Battlestar Galactica movie?

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  1. Skalen Fehl

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  2. firesprite

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  3. Skalen Fehl

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    That's a good thing. And if it can do as well or better than Moore's creation, well then that's also a good thing. As much as I enjoyed the campy original series and absolutely love the new, reimagined series, I'm open to another interpretation. It won't taint my affinity for the old man and his crew. And it certainly won't taint my childhood fondness for the series that got me deeper in love with space fantasy. I'll probably just have to get used to yet another Starbuck.

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  4. OldKen

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    I just hope Appolo and Starbuck are both guys.

    I hope it is a better newer version of the old ORIGINAL.

    Never got into the new one. Though Edward J Olmos was a GREAT Adama. Very Lorne Greene like... the rest I couldn't get into...

    I DID love the RAZOR mini series. And wish the new show woulda stuck with that look and feel. Create NEW NAMES for your main characters. You want your ace pilot to be a chinese girl? COOL! Call her something else!
     
  5. babroseker

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    I really really enjoyed the reimagined series, and the thought of this movie has me a bit concerned. I like Singer's work, but just personally feel that it is to close to the end of Moore's series for yet another reboot/reimagining.
     
  6. steveo

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    is this a made for scifi movie or a theatrical release? I for one would love to see a great BSG made for theaters.

    Never got into the Moore version, so I hope, whichever way this new movie goes, is nothing like his.
     
  7. Apollo

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    Don't see it then.

    Singer's version was in the works before the Series


     
  8. TheStig

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    I adored the Moore series and sort of enjoyed the original. I remember seeing it on Scifi went it first started. I'll check it out though.

    Still Olmos is my Adama.
     
  9. firesprite

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    What does that have to do with the price of apples? Regardless of how long it was in development Hades, we just had a vastly popular BSG series end and comparisons are inevitable. He's waited this long, why not give it a few more years to reduce that likelihood?

    I'm not flat-out saying I won't see it, but he's gonna have to really wow me to get my money before it comes out on dvd.
     
  10. Star Wars Chick

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    Me too. I actually would love to see this movie happen.
     
  11. micdavis

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    I don't even consider the "new" show Galactica, so yeah bring it on.
     
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    Never could get into the new version. I'll give this one a go.
     
  13. GDafi

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    I enjoyed the original series, but loved the reimagined series even more, WHY?
    BSG TOS was 25 plus years old from a time when there was no conflict or chance for character development, where as BSG RI kept it real. BSG RI is gritty, people die, have fights, hold grudges, where as BSG TOS, things changed form one week to another.
    And the SFX in BSG RI are frakking fantastic, god love CGI
    okay Lee Adama changed sides more times than needed, but, it was more real the BSG TOS.
    Remember what television was like back in the 70's and 80's, it was great, but when you buy the dvd sets of your favorite series, and watch it, you gringe( well I do, especially Space 1999)
    The memory is better than the reality.
    As for another BSG, bring it on, and I will watch it
     
  14. Apollo

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    Ummm because there are a TON of old school fans who think that new Series was a poorly written, lazily done, abomination.

    If you don't want to see it because it's, "To Soon" for you, don't go simple as that. :rolleyes

    There are plenty others who will go see it and want it done



     
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    My question was always, why couldn't they come up with their own character names and main plot around all that "drama".

    Why basically steal the history of something else then make it something completely different?

    Because it is not really Battlestar Galactica.

    We have no idea how or where the original show and it's values and lessons would have taken us, simply because it was the most expensive show ever made at the time and had to face NETWORK ratings.

    If the nuBSG had to face the same thing it wouldn't have made it 6 episodes.
     
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    Double post.
     
  17. JD

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    Bryan Singer

    I’m a huge fan of the original series and of the second show, too. But I always thought the first show was a little too heavily reliant on ‘Star Wars,’ you know? Whereas I think the second show was really original and really cool. And I think I’ve come up with a way to write this movie that won’t **** any of that up. I’m not sure how much they want me to talk about it. Let’s just say it’s not what you expect. It will all work in the universe that exists. It will not conflict with anything Ron Moore has done. I don’t think you can compete with what he’s done.
    -John Orloff
    writer of Singer's BSG

    I still think this is needless remake. The series is still way too recent and was way too good... although that quote definitely has me interested. Bring Ron Moore on as a producer, writer, something and I'll buy it.​
     
  18. Ray22

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    As a kid growing up in the 70's I loved the original series but when I look at it now as an adult you see it as a cheesey , and a way for the T.V. execs to cash in on the "Star Wars" Craze at the time. They never even found earth and cancelled the show and then created that Galactica in the 80's which was right up there with the "Ford Pinto". The new series was pretty good and at least it didn't leave you hanging. I don't know about a Galactica movie after this guy Jacked up the last Superman movie.
     
