AVATAR 2: THE WAY OF WATER (2022)

Meh. I'm just not as enthused about Cameron's fictional ecosystem as he is.

I still think the design of the blue Thundercats is an anchor weighing down the franchise. They aren't repulsive, but they aren't attractive enough to do the show justice either. I don't wanna look at them for 2 hours. I could be watching some other movie with real humans or more pleasing animations.
 
As much as I was looking forward to the new trailer, I have to admit that I found it underwhelming.
Same here.

I was really hoping to think “Wow,” but I didn’t feel that way at all.

It doesn’t look bad, but I’m not excited for it.

Also…maybe it’s just me…but a bit of the CG looked “off” to me. Like, obviously the Na’vi are CG…but they really LOOKED CG to me in this, especially that child one. Almost like how I’d expect a Pixar film to look if they animated characters in real locations.
 
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I was looking for a comparison..something I could measure it against and IMO the best example as a bona-fide movie not game related would be Luc Besson's Valerian..
This is purely based visually and for a movie that was made five years ago knocks the socks off this trailer. The opening scene alone is beautifully shot the characters look believable and the space war wreckage and destruction is like a collection of 70's mobius or Patrick Woodroffe images..

Its all a bit Too Blue if you ask me..

I do like the story in Valerian, its very French and the design concept is spot on..
 
I feel bad saying this, because I'm sure it represents an awful lot of honest effort from hundreds of highly skilled people, but after watching the trailer three times, all I walk away thinking is:

"Generically Beautiful Desktop Backgrounds: THE MOVIE"

Then again, it could just be a mediocre trailer. I've never understood why the people editing the movie itself are often not the same people editing the trailer, but boy, there are a ton of great movies with terrible trailers (and vice-versa).
 
Yeah, trailers are typically edited by independent crews.

The studios have a very one-sided POV on it. They credit the marketing efforts when a weak movie succeeds. They never seem to point any fingers at bad marketing when a good movie "couldn't find its audience."

I've always wondered what the results would be if the film's director/editors were putting together their own trailers and screening them to test audiences. Would they outperform the trailers coming from the marketing crew? It's tempting to assume they would. But that probably isn't always the case.
 
Four years of post with CG alone, the largest underwater film ever made, new camera rigs and motion control rigs invented one of which encompasses an entire studio, a few trailers released, and I still have no idea what I'm seeing in these trailers! Gut feeling is any footage not blue may result in massive spoilers. But these trailers are too much blue.
 
Cameron just likes the ocean more than the general public does.

I'm still guessing that this movie will be a decent earner but not enough for the huge production cost.

Sorta like 'The Abyss', another of Cameron's ocean movies. It was certainly not crap but it earned less than his pattern, despite being right in the middle of Cameron's most mainstream/profitable period. ('The Abyss' also broke new technical ground with the extensive shooting underwater - sound familiar?)
 
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