Assassin's Creed Movie (Post-release)

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  1. SOTI

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    In my opinion, this would be one of the few video games that could work as a movie... So if this is the case, kudos to Ubisoft. :)
     
  3. SOTI

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    Let's all just pray and hope a certain German "film-maker" isn't involved. I don't even want to say his name. It might jinx it!
     
  4. Solo4114

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    Eh, I think it's unnecessary. The games themselves are already quite cinematic. I don't see what a retelling with expensive actors would do to add to it.

    It'd strike me that any films would necessarily have to deviate in important ways from the games -- which is the classic "remake" trap. How far away from the source material do you go to keep the film fresh and not just a cinematic rehash of the game, while still retaining what people loved about the game? I think that'd be a particularly tough balance to strike with such a cinematic series as the AC series.

    Mind you, I'm not surprised at all if this has already been greenlit. It's a successful branded property. Why WOULDN'T Hollywood go for it? The marketing campaign doesn't even need a lot of effort. Hell, I can tell you the teaser poster already.

    Name of Actor at top of poster

    Partially lit hooded face, hand with assassin's blade, or full figure in center of poster.

    Date at bottom.
     
  5. SOTI

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    I think it's completely necessary. I don't game. I haven't owned a game system since Atari 2600, and that was my step-sister's. I do pay very close attention to art and graphics used in gaming though, and I think A/C is among the best, if not tops.
     
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    Not sure I follow your reasoning. Because AC has pretty graphics, you think it should be made into a film? Or because you haven't played the game (because you don't own a console), you want to find out the story? Or.....what?
     
  7. SOTI

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    For Pete's sake, I have to explain this?

    Really?

    Maybe I should be more clear... I don't PLAY games. That doesn't mean I am completely (or even mildly) ignorant of the gaming world. I am an artist and writer (among other things). Whatever video games are, they are, at heart, a story medium. I pay VERY close attention to certain franchises. It doesn't take a player to appreciate the concept behind some games, and to realize and want to see them in other forms enjoyed by more people.
     
  8. Solo4114

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    Relax, dude, I'm just asking you a question, and yeah, maybe you DO have to explain it if you aren't clear in your initial post. I have no idea what your familiarity is with the franchise, given that I don't know you from Adam, so when you say "I don't own a console," I can't help but wonder just how familiar you are with the franchise itself, the story of the games, etc.

    Regardless, I still disagree. You're entitled to your opinion, and I think it's a safe bet that Hollywood will give you what you want. I'm just saying I think it's unnecessary. Folks can play the game if they want the story. It's a well told story even in the context of the game. Games already being an audio-visual medium, it strikes me as redundant to turn them into a film most of the time. I think that's particularly true with games that tell their stories well the way the AC series does.

    But hey, you want to go see it, bully for you. I expect you'll get your movie soon enough. >shrug<
     
  9. SOTI

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    Really, you just caught me in a pissy mood. But to follow your line of thinking, we should leave ALL source material as-is? No more movies based on books? Comics? Old T.V. series?(oh wait, could do without that last one...lol).

    How about the reverse? What about all of the awesome games based on other source material? You just can't get away from the association. What I do get, and fear myself, is that far too few games are done justice in their big screen adaptations. Let's just hope this one is treated to the production value I'm sure we both think it deserves.
     
  10. foxbatkllr

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    I'm split on the idea. On the one hand I love the AC franchise so very much and wouldn't mind seeing it brought to the big screen if done properly. On the other hand I am very skeptical about Hollywood getting video games right. Resident Evil is the only decent video game brought to movie franchise out there. I worry primarily about two things - casting and story. Casting wise, I fear they might choose either some big muscly action hero or a skinny british teen heart throb in the role of Ezio instead of a relatively average (but good looking) italian man who can act. Secondly, I worry they will only skim the surface of the incredibly rich dramatic story in favor of shallow entertainment. No big budget directors either, please.
     