  19. TheStig

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    Because NBC/Universal wanted to make money off the BSG name. Thankfully we got a truly original show out of the deal and not remakes of old BSG scripts with CG ships tossed in. In the end, the only thing the two share is the basic concept and a few names (Although most of those names became callsigns). That's how these things work, studios don't want to take a chance anymore so they go with established brands.

    So we might as well sit back and hope for something good every now and then. Because there is going to be a lot more of it in the future.

     
  20. Funky

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    I'm with you all the way.
    To be fair, I tried to watch the new BSG and I just couldn't get into it. It was like a completely new show with very vague remnants of the original. It was too serious and you had to stay on top of it to know what was going on.
    The original, though dated, was fun with cool effects. I think if you took the same characters with all the same props and improve the effects a bit it could most certainly work today. Sure improve the story for todays standards but still keep it fun.
     
  21. ShadowX81

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    Ive never seen the original, but I loved Moore's reimagining (atleast I did until the last season where the show dropped the simple human drama and drowned itself in its own bloated and confusing mythology).

    It just seems way too soon for a remake. Say what you want about remakes but atleast they waited a quarter century before creating the new series. But Moore's series has been off the air for only a couple years and its already time for a new franchise?
     
  22. Nwerke

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    Really? Lazy? Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle. :lol Lucas won his lawsuit against the producers, IIRC.

    Agree. This is going to cause confusion and audience expectations will be all over the place. And as Blade Runner, or The Fifth Element demonstrated, audiences just love it when they get something that doesn't match their preconceptions.
     
  23. JD

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    A TON!?!? :confused :lol

    Sure, There's a small group of "old school fans" and an even smaller group of vocal "old school fans" who didn't like the the new series.

    What's very true is that the new series was very highly lauded in the press. The series won the very prestigious Peabody Award and was named Time magazine's Best television programs.

    From the wiki page:
    You can try to downplay the reception to the new BSG series from a loud-but-small group. But, facts are facts... the series was at the very least a critical success. ... and that from professionals, not a bunch of fanboys * off that there's no daggit named Muffet. Heck, even Richard Hatch came around.
     
  24. Treadwell

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    Which one? TOS and the new one are not in the same universe.
     
  25. JD

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    Interesting point. While on a first read it sure seems to imply he's refering to the new series - but, if you really read it it's kind of ambiguous as to what series the movie could fit into.
     
  26. Skalen Fehl

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    Just finished watching the entire series again. What a gritty, visceral, dark and yet triumphant allegorical epic! I am so glad I decided to give it a chance when I first saw it.
     
  27. Nwerke

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    I may borrow your description when trying to sell sceptics on the show. :thumbsup
     
  28. Apollo

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    Bah George was just * that he did'nt pitch it! ;)



     
  29. Apollo

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    :lol You are going to have to do alot better then blowing smoke up my wazoo by saying the Series was critically acclaimed by the press! :lol

    I watched the whole Series when it was on and actually enjoyed some Seasons of it.

    The last ones were horrible and I thought they squandered their opportunity.

    As far as Richard Hatch they brought him in to try and get the TOS fans to the show.

    At least he got thrown a bone. :lol


     
  30. ShadowX81

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    Im right there with you. While I liked the 3rd season (I actually thought it was better than the 2nd), I apsolutly hated the last one. By the middle of it, I honestly had no clue who was on who's side. Im sure some people will claim that is was makes it engaging and deep, but for me it just became impossible to follow.

    I still have no idea at all how Starbuck's corpse and Viper ended up on earth.
     
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  31. Captain Han Solo

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    In My Opinion,..That's MY OPINION(not claiming to be an expert ,etc And to those who do enjoy the New show, Good for you:thumbsup...)The re-imagined series lost its nobility.. and the people,the male characters were so over the top flawed, emasculated, and indecisive that I often lost suspension of disbelief while watching.


