Attack of the Clones Review... Plinket at it again!

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Uh....I thought he DID do something creative.

As amusing as the "review" is, it isn't very creative. He is basically doing Roger Ebert with a funny voice and lots of swearing. So, while I found it funny, it isn't very creative.

Like Mic said, it's easy to point out flaws. It's a lot harder to create.

 

[OldKen]

His Star Trek stuff is spot on too, but the Episode One review was transcendant.

Can't wait for the AOTC-buster. I haven't been this excited since 1978!

Which is... really sad actually.

Bummer.

:cry

k

QFT. :confused

 

[Solo4114]

If you think that bounty hunter logic is flawed, you should hear the commentary track for the deleted scenes. They actually cut scenes out from the movie that feature Jango Fett in the same shot with Dooku because they didn't want Dooku to be revealed as the bad guy. Hmm.

1. Jango says his client is getting impatient in regards to the assassination of Padme. Nute Gunray tells Dooku that he is growing impatient that Padme is not dead yet, and Dooku gives him his word she will die. Ya, totally not the bad guy.
2. Dooku says to Obi-Wan in a very dark manner "It may be difficult to secure a release". NOT the bad guy.
3. Jango is seen landing on Geonosis, the HQ of Dooku. Not the bad guy.
4. Dooku is in league with Nute Gunray, the villain from Episode One. Totally not the bad guy.
5. Dooku tells the separatists that the Republic will agree to any demands they make and the Jedi will be overwhelmed. Getting a clue yet?

Oh, speaking of commentaries, anyone remember that Lucas said he would delve more on the prophacy regarding Anakin being the chosen one in episode II? In the end, all we get is "If the prophecy is true, your apprentice is the only one who can bring the Force back into balance". That's a lot more insightful. Maybe Episode III? "is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force?" Oh, now the prophecy says he has to destroy the Sith in order to bring balance. Talk about a last minute change. If the prophecy dealt with the Sith being destroyed thus bringing balance to the Force, why didn't anyone put the two together when they confirmed that the Sith are back and they have this boy who could possibly be the chosen one?!

And the Attack of the Clones commentary? Lucas says we would find out who deleted Kamino from the Jedi files. Do we? No. It gets so much better in the episode III commentary when Lucas pretty much says "if you connect the dots, it all works out".

He forgot to add "...in my head" to the end of that.

 

[phase pistol]

What's wrong with your FAAAAAAAAACE?! :cry

 

[Nataku]

It's easy to tear down what is.

It's a shame he can't do something creative with all that "energy".

Movie maker wannabe. Doing all he can to soften the blow that he doesn't get to make "his" movies. Sad.

Even his teaser is creative.

 

[JoMamma_Smurf]

What's wrong with your FAAAAAAAAACE?! :cry

lollollollol

 

[Hedjii72]

I'll admit, AOTC is far from perfect, and it's my least favorite of the 6, but I have yet to see a fan film, read a fan story, or experience a piece of EU that I enjoy as much a I like AOTC.

If it's so easy, why isn't there a fanfilm of the prequels, made the way "it shoulda been made"?

Sorry, I can't dogpile onto this festival of hate.

 

[Solo4114]

I'll admit, AOTC is far from perfect, and it's my least favorite of the 6, but I have yet to see a fan film, read a fan story, or experience a piece of EU that I enjoy as much a I like AOTC.

Generally speaking, that's damning with faint praise. You might as well say "Susie sweats less than any other fat girl I know."

If it's so easy, why isn't there a fanfilm of the prequels, made the way "it shoulda been made"?

Sorry, I can't dogpile onto this festival of hate.

:rolleyes

Well gee, how about because fan films lack the SUBSTANTIAL resources of the Lucas empire to even begin to approach the level of visual and ability to hire actual talent?

Come on, that's a straw man argument and you know it.

That's like saying when people complain about the Ford Focus being a piece of crap "Well fine, why don't YOU start up your own manufacturing plant and hire a bunch of engineers to design the perfect car if you're so smart!"

 

[cayman shen]

Hopefully all the hype over the TPM review won't go to his head, cause him to become blinded to criticism, and pump out a shallow, superficial, "can't-miss" sequel to his smash hit. That'd be ironic, huh?

 

[JoMamma_Smurf]

Hopefully all the hype over the TPM review won't go to his head, cause him to become blinded to criticism, and pump out a shallow, superficial, "can't-miss" sequel to his smash hit. That'd be ironic, huh?

I was thinking the same exact thing:lol

 

[SSgt Burton]

Hopefully all the hype over the TPM review won't go to his head, cause him to become blinded to criticism, and pump out a shallow, superficial, "can't-miss" sequel to his smash hit. That'd be ironic, huh?

