jedimaster
Sr Member
Looking good man . Don't forget the bucket of chicken. I'm used to seeing him with that more than not.
ANH Pyro X-Wing References - Mainly: Red 6 Search
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Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
Looks good. What are the dark bits?
Oh God, do I have to do that bubble thing too? Don't wanna.
Oh God, do I have to do that bubble thing too? Don't wanna.
Tamiya putty to feather the edges. Most of it will vanish once I finish sanding.
LOL. Depends. Actually to correct myself NONE of these bubbles broke the surface, but some were close enough that you could already see the bulge on a warm day. Is yours doing that? If not, don't bother; filling bubbles is a right PITA, don't do it if you don't need to.
LOL. Depends. Actually to correct myself NONE of these bubbles broke the surface, but some were close enough that you could already see the bulge on a warm day. Is yours doing that? If not, don't bother; filling bubbles is a right PITA, don't do it if you don't need to.
NICE. It already looks almost just like the Hero version I made from the Maxi Brute. Like that nose job there!
Wow, bubbles. Do I have to do that too? My house is old and has no AC.
Wow, bubbles. Do I have to do that too? My house is old and has no AC.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
Well, Martyn, we're heading into winter now here so I can't say... but in summer it'll be 35 degrees solid for at least 3 months. Guess I'll wait for spring, see if any bubbles come up.
And the lighter stuff on the nosejob is...?
And the lighter stuff on the nosejob is...?
Thanks. For reference, we get up to about 45 degrees C here in summer and this thing is living in my (tin) shed. I could already see many of these as raised bumps so by February or March I'd expect them to pop!! LOL. If you can't see them and your summers are cooler, don't bother. I'm just being a bit anal.
Looks horrible doesn't it? First coat of putty is on now, and I'll do a second before sanding. Looks much better already.
Colin, that's white Milliput. Ah - winter. Your bubbles will shrink, causing horrible golf-ball surfaces! You're doomed! DOOMED!!! lol sorry, I have got to hit the sack before I get any sillier. 'night, folks!
Moska
Sr Member
Hello folks. I'm starting to planning my own 1/24 X-Wing and I was searching for the original kits on eBay, but the ammount of money just for only some small parts is too much for me. :confused
Do any of you know if someone sells resin casts of the small bits comming from donor kits for the 1 / 24 X-Wing? I'm talking about all the kit parts except Saturn V. :confused
If not, will be a very good help if someone can send me HI-RES images of all that parts and, if possible, with any good reference for size, and I will make them from scratch. :sick
I'm still with the doubt about what source will be my main reference. I have the Estes Maxi-Brute, but I'm not sure about if to use this, or if to use the blueprints from de 1/48 FineMolds kit. I read many posts about this question but I can't find a final resolution. :confused
Many thanks to all for the interesting info you post on this forum.
Best regards from Europe (Spain). :love
Rafael Mateo
Do any of you know if someone sells resin casts of the small bits comming from donor kits for the 1 / 24 X-Wing? I'm talking about all the kit parts except Saturn V. :confused
If not, will be a very good help if someone can send me HI-RES images of all that parts and, if possible, with any good reference for size, and I will make them from scratch. :sick
I'm still with the doubt about what source will be my main reference. I have the Estes Maxi-Brute, but I'm not sure about if to use this, or if to use the blueprints from de 1/48 FineMolds kit. I read many posts about this question but I can't find a final resolution. :confused
Many thanks to all for the interesting info you post on this forum.
Best regards from Europe (Spain). :love
Rafael Mateo
Hi Rafael. Welcome to the RPF. There's a lot of good information in here on creating your own X. Might want to pop over and read this entire thread which is currently on page 1.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/hero-x-wing-build-48646/
My own scratchbuild is not as far along, but I have the majority of the X research here linked in the first post.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/1-24-hero-x-wing-build-73828/
I was thinking about selling duplicates of these from my scratchbuild here if there was interest? Dare I say some of you guys could 'upgrade' your Pyros.
EDIT: Old photo... chipping on engine has been dun.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/hero-x-wing-build-48646/
My own scratchbuild is not as far along, but I have the majority of the X research here linked in the first post.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/1-24-hero-x-wing-build-73828/
I was thinking about selling duplicates of these from my scratchbuild here if there was interest? Dare I say some of you guys could 'upgrade' your Pyros.
EDIT: Old photo... chipping on engine has been dun.
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More about cutting tubes for the guns.
K&S who sells the brass tubing also sells a small tube cutter for the tubing.
I did not know this. Makes cutting the tubes easy.
Tubing Cutter (k+s296) K-S Bending Cutting Tools
K&S who sells the brass tubing also sells a small tube cutter for the tubing.
I did not know this. Makes cutting the tubes easy.