    To be blunt, the male characters in “re-imagined” are so overly feminized and flawed that, in spite of good acting performances by the actors, after a while I just stopped liking them and certainly did not admire them. The “culture” of “re-imagined” was all wrong.The Female characters, on the other hand, were tough as nails and man enough to show it.

    Perhaps “re-imagined” was meant to be a reflection of today’s flawed pop culture rather than an example of the best of our own. While the eye candy “re-imagined” was inspiring,(I do love the Ships!!) the story sub plots were less and less so and at times smacked of a bad soap opera.

    I was pushing myself to watch it and as the second season went onto the third I just couldn’t watch it any more.

    Glen Larson, Galactica's creator, hated the New series and was very vocal about it. He even blocked the over rated Ron Moore from Producing a Movie of his version(Ron Moore), of the show.

    I hope that Glen Larson does his legacy justice with this new film and creates something that is more philosophically deep rather than psychologically in need of a good therapist.


    Just another 2 cents!!!
     
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  32. JD

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    I loved the new series and I watched the old series first run and still have an appreciation for it - although it is very, very dated and campy (something I didn't realize back in the late 70s).

    Yes, the new series had flaws. The first part of the last season lost a bit of the magic - especially while aboard the "submarine" ship. The mutiny could've been amazing and it had some moments but fell a bit flat. But, hey - we had episodes like Black Market and The Woman King long before season 4 came along.

    But, I absolutely loved the final episodes - this was TV at its best. Even with its flaws, this was the closest I've seen to perfect television.

    But, overly feminized? Not sure where that came from - not something I see at all. Deeply flawed? Yeah, you take people - even soldiers - in a situation where their homes, families and billions of people were destroyed and yes, you will see flaws and characters that will change radically. I saw the flaws in both male and female characters alike and I saw both sexes treated fairly equally.

    But, it's not like they made a pitstop at the Casino planet. :lol

    From what I recall, Larson had a few beefs with the show... one of which was that he was not given credit (which was changed). I can't find much else to back up his other issues, but I recall Larson wasn't enthused that the Mormon themes he incorporated into the original show weren't featured in the new show, nor was the new show as family friendly.
     
  33. TheStig

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    I don't even know what you mean by this. The closest I can think of is the male characters showing emotions, which does happen. I know Adama cried on the show when he found out the truth about his best friend. A man he had known and trusted like a brother for decades. I'd be upset too.


    New BSG was meant to be us, the human race, warts and all. They were extremely flawed and made terrible decisions at times. But sometimes they rose to the occasion and did some amazing things.
     
  34. Skalen Fehl

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    You see people who reached breaking points in times of stress and duress. Many crumbled, some snapped and some endured it well. It was, after all, the end of the world. Adama's breakdown after finding out about Saul moved me. A leader has to be strong and who really could the old man turn to? He must command respect and confidence or else all is lost. He can only turn inward. Luckily he had his son to confide in on occasion and then of course an equal--Laura Roslin.

    There were still plenty of Mormon theological themes. Starbuck didn't know what she was, that is, until the very end--someone who had died and come back to life in a new body (and a new ship), a gift from the one true God. Resurrection of sorts. When her mission was finished, she simply "went on".
     
  35. Jathoris

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    I enjoyed the original series and the reimagined series was frakin awesome! I may be the only one in here but I wouldn't want to see someone attempt to make it as a film. That's what we just had for a few seasons not too long ago and it was absolutely beautiful! I for one am perfectly happy with what we were just treated to and can always go back and watch the DVDs to enjoy it all over again. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
     
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    Heck, that isn't hard to do. Just have actors on a set filming scenes from BSG 1978 (or a 1978 reunion movie) when the Cylon basestar that jumped away at the end of nu BSG pops in with the evolved Cylons onboard thinking they are watching "historical documents" (their memory cores are a little defective). The resulting film would be the BSG equivalent of Galaxy Quest. ;)
     
  39. JD

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    Dear Brian Singer,

    Please don't.

    We have the "original" series.

    We have the Ron Moore series.

    At this point in time, we don't need another Battlestar Galactica.

