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tgreco
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
Ridley Scott
Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, Legend, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven
hell, even Thelma & Louise and Black Rain
he's never stuck to one genre, and every film he does he brings a photographers sensibility to every frame, and each scene is a work of art
Ridley Scott
Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, Legend, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven
hell, even Thelma & Louise and Black Rain
he's never stuck to one genre, and every film he does he brings a photographers sensibility to every frame, and each scene is a work of art
CTF
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
You just described Stanley Kubrick, not Ridley Scott.
You just described Stanley Kubrick, not Ridley Scott.
CTF
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
No man is an island.
Especially when it comes to film.
Don't give me any of that auteur theory stuff, either.
No man is an island.
Especially when it comes to film.
Don't give me any of that auteur theory stuff, either.
tgreco
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
oh don't get me wrong, I love Kubrick, I just think Ridley is more on an actors director with a great eye. Some Kubrick films leave me a little cold. He's too much of a minimalist I think. Yet Ironically he did A Clockwork Orange which is a huge character driven piece... He (Kubrick) tends to do one or the other.
CTF
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
Kubrick got more out of his actors than almost any other director. Sure, he beat it out of 'em, but it worked. And his eye is better than Scott's. Like him or not, every single flick Kubrick made is considered a great. Unlike Scott.
I'll give you the first two, for sure; but, really... the others?
Kubrick got more out of his actors than almost any other director. Sure, he beat it out of 'em, but it worked. And his eye is better than Scott's. Like him or not, every single flick Kubrick made is considered a great. Unlike Scott.
I'll give you the first two, for sure; but, really... the others?
Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
Steven Spielberg.
After him John Ford and Frank Capra.
Steven Spielberg.
After him John Ford and Frank Capra.
tgreco
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
yes really, the others. You're welcome to disagree.
I think Black Hawk Down, Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven are great films.
I'm not a big Thelma and Louise fan, but I sat through it once. If nothing else it was him stretching himself artistically.
I disagree. Kubrick liked simple stark palettes. Scott does light and shadow better, and has a much richer look to his shots.
And let's be honest. Disregarding the hype. Full Metal Jacket, while a great film, Mathew Modine has some pretty wooden moments. Same with Eyes Wide Shut. I get what he was going for, and on the whole it works, but there are some scenes that are just "meh" There are people on this very board that can't sit through 2001. And I find alot of Kubrick's characters aren't very deep.
I'm not saying Kubrick isn't great, but his body of work is much smaller (16 films compared to 28 completed by Scott), and if we're going to start throwing stones, I'll watch Kingdom of Heaven two dozen times before I rewatch Eyes Wide Shut again.
And if you think Scott wishes he was Kubrick, then I'll just respond that Kubrick WISHES he was Kurasowa. But then, a ton of directors wish they were Kurasowa.
I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who would whine if someone said Francis Ford Coppola... and then cite Godfather 3. And I'm sure someone will shriek Speilburg, and Lucas.
So you're welcome to dogpile on my tastes, but based on the pretty limited film repertoire of some of the folks on this board, I don't care all that much, and after all the title did ask "In my mind".
Oh, and THX 1138 is GL attempting to BE Kubrick.
yes really, the others. You're welcome to disagree.
I think Black Hawk Down, Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven are great films.
I'm not a big Thelma and Louise fan, but I sat through it once. If nothing else it was him stretching himself artistically.
I disagree. Kubrick liked simple stark palettes. Scott does light and shadow better, and has a much richer look to his shots.
And let's be honest. Disregarding the hype. Full Metal Jacket, while a great film, Mathew Modine has some pretty wooden moments. Same with Eyes Wide Shut. I get what he was going for, and on the whole it works, but there are some scenes that are just "meh" There are people on this very board that can't sit through 2001. And I find alot of Kubrick's characters aren't very deep.
I'm not saying Kubrick isn't great, but his body of work is much smaller (16 films compared to 28 completed by Scott), and if we're going to start throwing stones, I'll watch Kingdom of Heaven two dozen times before I rewatch Eyes Wide Shut again.
And if you think Scott wishes he was Kubrick, then I'll just respond that Kubrick WISHES he was Kurasowa. But then, a ton of directors wish they were Kurasowa.
I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who would whine if someone said Francis Ford Coppola... and then cite Godfather 3. And I'm sure someone will shriek Speilburg, and Lucas.
