Need and Abyss 4K UHD release.
AVATAR 2: THE WAY OF WATER (2022)
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That's the beauty of not trying to drown your cast this time round..
I love The Abyss..
And the Special edition even though its like a "Dummies Guide" but still a great movie.
Edit: when you take time to think about its core elements... Its the same story in parts.
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You never know It could be a classic..Cameron has mentioned, in an interview, that the movie needs to make $2billion return to pay for the whole thing
As long as there are ATAT and more AT AT oh not forgetting lots of Snow.
I've heard that works well in a "sequel"
robstyle
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That two billion budget isn't just one film, it's four films, alternate media, the investment to create technology and methods in filming, post production, CGI advancement, retooling and re-release of the first film, marketing and advertising, in park attractions.... I've mentioned before it's an investment that will pay off over time VS the initial film runs.
Until a term is coined I'll call it "multi generational investment"
Someone was wise enough to realize nostalgia affects people and a method to separate the nostalgic person from their money. People not born yet will see the third or fourth Avatar film in a theater, then want to see the first one, then want their kids to do the same... Of course we're skipping the current generation as that already exists.
Until a term is coined I'll call it "multi generational investment"
Someone was wise enough to realize nostalgia affects people and a method to separate the nostalgic person from their money. People not born yet will see the third or fourth Avatar film in a theater, then want to see the first one, then want their kids to do the same... Of course we're skipping the current generation as that already exists.
Pandoring?
robstyle
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In this instance, Pandora'ing
cboath
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Still, seems like a stretch. That's needing each film to pull in 1B in order to break even. The first Avatar had the benefit of it's shot in/extremely good 3D which was and still is unique. Not sure that's enough to hit the billion mark 4 more times on it's own. I guess we shall see in a few weeks though.
robstyle
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That's the thing, the return on investment isn't just on the films. It's park revinue, merchandise, home video, paid product placement... The two billion investment will make profits on the first films release. But of course Hollywood accounting will show otherwise to keep those profits out of tax eyes.
Rumor is part three exists in a rough cut. Meaning live action scenes may have been filmed and what's mostly remaining is CG and typical reshoots/pick ups as needed. That would leave part 4 and 5 remaining. I'm going to guess those films are about the children and young adult cast as adults.
Rumor is part three exists in a rough cut. Meaning live action scenes may have been filmed and what's mostly remaining is CG and typical reshoots/pick ups as needed. That would leave part 4 and 5 remaining. I'm going to guess those films are about the children and young adult cast as adults.
Only quickly skimmed over this, but just the title alone doesn't sound good.
Guess Cameron better hope enough people are still interested in this to make it worthwhile.
If this does totally flop, I bet that means he packs his bags and is done with movies for good.
insidethemagic.net
Guess Cameron better hope enough people are still interested in this to make it worthwhile.
If this does totally flop, I bet that means he packs his bags and is done with movies for good.
Disney's 'Avatar 2' Flops Before Ever Being Released, Report Says
Are you going to see 'Avatar 2' in theaters?
It's... wetter?
Nope; other than generically-pleasing imagery, I remain mostly stumped. We can only hope that robstyle is right - that they're holding back some spoilable, game-changer plot element. But if that's the case, its success will be heavily dependent on rave reviews; I have a hard time at this point picturing massive crowds flocking to theaters based on the advertising alone - even with the benefit of no major opening competitors.
Also - an interesting article in the NYT comparing the cinematic climate of 2009 to today:
‘Avatar’ and the Mystery of the Vanishing Blockbuster (Published 2022)
It was the highest-grossing film in history, but for years it was remembered mainly for having been forgotten. Why?
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Just to head off any overreactions to the click-bait headlines currently getting spread far and wide about Cameron's "wild opinions" on testosterone, you can remain calm. As is often the case these days, the line is being taken wholly out of context.
He wasn't talking in a literal, medical sense; he was talking metaphorically about toxic masculinity. And he wasn't talking about the subjects of his films - at all. Not his characters, not his plots. He was talking about his own behavior behind the scenes - toning down the aggressiveness of his directing style, and moving past "his era of F-bomb-laden shouting matches with executives."
That being said, the original article - in all of its context and nuance - is well-worth a read, and offers a bit clearer sense of where Cameron is coming from in approaching the sequels. I'm still not dying to see Way of Water, but I feel like his commentary makes me slightly more hopeful.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
He wasn't talking in a literal, medical sense; he was talking metaphorically about toxic masculinity. And he wasn't talking about the subjects of his films - at all. Not his characters, not his plots. He was talking about his own behavior behind the scenes - toning down the aggressiveness of his directing style, and moving past "his era of F-bomb-laden shouting matches with executives."
That being said, the original article - in all of its context and nuance - is well-worth a read, and offers a bit clearer sense of where Cameron is coming from in approaching the sequels. I'm still not dying to see Way of Water, but I feel like his commentary makes me slightly more hopeful.
Inside James Cameron’s Billion-Dollar Bet on ‘Avatar’
The director on spending a decade of his life — not to mention hundreds of Disney’s millions — to make ‘Avatar: The Way of Water,’ the long-awaited second film in his ambitious and risky franchise: “There’s skepticism in the marketplace. Can anybody even remember the characters' names? We’ll see...
www.hollywoodreporter.com
A marketing campaign of "It has amazing visuals!!!" is pretty bad. Like, almost box-office suicide these days. That's the standard praise when a big ambitious project stinks and the MSM reviewers are doing damage-control for the studio. (Do I need to mention 'Rings of Power'?) In the 2020s that claim is only an asset for something like the 'Top Gun' sequel, where they were shooting expensive practical footage.
If Cameron/Fox's idea of marketing A2 is to say, "It's A1 + underwater footage!" then it's gonna be a box-office bloodbath. They need to wake up. Even if the visuals ARE amazing, the public won't buy tickets over that alone in 2023. People might even walk out of the theater saying "In hindsight it was worth the $14 just for the visuals" but it won't be enough to get them in there first.
If Cameron/Fox's idea of marketing A2 is to say, "It's A1 + underwater footage!" then it's gonna be a box-office bloodbath. They need to wake up. Even if the visuals ARE amazing, the public won't buy tickets over that alone in 2023. People might even walk out of the theater saying "In hindsight it was worth the $14 just for the visuals" but it won't be enough to get them in there first.
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Avatar 2: Stephen Lang Explains Exactly How His Dead Villain Returns
Avatar: The Way of Water star Stephen Lang spills the beans regarding the resurrection of Colonel Miles Quaritch in the upcoming blockbuster.
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