  11. Hecubus114

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    It doesnt have to be ALL source material, but yes, some things should be left as-is. Assassin's Creed is perfect how it is (as an awesome video game) and Hollywood is going to do its typical "lets make a movie of that will either suck or it will be good and we'll make sequels till they suck". Let the game just be a good game. They'll make a movie of anything popular these days. They made a movie of BATTLESHIP for ****'s sake.

    This isn't the 80's or 90's when you heard "Oh, they're making a movie of that?" and got excited. Quite the opposite actually.
     
  12. Solo4114

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    No worries, man. I get that way sometimes myself. :cheers

    To explain my view on translating source material...I think it depends on the source medium and the translated medium.

    Much of the time, we're talking about source material that is static imagery (like a comic book) or no imagery at all (like a prose novel). In those cases, I can see an argument for translation to big or small screen. Why? Because a film or TV show is a radical change. There are downsides, of course (eg., the film/show not living up to my mental image of the novel), but by and large, translation to the new medium is a fundamentally different experience -- and in some sense actually adds something that the viewer can't get elsewhere.

    Translating a TV show into a film? Most of the time I think this is a bad idea, and most such translations I've found to be pretty underwhelming. Especially given that many shows nowadays have bigger budgets and are produced to be more "film-like", I don't really see what the film version adds aside from, perhaps, a bigger budget and more whiz-bang special effects, at the cost of a MUCH more condensed length and far less opportunity to tell an expansive story. Unless the film is simply another bigger-budget chapter in the TV show's story (eg., Serenity), I don't think it works. Sometimes it doesn't even work as a standalone film when you do that (eg., Serenity! Great for fans of the show, meh for anyone who'd never seen Firefly). With older shows, I find that the changes necessary to "modernize" the material get back to the constant issue that you have with adaptations of how close/far do you hew to/stray from the source material. Usually that balance is off. It can work sometimes, but it's rare in my experience.


    Interestingly, the obverse -- taking a film/TV show and turning it into a video game CAN work (although it frequently doesn't). It can work because the translation actually adds a dimension to the experience: direct audience participation. I'm not just WATCHING Luke Skywalker pilot an X-wing down the Death Star trench, now I'm FLYING that X-wing myself! Awesome!! The sad part is that, most of the time, game companies do a lousy job with film adaptation games. Again, they work sometimes (I still think X-Wing is a classic, and even the old Star Wars arcade game is pretty badass), but most movie tie-in games suck. Although that's more down to them being cheesy marketing cash-grabs that producers were lazy (or financially hamstrung) in making, rather than well designed, thought-through games.


    So, back to AC. If AC had started as a film, and then turned into the games we have now? Holy CRAP that would be AWESOME!!! Not only do we get to watch Altair run gracefully across rooftops, leap down on someone and shank 'em in the neck with his hidden blade...now we get to DO it ourselves!!! Go in the game-to-movie direction, though, and right off the bat we're reducing the audience's experience because they aren't controlling the action. Is that a fatal flaw? Not necessarily, but now you've got a much harder job of adding value to the experience.

    Do you just re-tell, line for line, shot for shot, the narrative of the game? What's that add, exactly? Do you deviate from the game's story and tell a different story? Then why'd you tie it into the game in the first place? Just for the concept? The logo? The brand name? Do you try to subtly change the game's story so that it's mostly the same...but just a little different here and there?



    Of course, all of those are (at least as I see it) artistic choices and considerations, and that's not really the point with a project like this. At least, not in terms of who's dropping bags of money on the table to pay for it. The producers are interested in making money. Period. So to them, a film adaptation of AC is a no-brainer. It's a hugely popular video game franchise. Slap the logo on a teaser poster, and you've got internet buzz and anticipation for months. Free marketing campaign! And if the fans hate the film because it subtly changed this or that, or had nothing to do with the original game....well, who gives a * as long as they paid for their tickets? And if new fans of the franchise are created, sweet. We can sell them the action figures, the game collection, the comic books, the t-shirts, etc., etc., etc. Will it be a good film? Who the hell cares? It'll be "good" if it makes a boatload of cash.
     
  13. Jannix Quinn

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    There was a short film that came with a collector's edition or some such. It was pretty good, but I'm not sure it's feature film good.