    I'll be honest: The Usual Suspects is one of my favorite movies of all time. I love that movie... it's darn near perfect.

    ...and I love the "new" Battlestar Galactica. It is simply the best television show I've ever watched. That series entertained me like nothing else. Waiting from week to week and assinine SyFy channel season breaks.

    I've seen a few of your other movies - notably X-Men, X2 and Superman Returns. There were cool moments here and there - Superman saving that airplane was just amazing. But, the rest of those three flicks I felt 'meh' about. That doesn't give me hope for your Battlestar Galactica - your recent interviews saying it could tie the old and new series... um, why? These are two great series that don't need to be tied together.

    For the love of all that is good I ask: please leave Battlestar alone. Let it rest for a few years - if you have the itch in ten years, then sure - go at it. In the meantime, there are plenty of other old things you can reboot - I'd love to see Logan's Run on the big screen (again), there's Salvage One (with today's technology could be pretty cool).

    The Galactica and her crew are just a little too fresh in everyone's mind still.


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    I like the old series as a fine, but poorly aged example of its day.

    Did enjoy much of the new series. The designs were pretty cool and I have the Titanium Galactica on my desk right now. Not that the new series didn't have its flaws. It was probably one season too long and the ending seemed almost like an afterthought. I kinda liked the general feel of the universe.

    Curious to see how the Singer version turns out, curious to see their version of the Galactica.
     
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  43. JediG60racer

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    Singer's version is completely unnecessary at this point.

    May as well have Richard Hatch film his "Second Coming" BSG series and throw that in the mix too. Then we can have HR Puffenstuff guest star in a special made for SyFy movie with Debbie Gibson and tie them together. Because that really needs to be done.
     
  44. nwjedidave

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    Well said JD!
     
  45. Demoriel

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    I a huge fan of the Original show, like many here, i grew up watching the show in 1978 as a teenager.Over the past few years, it has been a dream come true, to have worked on a crew of model builders who actually have built 2 Studio Scale Galacticas. 1 was shown for over a year at the Sci-fi Museum in Seattle (wish i could have made it up to see it) See Photo below:
    When the Moore version of the show first aired, i was skeptical. Starbuck as a girl? Boomer a girl? etc..? i was like WTF? However, after watching many episodes, i was really surprised at the freshness of the show. Most sci-fi are so derived in feel from and try to copy, or seem like wanna-be Star Trek, Star Wars or 2001 rip offs, and yet here was something which, i feel had taken a bold step to really create their OWN vision. From the music,the flawed characters, turning pre-conceived notions of old school characters and breathing new life into them,the adult themes, the photography, the stories, all in my opinion, were really amazing and i give that show very high praise. It is probably one of thee BEST television shows i have ever seen.

    Some old school fans will never be able to watch the Moore version because of principle. or maybe they watched a few minutes, or parts of 1 or 2 episodes, but just couldn't get into it, because it just wasn't the show they loved. And that's OK. What bothers me, is when some of those same fans, cop and attitude, that anyone who loves the NEW show is a Moron, or not as "hardcore" a Galactica fan as them. Believe me, if the new show had sucked, i would understand, but Holy Hell, the Moore BSG is a * good show. And i'm glad i watched it.
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  46. rodneyfaile

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    ?Battlestar Galactica? Movie Gets New Life at Universal (EXCLUSIVE) | Variety

    Universal is ramping up a movie version of the sci-fi franchise “Battlestar Galactica,” aiming to develop the film as a complete reimagining of the story.
    “Transcendence” writer Jack Paglen has signed on to write the screenplay. Paglen has also committed to Ridley Scott’s “Prometheus” sequel for Fox that will start production this fall.
     
  47. Sluis Van Shipyards

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    No! One reimagining is enough. Why can't it be about another Battlestar? Stop rewriting the whole thing. They already got it done right once, then perfect with the Olmos BSG.
     
  48. Wes R

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    Boy they're going to beat this cashcow to death aren't they? Given the size of the battlestar universe you think they could use another ship. Better yet make it about that other earth they found that wiped itself out.
     
  49. Apollo

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    Maybe it will be better than that latest abomination but I don't hold out much hope! :lol
     
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    We can look forward to a re-boot every decade. Great reason to dust off the flight suits. .
     

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