The same has been said in the past about the political aspirations many folks including : an ex Hollywood B Actor, an Austrian bodybuilder, a succesful peanut farmer and some fella who may or may not have been born in Kenya.
Bad plot holes in good movies...
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Since Gungans are the (presumably) only other sentient life form on Naboo, and (presumably) about as plentiful as the human residents, it only makes sense for them to have a representative. I could see the Gungans selecting him since he already had Corusant contacts. Also to get him out of town.
DARKSIDE72
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red4
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Gungan council: "We hate this guy. Let's make him a galactic representative with more authority than all of us combined!"
Are you an unfortunate Californian who owns a "looks-scary-therefore-it-should-be-outlawed" black rifle?
Me too.
DARKSIDE72
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Nope but I feel for a brother who resides in that state...And I own a lot of scary rifles... No one should have to comply with that ****e!!!
SuperFLY
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they lauded him as helping save the planet and their race. hence the promotion.
he was made general in the previous film for the same reason.
that's not a plot hole by the way, it's just something you didn't like
the whole 'romance' was forced and awful yet i wouldn't call it a plot hole (other than perhaps who's right mind would she fall for some creepy hormonal teenager who's tugged himself silly thinking about her for the last 10+ years)
Not a plot hole, but basic physics: Stopping a bullet requires energy. When you slow it down rather than simply stopping them immediately it requires less energy, the T-1000 is simply choosing to use less energy/taking less damage.
T2 is the most beloved action movie ever that I hate. As far as I'm concerned that whole terminators existence is a huge plot hole.
Oh, even though we've already established that the war is pretty much over, turns out they had the hidden ability to create millions of magic nanites that interact seamlessly in real time and mimick any other form. Also they combine their intellect to create a combined AI. NBD. And they have time travel, but they are only going to send the one, because...you know. power bills these days.
The first one was self contained. They built the time machine out of desperation because they were losing and only had time to send one through before the humans busted in like an army of Kool Aid men. Humans sent one through to foil the evil plot and complete the time circle then blew it to ****. All of which is explained clearly in the first one.
The second movie...oh, it wasn't really over. They were just mostly dead and actually on the verge of inventing totally game breaking technology that would be totally unstoppable if you just made a bunch of those and called it a day AND another time machine...a comeback which resulted in the magnificent Hitler-esk plan of..."Let's retry that crappy hail mary last minute plan that we already tried and totally failed before. What could go wrong?"
I feel like if you saw it as a kid it was awesome because the kid was cool and rode a motorcycle with Arnold and the robot was magic and could make a sword come out of his arm. Try to watch it objectively as an adult who didn't grow up with it and the film could just be renamed to "Plot hole! (Starring Arnold Schwarzenegger)"
Oh, even though we've already established that the war is pretty much over, turns out they had the hidden ability to create millions of magic nanites that interact seamlessly in real time and mimick any other form. Also they combine their intellect to create a combined AI. NBD. And they have time travel, but they are only going to send the one, because...you know. power bills these days.
The first one was self contained. They built the time machine out of desperation because they were losing and only had time to send one through before the humans busted in like an army of Kool Aid men. Humans sent one through to foil the evil plot and complete the time circle then blew it to ****. All of which is explained clearly in the first one.
The second movie...oh, it wasn't really over. They were just mostly dead and actually on the verge of inventing totally game breaking technology that would be totally unstoppable if you just made a bunch of those and called it a day AND another time machine...a comeback which resulted in the magnificent Hitler-esk plan of..."Let's retry that crappy hail mary last minute plan that we already tried and totally failed before. What could go wrong?"
I feel like if you saw it as a kid it was awesome because the kid was cool and rode a motorcycle with Arnold and the robot was magic and could make a sword come out of his arm. Try to watch it objectively as an adult who didn't grow up with it and the film could just be renamed to "Plot hole! (Starring Arnold Schwarzenegger)"
This illustrates what I'm saying. If you look at the first movie as stand alone, then it makes perfect sense. It didn't change because there was never any danger of it changing. The entire movie was a self contained loop. The timeline he left was entirely dependent upon him leaving. It made it a really cool self contained snow globe of a story that became an ugly festering plot hole when more movies came in and muddied the waters with the notion that it wasn't a self perpetuating reality loop.
Axlotl
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I know I'm quoting a 2-year-old post, but I was there for STAR WARS in 1977, and it wasn't blue.