    Actually here it is- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcE8xJkK6t4
     
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    I would think that Fassbender would be one of the better choices to actually make a GOOD game based movie. Short of having a "real" Altair/Etzio I think Fassbender is the best fit for the role within the VERY limited acting talent we have these days. But knowing Hollyweird the role will go to Tom Cruise or Seth Rogen
     
  16. EyeofSauron

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    well he also is the coproducer, so im pretty sure he has some say in who will be the main actor xD
    and i second that he is pretty perfect for the role, too.
     
  17. AdamNightmare

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    Three things:

    First, the writing on that site is terrible. Pretend you're a real journalist for cripes sake, and don't shorten things like "pic" and "org." This isn't Twitter, you aren't limited on characters. They also seem averse to having sentences begin with "The," which is totally off-putting and jarring as a reader.

    Second, the concept of video game companies using their in-house computer effects teams to develop feature films is a fantastic idea. It seems like using a team that is already familiar with the subject material and overall aesthetic for the characters and locations will lend itself to a very genuine game to movie transition. Great call by UbiSoft.

    Third, I don't know why, but I've long thought Eric Balfour (Eric Balfour - IMDb) would make a really good Altair, despite his limited acting skills. I see Fassbender as an Etzio, but not Altair.
     
  18. welshwarrior123

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    Really? I could see him maybe pulling off an older Etzio, but I think it would be nice to have a different assassin or even have a new actor take on the role. But then again he is a great actor, so could pull it off.

    I agree that the sites writing is a little off, but this was the link ubisoft posted and I didnt want to dwindle finding a better write up and possible getting jedifyed for waiting to long :p
     
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    I don't blame you for the writing in the link, obviously. It just bugs me to see bad writing in general.

    I think Fassbender is great, he'd be fine as any character we've met, but I see him more as the suave Italian rather than the hardened Palestinian.
     
  20. rodneyfaile

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    The * hunting scenes in X-men First Class told me that I will want to see anything Fassbender is in.
     
  21. TheDoctor

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    Meh. I wasn't a fan of the whole "Ancestor-in-the-future" part of the story. Why couldn't they just make a story about a linage of assassins? I felt it was along the same lines as a "dream" or "simulation" where it really doesn't matter in the end. I doubt the transition to film will make it any better.
     
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    I love Fassbender but definitely can't see him in this role. Now Fassbender as James Bond, yes!
     
  23. Risu

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    Yea, Fassbender isn't the right choice for the role. But I guess he's paying for the movie, so he can do whatever he wants. I swear though, if nobody complains about Arian Altair/Ezio I'll be pretty disappointed in the human race. The same human race that bemoaned the perfectly cast Jake Gyllenhal in the PoP movie. And yea, despite not being Persian or even Persian-ish, he was perfectly cast for that character.

    I don't even think they'd have to cast middle eastern or Italian for the character so long as the actor can pull it off, but Fassbender looks nothing like either of them.
     
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    That's where much of my opinion on Fassbender comes from. And it's why I think Eric Balfour would work. If you've ever seen Secondhand Lions, he's the Sheik's Grandson, and actually has the ability to pull off a person of middle-eastern descent.
     
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    100% agreed. He 100% looks the part.

    But can he act/Carry a movie on his own? And will people see it.......


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    My bet is studios will not agree. Same thing w/John Rhys Meyers (Guy from "To Paris...." & "The Tudors"). He looks the part VERY MUCH. I could see him playing a perfectly LOOKING Altair or Ezio. But, would people see it?

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    Look, he already has the hooded look down. :rolleyes


    But the difference is Michael Fassbender equals money. Maybe not boatloads of money, but much more money and name recognition than either of the two we are talking about. In a perfect world, the actor that looks just like the already conceived role would be perfect. They could act, people would care about them, or just wouldn't care about star power.

    But they do. Fassbender has much more power attached to his name than either Balfour or Rhys Meyer. I agree, they perfectly look the part, and are fine actors. But unless you can have some other big time actor take a role opposite Balfour or Rhys Meyers (Anthony Hopkins, Ian Mckellen or someone of similar stature), I don't think studios will cast someone like that, because they won't make money.
     
