Ant-Man (Post-release)

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  1. Vivek

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  2. kiyominai

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    I got to see an advance screening last week and it was surprisingly entertaining. I am in love with the suit as well. I didn't think Paul Rudd was a good choice for Scott Lang at first but this movie totally changed my mind.
     
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    Rudd was perfect for this. Did anybody catch the Spidey references at the end?
     
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    Yeeees! I loved that reference!
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    The end credo scene with Bucky cap and wilson confused me a lot. Was the winter soldiers arm trapped in something?
    Also I'm not sure why but I completely LOVED the scene from the Cold War on the rocket, and the scene where falcon fights antman. Those moments made me feel like I was reading a comic book! I can't say how great a movie this was.

    big question: what did all of you think of the cgi? I personally loved it I thought it beat avengers 2 by a long shot because it wasn't trying to be so advanced which made it look so much more imperfect and lifelike.

    Anybody disagree and think this movie sucked? I'd be interested to hear why. However, I skimmed through the audience reviews on RT and about 85 percent of the ratings are 4-5 stars, so I think it'll do very well with audiences.
     
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  5. maffhewdc

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    Apparently his metal arm WAS trapped. And it looks like he needs help. Probably he was chained or whatever his metal arm can't handle. The CGI definitely blew me away. It did NOT suck. It was better than I expected. And I expected it to be good. Michael Pena was hilarious lol. I was literally stomping on the floor when I heard those words, "we got a guy who swings, we got a guy who crawls walls"
     
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  6. Timey Wimey

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    Film was so much better than the Avengers. Quite a few moments where it was trying to be serious but looked ridiculous but that feels like more of a Marvel theme than a problem with the movie. This was the first in ages where I was actually impressed with the Special effects. It wasn't because they tried too hard to make it look realistic but because something relatively new was being done with it, which I think is why we were all blown away by initial big budget CGI and not do much anymore. I'm usually immersed no matter what but here I was fascinated. I was far too excited about the Spidey reference but the final end credit scene was too vague for me to prefer it over a lingering shot of a new costume.
     
  7. CutThumb

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    I've been a bit behind with my films this year due to some home improvements but you know, after reading some of the reviews I did wonder if Ant Man was worth the effort. But as usual even Marvel on their worst day (and this definitely isn't it,) is a hundred times more entertaining and creative than most of the stuff out there. And as far as I'm concerned they've managed a small miracle with "Ant Man". After the serious handicap of loosing Edgar Wright from it, it still feels alot like his film.
    Yes its a smaller event movie than the recent epics they've produced, but that worked for me. Its very funny and humane, Paul Rudd nails it perfectly as the slightly ant'i' hero (!!!!), and he is well supported by the rest of the cast including a great performance by Micheal Douglas as Hank Pym. His digital early self was simply amazing to behold as were all the effects in this film, they are brilliant pieces of imaginative action.
    Yes,as an origins tale there is alot of back story to tell before we get to the main event but it does it with a strong balance of humour , inventiveness and a surprisingly strong human heart. This is by far the most family friendly movie they've yet produced (even down to the ants! ) and once we do get through the planning to the hiest, boy does it kick off.
    The sheer madness of the fight scenes is a joy to behold, for me they were on a level with Quicksilvers DOFP sprint sequence. And the scale of them is extraordinary, and brilliantly co ordinated. The cinema erupted with laughter at the poolside BBQ "blat" moment and the final incredible shrinking man trip was just visually stunning.
    I cannot see nor understand what some of the critics found to dislike so much about it, I just thought it was yet another cleverly done and wonderfully inventive piece from Marvel. Its not a SUPER HERO movie I guess, its a guy learning just how to be a normal one. And it integrated with the current "Avengers" universe remarkably well, the Falcon set piece was a surprise but again ,handled with humour and great imagination.
    I'd highly recommend it ,particulary to those RPF's with families , they're going to love the ant sequences (Antony and "Fido"). Those of a more serious comic disposition may hate it but to them I'd say make a little room in your heart for "Ant Man". He's a bigger hero than you'd expect!!!
    Two credits sequences, one you kind of guess was going to happen, but the end one made me gasp a bit in surprise .
     