So you're welcome to dogpile on my tastes, but based on the pretty limited film repertoire of some of the folks on this board, I don't care all that much, and after all the title did ask "In my mind".
Oh, and THX 1138 is GL attempting to BE Kubrick.
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Larry Young
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
...and those people are dead to me. :lol
...and those people are dead to me. :lol
Qui-Gonzalez
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
Too many to name. I do enjoy Kubrick, Nolan, Scott and even Shpielberg. A director is only as good as the story he has to tell. (As much as I am a Prequels fan, I could not say Lucas is a good director and keep a straight face.)
Too many to name. I do enjoy Kubrick, Nolan, Scott and even Shpielberg. A director is only as good as the story he has to tell. (As much as I am a Prequels fan, I could not say Lucas is a good director and keep a straight face.)
Qui-Gonzalez
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
I will punch you in the baby maker for that opinion!
I will punch you in the baby maker for that opinion!
Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
As far as Scott doing light and shadow better, You need to re-watch Barry Lyndon.
Scott aped a lot of his shots in his first film, He was paying tribute to the innovating Master who taught him and Scott is no slouch as a Cinematographer but he is no Kubrick
Kubricks body of work being small was because he did'nt make a film unless he wanted to, did'nt have to.
Don't get me wrong I respect and like Scott but for me his last films have been very disapointing just cranking them out :unsure
As far as Scott doing light and shadow better, You need to re-watch Barry Lyndon.
Scott aped a lot of his shots in his first film, He was paying tribute to the innovating Master who taught him and Scott is no slouch as a Cinematographer but he is no Kubrick
Kubricks body of work being small was because he did'nt make a film unless he wanted to, did'nt have to.
Don't get me wrong I respect and like Scott but for me his last films have been very disapointing just cranking them out :unsure
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Colin Droidmilk
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
Lez get serious here. There are maybe ten to twenty equally great Greats. I'd pick something like:
Kurosawa
Bergman
Fellini
Hitchcock
Lean
Lang
Welles
Ford
Then there are the lesser Greats, of whom there are a great many. People like Bunuel, Polanski, Kubrick, Malle, Truffaut, Clouzot, Leone, Capra, Bresson, Lumet, Pasolini, Bertolucci, Wilder, Tarkovsky, Kieslowski, Scorsese maybe, Coppola maybe...
Then we get to the Spielbergs and Scotts. Still fabulous directors in their best films, but the sheer patchiness of their output, and their generally shallower engagement with the human condition compared to the directors mentioned above, bars them from the higher echelons, though their best work still towers over the rank and file.
Bear in mind, I'm looking at this from an art perspective as opposed to entertainment perspective. (And to me from the art point of view, Duel is Spielberg's most perfect film, unstained as it is by the over-sentimentality that spoils his most formidable pieces, Ryan and List [not seen Munich])
Mmmkay?
Lez get serious here. There are maybe ten to twenty equally great Greats. I'd pick something like:
Kurosawa
Bergman
Fellini
Hitchcock
Lean
Lang
Welles
Ford
Then there are the lesser Greats, of whom there are a great many. People like Bunuel, Polanski, Kubrick, Malle, Truffaut, Clouzot, Leone, Capra, Bresson, Lumet, Pasolini, Bertolucci, Wilder, Tarkovsky, Kieslowski, Scorsese maybe, Coppola maybe...
Then we get to the Spielbergs and Scotts. Still fabulous directors in their best films, but the sheer patchiness of their output, and their generally shallower engagement with the human condition compared to the directors mentioned above, bars them from the higher echelons, though their best work still towers over the rank and file.
Bear in mind, I'm looking at this from an art perspective as opposed to entertainment perspective. (And to me from the art point of view, Duel is Spielberg's most perfect film, unstained as it is by the over-sentimentality that spoils his most formidable pieces, Ryan and List [not seen Munich])
Mmmkay?
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Colin Droidmilk
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Re: Who is the best Director. Well, in your mind.
Yep! Gotta keep all you fanboys in line... :lol
Still, you got The Birds there, Some Like it Hot, The Searchers... it's not all subtitled Swedish angst!
Yep! Gotta keep all you fanboys in line... :lol
Still, you got The Birds there, Some Like it Hot, The Searchers... it's not all subtitled Swedish angst!
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