate, I don’t want it in 1/144. Anymore, I am leaning towards converting one of the 1/48 paper models into a sheet plastic version. Of course that will mean various changes will have to be made. I was just hoping to avoid the hassle. That’s the story of my life; if I want something, it is either too expensive, not made, or made badly, in the wrong size, etc., so I end up making it myself.

    Mark
     
  26. JMChladek

    JMChladek Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,306
    Well, you don't necessarily have to use styrene sheet entirely. If you soak cardstock with very thin CA glue (after a paper model part is assembled) it can soak into the part very well, turning it into a very strong material (almost like a fiberglass or phenolic tubing). I've done that for small assemblies on model rockets and it works great. If the paper is laminated, just lightly sand it to expose the fibers before doing this. That way you can build the paper parts, soak them in CA glue, then prepare the surface for painting almost like a plastic part (and fill surface defects).

    Be aware though that the R-7 is a pretty tall rocket. It dwarfed the Mercury Redstone and Atlas boosters and I think was even taller than the Titan II Geminis. So a 1/48 R-7 is going to be a pretty large creation. Still, I might try that myself since I have a Dragon 1/48 CZ-2F in my stash and it would be nice to have something to stand next to it. I collected the parts to do a 1/48 Saturn 1B a few years back, but that project got pushed to the back burner a few times.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2012
  27. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    I don’t really mind using styrene sheet, though it will be more trouble to roll the strap on boosters cone tips to a point. Of course I can always stop short of the actual point, and sculpt tiny solid cones from sprue, rod, or Aves to make up the difference. Never tried the CA glue paper soak trick. I may want to do an experiment to see how I like it.

    Yes, I am aware of the height of an R-7A Vostok at 1/48 scale…comes in at about 31.17" tall. And it is in fact bigger than Gemini Titan II, which is about 26.9" at 1/48 scale. Actually, I have this grand plan to make many of the historical rockets in 1/48 scale, from V-2 to Saturn V, which will be the tallest. I already have 1/48 scale V-2, Mercury and Gemini capsules, Hawk & Glencoe Jupiter Cs, Apollo command and service modules, LEM, and I know a 1/48 scale Saturn V will be 90.75" tall, which will comfortably fit into a room with an 8 foot ceiling. Of course I must be judicious about the base/stand height. Truth be told, if I had the room to go 1/24, I would.

    Mark
     
  28. CJ 617

    CJ 617 Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,486
    Many thanks for the info and suggestions of where to look..I really appreciate it. Those models look amazing btw!!!!!!

    Chris
     
  29. Go Flight

    Go Flight Active Member

    Trophy Points:
    211
    The only thing bigger I've seen is from Sheri's Hot Rockets. :love She has a number of 1:48 scale "kits." I think most of these are made to be flown but one could easliy turn it into a static display piece - index

    I don't think they have any former Soviet launch vehicles tho...
     
  30. Darth Humorous

    Darth Humorous Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    I’ve drooled over Sheri’s Hot Rockets for a long time now. Actually, she only has the Saturn 1B and Saturn V in 1/48. And tempted though I am, I will have to wait on those two unless I come into a windfall by some freak accident. No, I knew she didn’t have have USSR rockets. Thanks anyway.

    Mark
     
  31. MightyDrake

    MightyDrake New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    I know this is an old thread, but it's the same subject. And we seem to have some people here familiar with model rocket trivia :)

    A coupla years ago, Howard added a new model to his collection of rockets. It looks like it might be just a capsule with its escape tower attached. But, I've never seen a closeup good enough to read the logo on it. Does anyone know what it is? On the left of this picture:

    HowardsModelRocket.jpg

    I can take a better picture, if it's necessary. But, I was thinking that someone probably already knows what it is just from the general shape.

    Thanks,
    Drake Christensen
     
  32. Hammer3246

    Hammer3246 Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,266
    I believe it's the top of the NASA SLS.

    Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
     
  33. MightyDrake

    MightyDrake New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    Thank you. I think you're probably correct. I searched around a little, but couldn't find any pictures of the model itself. Nor, any really good pictures of the capsule. But, this picture makes it look like the one at the top of this Extreme Tech page is probably the same.

    sls_block_1_expanded_view_orion.jpg

    Appreciate it.
     

    Attached Files:

Share This Page