It was WHITE - with a vague hint of TEAL around the edges.
Definitely NOT BLUE.
He didn't just want to visit his kids in the US, he wanted to go back to living with his kids, in his home, in the US ! And I imagine he didn't want to have his kids brought to him, because of his criminal occupations and the bounty on his head after he failed to extract what he needed from Saito. With that said, skype could have alleviated the problem of not remembering his kid's face quite easily...
annanake
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ill give you that I was only like 2 and don't remember.
still not a plot hole just a bad attempt at a blue light saber with the crappy tech of the time. a plot hole would be why does R2D2 not just tell everyone hey I know the guy he lives over here in a cave according to my Intel. R2 never had his mind wiped,. and why did Obi- Wan act like he didn't know R2D2 with the cheesy " I don't recall OWNING a droid " its because they did not have that part written yet and kind of messed it up that's why .
Zombie_61
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First, we don't know that R2 knew exactly where Obi-Ben was hiding out on Tattooine, only that he might have known he was there to watch over Luke and would probably be somewhere nearby. Second, if you're a Jedi hiding out on Tattooine and the young man you're supposed to be watching suddenly comes looking for you with two droids you haven't seen in 20 years, it would be wise to "play dumb" until you determine their intentions; once Obi-Ben saw Leia's message and knew why they had sought him out, he dropped the pretense and immediately attempted to enlist Luke to join him on his mission. Third, Obi-Ben never owned R2--he was Anakin's Astromech--so there was no reason for him to remember owning him.
That being said, you're absolutely right--Lucas hadn't fully fleshed out the backstory when he wrote the script for Episode IV. Considering the amount of time that had passed between the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy, I sometimes think it's a bit of a miracle that Lucas was able to connect them as well as he did. :lol
:confused not a plot hole....
annanake
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zombie 61
im get you on the obi wan I forgot they decided to lie through there teeth to Luke about everything cuz it would upset uncle Owens sensibility's but he said he didn't remember every owning a droid I guess the astromechs he used were issued and he did not claim them again just a cheeky way of lying.
plus R2D2 went right to obi wans neighborhood so he seemed to have a decent idea of where he was going he didn't end up say 17,00 miles away or something they crashed close by and at the first chance he got he was headed right for old bens place ( i always figured Leigh was privy to the location as was R2 which is why he was sent by the princess in the first place she didn't just grab a droid at random and say here go find this dude on this planet good luck . .
and on bttf it was an unused plot I guess if Marty's dad would have realized his son was a dead ringer for his wife's old high school boyfriend then they might have had to bring his dad in on the whole time travel thing to show Marty was his son therefore changing the next movies and adding another time traveler into the mix . im just saying I would have a few questions if I woke up one morning and suddenly realized my 16 year old son looked exactly like my wife's last boyfriend and we had never discussed it especially with the change in his fathers personality . he was more assertive and confident.
also on the light saber colors any one ever notice at the end of attack of the clones when obi wan and Anakin are escaping they end up with each others light sabers I always thought that was a good real life like thing to happen . that mostly goes unnoticed ( I know not a plot point )
im get you on the obi wan I forgot they decided to lie through there teeth to Luke about everything cuz it would upset uncle Owens sensibility's but he said he didn't remember every owning a droid I guess the astromechs he used were issued and he did not claim them again just a cheeky way of lying.
plus R2D2 went right to obi wans neighborhood so he seemed to have a decent idea of where he was going he didn't end up say 17,00 miles away or something they crashed close by and at the first chance he got he was headed right for old bens place ( i always figured Leigh was privy to the location as was R2 which is why he was sent by the princess in the first place she didn't just grab a droid at random and say here go find this dude on this planet good luck . .
and on bttf it was an unused plot I guess if Marty's dad would have realized his son was a dead ringer for his wife's old high school boyfriend then they might have had to bring his dad in on the whole time travel thing to show Marty was his son therefore changing the next movies and adding another time traveler into the mix . im just saying I would have a few questions if I woke up one morning and suddenly realized my 16 year old son looked exactly like my wife's last boyfriend and we had never discussed it especially with the change in his fathers personality . he was more assertive and confident.
also on the light saber colors any one ever notice at the end of attack of the clones when obi wan and Anakin are escaping they end up with each others light sabers I always thought that was a good real life like thing to happen . that mostly goes unnoticed ( I know not a plot point )
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