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  8. renaissance_man

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    SPOILERS! I had to say that in-case anyone didn't realise this is the post-release thread.



    BRILLIANT.
    A more intimate story with some nice character moments and good historical connections to the Marvel universe. not to mention the fantastic visuals the team at Marvel and ILM and the other VFX houses did spectacular work.
    I was really surprised to see Falcon, with the exception of 2 trailers I avoid all spoilers before watching any Marvel film to ensure the surprises pack a real punch live whilst I'm watching the film.
    And WOW, the mid and post credits scenes were brilliant.

    The links into Dr Strange have also been tentatively laid with the look at the quantum world. I found that really fascinating and will be excited to see how they delve further into that with Dr Strange next year.

    Another win for Marvel, I'm already planning to go and see it again.

    Who is going to be the first person here to want to make a life-size Thomas the Tank replica after seeing this film?!!:lol
     
  9. Goonie

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    You can guess what happens...

     
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  10. CPTRogers

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    I loved the movie! It wasnt over hyped and I think that helped alot. It was/wasnt a serious movie, but a nice transition like GOG. I never had that edge of the seat moment like in some other movies but it was nice and interesting all the way through. Very smooth! The CGI was GREAT!! A big step up (CGI) from Avengers AOU, in my opinion. I like how they tied Ant Man in with the current universe and covered where he came from. It was cool seeing Peggy and Howard at the beginning. It liked seeing Falcon in the movie as well. The fight scene was really cool. Im glad Ant Man gave him a run for his money. He is going to make a nice addition to the family. Rudd was a good choice for the character.

    So I heard that little Spidey reference in there when Sam was talking to the Asian girl. "We have a guy who climbs walls". NICE!!

    Also they found Buckey!!!! Civil War is going to be EPIC!!!!!
     
  11. SmilingOtter

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    I loved it. A great mix of action, humor, and story.

    I knew the second time they showed Pym's key chain that it was exactly what it looked like. But I also expected the ugly rabbit doll to have a role in the bedroom battle. Oh well, batting .500.

    I went in hopefully optimistic - I had high hopes, so to speak - and walked out thoroughly impressed.
     
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    What model was the keychain tank?
     
  13. Seabass

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    oh man this movie was great. totally didn't expect to see Janet as Wasp at all, and now we can basically expect Hope Wasp in Civil War. awesome
     
  14. jcoffman99

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    With every fringe Marvel movie, I think this one will be the stinker. I'm wrong every time. Good flick. One of the few 3-D movies I actually enjoyed.
     
  15. Monkey67

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    Great movie all around. I would have to say it is the best marvel movie in a long time. Might be even better than the 1st iron man. Michael and Paul were fantastic in their roles.
     
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  16. kiyominai

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    The back story about Ant-Man and Wasp...that reminded me a little too much of Captain America and Bucky's story in the comic books
     
  17. Apollo

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    Made more than the Terminator debacle so far
     
  18. astroboy

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    I dare that it might be the best marvel movie.

    There are two Achilles heels of the marvel movies.
    1. Sometimes they have really sloppy plotting (iron man 2)that comes off uneven
    2. More often than not, they forget the scale they should be working with and they Michael Bay the final act (winter soldier. The wolverine)

    This did neither. It was tight, funny, and fit the character the entire way

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  19. yojay

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    Saw it in 3-D and then again in 2-D. 3-D was phenomenal. Second time through still holds up. Lots of opportunity to look and listen for Easter eggs. This is a huge win for Marvel and gets me pumped for all the other origin stories coming up.

    I was on the fence about building a costume, but my daughter is wearing me down.
     
  20. CPTRogers

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    Did anyone else get the Avengers AOU reference? "The Avengers are too busy dropping cities from the sky".

    Also I guess Hydra is still around???
     
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    I really liked it, and thought the things that matter for the future were put in place well (mostly the cast being great) but it wasn't a home-run like Guardians was for me. That said, I did see it with my girlfriend who is definitely suffering from some superhero fatigue, so the anxiety of whether or not she would like it may have tinted my experience a bit.