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    I'd like to see this feature a new assassin, maybe pick up after the end of AC3 as they left that wide open. I have to say the live action short they made "Ascension" was really good for the most part so if done right I could see it work.
     
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    Assassins Creed 2015

    Summer of 2015 is going to be epic for movies!

    "There’s been a killer addition to the Summer of 2015. Assassin’s Creed, based on the popular Ubisoft video game series, will hit theaters on May 22, 2015. 20th Century Fox is now on board the project which, at this point, only has Michael Fassbender attached to play Desmond Miles, the descendant of a long line of assassins who can relive the memories of his ancestors."

    ?Assassin?s Creed? Starring Michael Fassbender Will Be Unleashed Summer 2015 | /Film
     
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    Looking foward to it!! Hope they do Altair's story but I'm guessing they'll jump around history much more.
     
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    The first thing I thought of

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  31. Sundowner

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    I'd really like to see a combination of all the games but I'm sure it will have its own film spin on it
     
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    I'm convinced that he would make an amazing Ezio. Was he speaking French or Italian in Iron Man 2? Either way, it would be so cool.
     
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    as long as its not POP, that movie wasn't terrible but not good
     
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    God I hope not.
     
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    I am wondering why those chose Desmond given the ending of the 3rd game.
     
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    I'd assume that they are going to start at the beginning and it all started with Desmond.
     
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    Probably. It'll probably fill in a lot more gaps. This could be a very expensive film to make just in regards to sets and costumes.
     
  38. Astrokid248

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    I really wish they'd do a story other than Desmond though. He's bland and has barely any character progression. In fact, the way he gets used constantly feels identical to Anakin in the Star Wars prequels. He's a blank slate. That's great for a game, but crap for a movie. Besides, Fassbender does not seem like a good Desmond. He's kind of a bro, really.
     
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    I don't care much for the games, but that costume is well done.
     
  41. justinbauler

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    For anyone interested the trailer just came online. Being a huge AC fan I like what I see so far. It's definitely a good thing Ubisoft had a big play in the movie. Looking forward to the film

     
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    Yeah, it's a beautiful trailer. Unfortunately the music they chose clashes with the beauty of the cinematography, leaving us with an end product that is decidedly "meh"
     
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    Yeah, I think I'll pass. I still feel that the first cinematic trailer for the first game really established how to do it if it was gonna be a movie. Do it at wide shot for most of it where the eye is looking for the assassin in the crowd, moving in on mediums-wides as the assassin gets closer, close up on the kill before going back to wide when he disappears into the crowd.

     
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    Looks fantastic.

    Looks like they've taken the material, played with it but not gone outside the sandbox, come up with something that doesn't crap on anything we know, but gives us a new adventure to enjoy. On the big screen.

    That jump at the end...and the mid air flip as he falls from the wide shot...chills.
     
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    Kanye can take a hike, seriously do not like that music choice
     
  46. Father

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    My thoughts EXACTLY!!! I didn't know It was Kanye, but that music is definitely out of place for the setting. Whoever plugged that into this trailer should be punched in the nuts.

    Movie looks ok. I'll see it when it hits video.
    Never played it so I won't be watching the film with the anger of the gamer purists.
     
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    To be honest it looks fairly true to their universe, I will of course wait to judge but I have a lot of faith in the movie, if not the way Fox is promoting it.
     
  48. Wes R

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    Well they have to throw rap and hiphop into every movie and movie trailer these days it seems, as if that's going to bring folks to the theater.
     
  49. Vincent V

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    I played the first 6 games and absolutely loved them, so I'm super excited about the movie. I wish that the movie was sticking a little closer to the feel/atmosphere/story of the first game (to me it was the best suited to be made into a movie), but overall I still think the trailer looks good (and fairly accurate to the world of the later games).

    My one complaint would be..... DEAR GOD WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH THE MUSIC?!?!?!? :sick:facepalm:confused:cry:thumbsdown

    but yea... other than that... looks promising...
     
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