Batman Begins/The Dark Knight prop - electrostatically flocked parachute silk

coofunkcurly

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I know there's not a huge Batman following here but I wanted to share my experience with trying to replicate a prop over the last few months. If you've ever watched the Begins extra features the costume designer speaks of how they started filming using a cotton velveteen but it got heavy when wet. So they had to invent their own fabric. I am trying to replicate that very light and waterproof custom fabric.

Some great questions have been asked about the durability of this material and I can say that the flock does not easily scrape off. Unlike a home flocking kit like those used for model railways, this stuff is added on uniformly and with industrial equipment. There is nothing homemade about this custom material. It is professionally done and suitable to be mass produced to the textile industry for a variety of applications.

If there was any weakness to the connection between the nylon and the flocking fibers I would expect that even rubbing your hands across it would result in 1 or 2 of the millions of fibers to show on your hands. But they do not. The electrostatic process involved ensures that they are applied evenly and firmly.

Now onto some pics...
This is the v2 version of the cape. If the v1 was 25% of where I want it to be, I would consider this v2 to be 50% there. Difference between the 2 is only the weight of the nylon with the v2 being less than half as heavy. And the v1 is pretty darn light!

With that being said - it is pretty hard to get pics that show the difference in weight. But I took some pics anyway because I love you guys. :lol Keep in mind that I am not moving the cape around for each shot. Just letting the wind take it.

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Thought maybe some video would show the lightweight qualities. We had a good breeze here but I'm not sure this really shows you much. Watch it anyway. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVMtcmsfUs0

I expect the v3 will be the last one I need. Changes that I hope to introduce:
-matte nylon
-softer nylon (or "laundered" as Tony mentioned)
-screen accurate pattern
 
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Wow you have really gone into the ins and outs of the fibre there ! I never knew there was so much to nylon :lol It has a great look to it blowing in the wind , should look awesome when done :thumbsup

I see you mentioned there is a not a big batman following here, where is a good place to go as i have been having a look round as i am building a sticky bomb gun soon for a client. Any help gratefully received:)
 
Thanks guys. This is really taking accuracy beyond what many could care about.:lol But that's what we like to do. Aside from the accuracy standpoint these capes are remarkably lightweight. Which is important for a costume as the weight of a cape can pull on the chest armor and shift it or even tear it. There should be no need for reinforcement or harnesses with this cape.

tango'd - not sure if I am allowed to link other forums on here but "The Brotherhood of the Bat" is THE Batman forum.
I would love to see how your sticky bomb gun turns out! That is on my want list of props.
 
Thanks for the link i will check it out:cool
I will post up some pics when i get it started , am in the development stage at the moment trying to figure out how it all unfolds and what parts to use etc but i think i have it all figured now ...I think :love
 
Over the last several weeks I have been chatting with someone of interest in the UK. He has now helped me with the final piece of the screen accurate cape puzzle - the pattern.

The correct pattern has been elusive to us for 4 years now. But I will in the coming weeks have the Christian Bale walking cape pattern in my possession. Cool thing is the pattern is the same for Begins and TDK. Just different connectors to the suit.

All I can say is that we've seen some fantastic fan made Begins/TDK capes but we've all been way off in terms of accuracy. :lol I was surprised.

And something I wasn't really seeking out but landed in my lap via the same source are THE Begins cape clips. Cast off screen used.

These new developments have really re-ignited my excitement to get my Begins suit together. Both are really rare finds that most of us haven't seen before. To get them both at the same time was quite lucky on my part. :D
 
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Over the last several weeks I have been chatting with someone of interest in the UK. He has now helped me with the final piece of the screen accurate cape puzzle - the pattern.

The correct pattern has been elusive to us for 4 years now. But I will in the coming weeks have the Christian Bale walking cape pattern in my possession. Cool thing is the pattern is the same for Begins and TDK. Just different connectors to the suit.

All I can say is that we've seen some fantastic fan made Begins/TDK capes but we've all been way off in terms of accuracy. :lol I was surprised.

And something I wasn't really seeking out but landed in my lap via the same source are THE Begins cape clips. Cast off screen used.

These new developments have really re-ignited my excitement to get my Begins suit together. Both are really rare finds that most of us haven't seen before. To get them both at the same time was quite lucky on my part. :D
 
I never thought to count.:lol Maybe I can next time it's laid out. And laying it out isn't as easy it sounds. This thing is massive.
 
Sorry for the slow updates, guys. Been working for weeks to perfect this pattern and I am finally there. :coffee
Been going through this thing pretty much stitch by stitch to ensure the utmost screen accuracy. Thankfully the final capes will be sewn by professionals and not by me personally. :lol

This pattern is not really what you'd expect. Even if you saw it spread out and figured out the overall shape it will not come out right if you don't know the overall picture and the inner workings. Brilliantly simple yet deceivingly complicated. I guess that's why in 4 years we haven't been able to crack it. Until now... :wink

Onto a couple of pics...
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Looks quite long but my wife is only 5'7" and in bare feet. It is made to fit a 6' Christian Bale in boots. Made to the EXACT specifications of the screen walking cape.

Also this is not the final material. Just been using something more readily available while we test the pattern. Don't want to make your prototypes out of something as expensive as electrostatically flocked parachute silk.

Now I'm back to trying to get a perfect mold of the screen used Begins cape clips. Pics to follow...:coffee
 
May not look like much but they were good enough for Christian Bale to wear. :cool Copies made right from the hero clips from Begins.

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They are bigger than most other clips I've owned. These were just a test pour and I did them too thick but wanted to share anyway.
 
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