    One thing that did bother me though was that a lot of times it looked like the actors weren't even in the same scene. It was like every single shot was a cut back and forth from one extreme closeup to another. If this was intentional to sell the "scale" of the movie and Ant-Man's powers then that's pretty cool, but otherwise I felt a little claustrophobic at times, like I was up Paul Rudd's nose. Small gripe, but it reminded me of Thor1 and all the dutch angles.
     
  22. Goonie

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    Great flick. Had fun. But I hate theaters that don't sell coffee.
     
  23. The Mad Professor

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    I gotta say, for a woman in her mid-to-late sixties in 1989, Peggy looked damned amazing.
     
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    I'm still holding out hope that we will see some kind of Infinity Formula in play, and that Black Widow is actually much older than she looks, so that could be in play for Peggy as well. But in all seriousness that 1989 scene was one of my favorite parts of the film.
     
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    I doubt it's in play with Peggy, otherwise she wouldn't have been on her death bed, stricken with dementia in TWS.
     
  26. Jeyl

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    Grr, this movie. It's so refreshing, so nicely fitted with the MCU, so much fun, it pains me to say I really really liked it despite my qualms. Story wise, this movie cames off like someone used TVTropes as a literal writing guide. They were almost palpable in execution. As for the Grr part? Alright! *cracks knuckles*

    3...2...1... GO!

    • Super Smart Action Girl's role is squarely focused on her relationship with the male characters? √
    • Super Smart Action Girl doesn't believe in the male hero's abilities who than learns to accept him later on? The Lego Mo- Er, √.
    • Super Smart Action Girl leans to chill out and fall in love with the real male hero of the film? The Le- GAWDDANGIT! √
    • Male characters insist that Super Smart Action Girl is vital to the plan when she is in fact more useless* than a Stan Lee cameo? √
    • Fridging female** characters to motivate the male hero into action? √
    • Have one of the most well established members of the Avengers outside the movies be reduced so much that she wasn't worthy of an on-screen face? √
    • Damsel in distress? √
    • Have the male hero succeed where another Super Smart Action Girl failed? √
    • Kevin Feige says "our films have been full of smart, intelligent, powerful women.” close to a Marvel Movie Premier? √fi°⁄‹‚·$#!€⁄›·@%^

    Three and a half years... I hate you Kevin and your Spiderman too.

    *She's there to distract the bad guy. Why can't Pym do this himself?
    ** These flying ants are supposed to be female. Yep. Marvel is so biased they'll gender flip all the ants to be male characters.
     
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  27. harrisonp

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    Yeah :( just wishful thinking/joking really.
     
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    After a full 8.5 hours sleep I fell asleep during the movie because this right here.
     
  29. firesprite

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    I saw it last night and overall quite enjoyed it. I thought it was fun and had some great moments in it. The Thomas the Tank Engine bit, for example lost NONE of its punch even after seeing it multiple times in trailers.

    I don't have any problem with past Wasp's fate, because I could see this being Marvel's way of opening the door to introducing the Microverse and having Hope rescue her mother. However... I think this could have very easily been a Wasp film rather than a Scott Lang Ant-Man film with Janet's comic origin story:

    Janet van Dyne was born in Cresskill, New Jersey, the socialite daughter of wealthy scientist Vernon van Dyne. When her father is killed by an alien entity unleashed during one of his experiments, Janet turns to his associate Dr. Henry "Hank" Pym for aid and convinces him to help her. In order to avenge her father’s death, she undergoes a biochemical procedure that grants her the ability to grow wings upon shrinking under four feet tall and uses a supply of “Pym particles” by which to change her size. Together, she and Ant-Man defeat the alien and avenge her father. Janet decides to remain as Wasp and be Hank’s partner as she has fallen in love with, though Hank initially rejects her feelings due to the similarities between her and his first wife that had been murdered.

    Tell me that wouldn't have been a fun movie.

    At any rate, I did very much enjoy the movie and I was pleased with the creative use of the Ant-Man powers that were on display.
     