:lol

Awesome observation! :thumbsup

Kevin

 

[Slave1]

Yeah... they hire a bounty hunter, who hires a bounty hunter

Yeah, that was dumb. A bounty hunter who subcontracts.

The reason behind this, of course, is that Lucas "needed" the plot to be thickened and added this superficial layer to the mystery, when there is very little logistics to it, and I really doubt the character would have done that.

The most creative thing about it is how he dances around doing an actual analysis and convinces people that he has.

I beg to disagree.

While this guy pretends to be a dumb serial killer and an off-his-meds pizza roll addict, in a very humorous way, he adeptly and succintly tears apart the Phantom Menace (and rips George a new one).

I have always talked about the gaping plot holes, the lack of a single character to relate with, and the logistical problems with the Trade Federation (basically a glorified galactic UPS) imposing a blockade and where the hell did they (or Palpatine) come up with the scratch to embark on such an endeavor. This guy, however, is far more skilled in articulating the precise problems that most Joe Schmoes don't even consider when watching the film. Most people will be satisfied in just saying, "It sucks," without giving much thought to WHY.

While pretending to be accidentally hitting on all the important flaws, he has definitely put a lot of thought into this, and the concepts he discusses are actually quite basic story telling mechanics. And he is quite right in the Phantom Menace not having much going for it even accidentally. There are huge contradictions in dialogue and even in the opening scroll, which he points out.

The prequels are pretty much eye candy without a lot of substance, and Lucas would have done well to have had this guy on board as a story consultant. Regardless of whether he could come up with story lines of his own, he would have been able to help pull back on the reins and said, "George, you can not expect people to accept these Fedex aliens to be a real threat." And the idea of the cloaked figure turning out to be Palpatine was about as mysterious as a Scooby Doo mystery.

Ultimately, this is why I consider there to be only three Star Wars films!!! Well, I guess I'd accept someone throwing the two Ewok Adventures into the mix if they really wanted to, but after that I draw the line.

At any rate, everyone should also check out this stand up comedian who envisions jumping into a time machine and killing George Lucas before he makes the prequels and essentially screws up those films. He does an excellent George Lucas impersonation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCjI...FCA88&index=44

 

[Contec]

Your link did not work....but this do.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCjIjsZp_Y

 

[agent5]

I really doubt the character would have done that.

But...it's HIS character! :lol

I do wonder though, if Lucas scours the net while bored at home and reads or see's any of this stuff and says to himself, "Man, I really didn't think this through enough, did I? I really screwed this one up!"

I'm sure the millions of dollars his films have made make it much less hard to take.

 

[foxbatkllr]

Anybody who wastes that much time and energy on something they hate is a waste of space. Put that guy out of his misery. He obviously hates himself so much that he dedicates hours upon hours to stuff he hates.

 

[Solo4114]

My bet? He doesn't. I bet he barely gives it a second thought. Why? Simple. I don't think he really cares much. I think he might be disappointed with how his vision was received, but I think the prequels really ARE his vision. They are what he wanted them to be. Even with the little tinkering he does after the fact (IE: adding the thruster misfire on Jango's jetpack), I think the prequels basically do exactly what he always wanted to do.

I respect him for staying true to his own ideals on what makes an entertaining film....I just happen to disagree with him. I think the success of the OT was largely due to its limitations and the fact that it was a collaborative effort, despite the myth of it literally being nothing but one man's vision. And all that is as may be. In the end, I suspect Lucas found the process and results of making the prequels to be a far more satisfying process than the OT, simply because he calls all the shots and he gets EXACTLY what he wants on screen. If you were him, if you were able to get what you thought was your perfect movie on to the screen, would you give a damn what a bunch of geeks on the internet thought?

Yeah, me neither.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Wow, what is the problem with the jetpack misfiring?

 

[Solo4114]

Originally it didn't misfire at all. I think the commentary has Lucas explain that they added the sparks to the DVD release because in the theater version he just stood there shooting at Windu. If he tried to activate the pack, I don't remember, but I think they added the sparks just to make it really obvious that the pack was damaged and to forestall any questions of "Why doesn't he just fly away?"

 

[Slave1]

But...it's HIS character! :lol

But that's the problem. A basic concept in storytelling is to listen to your characters and keep them "in character," not put them through the paces or do stupid things because you need them to.

This kind of logic, along with so many other things, is why the prequels are so bad. Unlike the originals when Lucas studied the epic story character architypes and put some real honest to god thought into what elements made a good story, he served up a platter of dog food and slapped a Star Wars label on it.

TPM isn't just bad as a Star Wars film, it's a poorly done story all around, and this guy really nailed what was wrong. I can't wait until he moves on to the other films and addresses things like, oh, I don't know . . . General Grievingass not even being a character, he's just kind of stuck in there almost as an afterthought.

 

[steveo]

Man, i was really hoping that the renewed interest in this thread was to say that the AOTC review was available now.