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    Far, far better than Age Of Ultron. Very funny and perfectly cast. Luis was awesome! Love the way he tells a story, not to mention he probaly is a superhero with his one punch knockouts!

    Worst parts of the film for me...

    1) Evangiline Lilly's haircut.

    2) 2nd worst ant death in a film. RIP Antony.
     
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    Second worst? What's first?!
     
  32. MooCriket

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    That poor little ant who willingly sacrificed his life fighting a scorpion for those brat kids (Honey, I Shrunk The Kids). Disney hates ants..and Dads.
     
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    Picked up my screen accurate prop today. Well, I took it from my 6 year old. Lol
     

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    I was wondering why they brought back Cate Blanchett's wig from Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. Is it an elf thing?
     
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    Haha! I know right? What about that restroom death scene? Wow. That outs to shame any other Marvel death so far, and even tops Jurassic World's flying Dino/Mossaur death scene. Poor guy. Turned into a blob of goo and flushed away like my childhood dreams.
     
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    Baskin Robbins always finds out.
     
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    Solid film overall particularly considering the production drama, though I wouldn't put this among my MCU faves. The action and premise were refreshing for a superhero flick, CGI looked seamless (with a smaller budget no less), and Paul Rudd was pretty amazing as to be expected. Aside from him and Pena though, I found most of the other performances uninspiring. A lot of plot points were fairly formulaic, common in Marvel films. This one felt like the first Iron Man but lacked the same coolness and charm. I just didn't find myself dying to see it again after I walked out of the theater.

    This movie did establish itself as firmly in the MCU without sacrificing the story. Loved the fight with Falcon and those end credit scenes :eek :thumbsup plus references to the Avengers, Stark family, Hydra, and Spidey for the first time.
     
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    I'm also looking forward to this in future MCU films. We definitely need more female heroes in the Avengers films.

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  42. Kerr Avon

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    OH HELL YES! Antman was FANTASTIC! I'd put it up there with "Iron Man" as how good it was. It wasn't perfect, but it was so great! Rudd and the whole cast shined in it! I'm looking forward to his return in whatever he's in next!

    There was ONE thing that was so glaringly annoying. After Scott was knocked out of the helicopter and was climbing back in, how in the hell did the guy unshrink and get the Yellowjacket suit on so quickly? From the editting, it looked like that was a few seconds at best.
     
  43. The Mad Professor

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    I will say that one thing that I found rather irritating was that they severely underplayed how painful it is to get bitten by a bullet ant. They weren't lying when they said it was the most painful there is on the Schmidt Sting Pain Index. They are called bullet ants because the pain of getting bitten is similar to that of getting shot. The pain has been more aptly described as similar to "walking on flaming charcoal with a three inch nail in your heel."

    The bullet ant bite reactions shown in the movie are more akin to that of a wasp sting (which rates a 2 on the index). That one guy should not have cried out once and grabbed his neck. He should have been screaming in agony.

    http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/2007/05/16/schmidt-pain-index-which-sting/
     
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    Also, MAJOR kudos to the SFX team that made the de-aged CGI Michael Douglas for the 1989 scene.
     
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    This is actually one of my favorite Marvel movies. It was completely different than what I expected. I really dig the heist movies so I may have a bias
     
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    A lot of times in these movies, and especially Agents of Shield, the crossover mentions feel really forced and name-droppy, but in Ant Man it was very organic and fit right in
     
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    I really enjoyed it as well. Some people didn't like the exposition, but I had no problem with it.
     
  48. Bigdaddy

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    Loved it! It was refreshing to see a FUN super hero movie that didn't get all dark and brooding for a change, I left the theater smiling. :cool
     
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    Totally.

    That is why I have more faith in this new star wars galaxy. I have the feeling that the crossovers will feel more organic. Mind you, it helps that the star wars films won't be released chronologically.
     
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    This is why I've been far more excited about even the least Marvel Studios release than anything DC is showing us so far. At no point in the BsS or Suicide Squad trailers did I get the impression that anyone was legitimately having a good time. Well... except maybe Harley and the Joker and I'm not sure they count since they're both bat**** crazy.
     
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