Tubing Cutter (k+s296) K-S Bending Cutting Tools
Moska
Sr Member
Hi IncrediPaul.Hi Rafael. Welcome to the RPF. There's a lot of good information in here on creating your own X. Might want to pop over and read this entire thread which is currently on page 1.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/hero-x-wing-build-48646/
My own scratchbuild is not as far along, but I have the majority of the X research here linked in the first post.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/1-24-hero-x-wing-build-73828/
I was thinking about selling duplicates of these from my scratchbuild here if there was interest? Dare I say some of you guys could 'upgrade' your Pyros.
EDIT: Old photo... chipping on engine has been dun.
Many thanks for the all the great info you share.
I am interested in those duplicates, if the price is reasonable.
The droid plate/strip I could probably do for $25/30... not sure yet. I think our own BrundelFly did them for $25 over 10 years ago. Not so certain if I could realistically do the engines in sets, since its difficult for me to get 8X good pulls for one X wing. I have yet to price out any significant quantities of resin but will start an interest thread over in the Junkyard this weekend. Maybe they'll be a few bites, even if all of us X crazed guys have spent all our loot on the Pyros.
Meanwhile. Colin's doing some wonderful work over there in his V3 thread... as well as Beaz's awesome Hero conversion which I am very excited to see done up.
Just mark me down as one more crazy guy feeling vindicated. A lot of things that had already happened in my scratchbuild have matched up incredibly well to the production parts. BUT I'm still scratching my head on the fuselage canopy we've got here. I'd say the Pyro matches REALLY well. BUT its the width at it's front that is bothering me. To my eye it still feels barely too wide when compared to the Hero fuselage. As mentioned, the panel lines do not meet there, and looking at the spot for the droid plate we could guess these Pyro halves were probably not a perfect fit from side to side before assembly as a master. To me what is happening is the top of the fuselage front doesn't look parallel enough in front of the canopy... and this is resulting in a very slight taper that shouldn't be. Though, following the line of the sharp edge at the front of the canopy extending to the nose we find that edge is increasingly soft... there is undoubtedly some taper here already.
Meanwhile. Colin's doing some wonderful work over there in his V3 thread... as well as Beaz's awesome Hero conversion which I am very excited to see done up.
Just mark me down as one more crazy guy feeling vindicated. A lot of things that had already happened in my scratchbuild have matched up incredibly well to the production parts. BUT I'm still scratching my head on the fuselage canopy we've got here. I'd say the Pyro matches REALLY well. BUT its the width at it's front that is bothering me. To my eye it still feels barely too wide when compared to the Hero fuselage. As mentioned, the panel lines do not meet there, and looking at the spot for the droid plate we could guess these Pyro halves were probably not a perfect fit from side to side before assembly as a master. To me what is happening is the top of the fuselage front doesn't look parallel enough in front of the canopy... and this is resulting in a very slight taper that shouldn't be. Though, following the line of the sharp edge at the front of the canopy extending to the nose we find that edge is increasingly soft... there is undoubtedly some taper here already.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
LOl, sorry, I had to laugh there while reading your last para cause I'm actually just about satisfied with that fuselage top, after having banged on for 2 years about the V3 being too tapered there, and with too wide a canopy front and all the rest of it. I say 'just about', because I still suspect there's a slight stunted look to this fuse from some angles when compared to pics such as that first top/profile shot of the foreground pyro in the spraybooth pics posted earlier, so I have sympathy with what you're saying here. And pics like the one below niggle still, with what I can only call that slightly more drawn-out look. You may well be right, that the halves, through who knows what process, were brought in toward each other too much toward the nose. And then, yes, to get the nose to fit the smaller width at the end maybe it was necessary to trim the length by a few mm maybe, but I don't know, I'm just thinking aloud here....
Well, the board won't let me post the pic I wanted, as Ive posted it before. But it's Jason's top (ish) view of Red 3, if you're interested...
Well, the board won't let me post the pic I wanted, as Ive posted it before. But it's Jason's top (ish) view of Red 3, if you're interested...
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I know the photo you mean. I'm not sure if I am explaining this correctly as i see it, I don't think the Pyro fuselage as a whole is too narrow at any one point, but perhaps has some very slight width added right in front of the canopy. Anyhow, its really not a complaint... def happy with the Pyro purchase.
EDIT: Colin, was typing 'just' about the Pyros we've got... not analyzing your work done on the V3 thusfar. Sorry, I don't even know what X thread I'm in anymore. Your V3 has gone above and beyond others in nailing proportions imo.
EDIT: Colin, was typing 'just' about the Pyros we've got... not analyzing your work done on the V3 thusfar. Sorry, I don't even know what X thread I'm in anymore. Your V3 has gone above and beyond others in nailing proportions imo.
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Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
Thanks for the compliment there. I don't think the pyro kit is too narrow anywhere at all either. But extra width at the canopy front - if it's there - would make the ship look a little squatter, and it was this knock-on effect of possible slight squattishness that I was chiming in with...
Moska
Sr Member
I understand the difficulty of copying the engines ... uhmmm:confused ... but if I can't get all the parts I think don't worth it. I think I'll try to make a test from scratch. I've always funny with this type of work. I love small details.:rolleyes
Of course, it's impossible to get a perfect copy of the original part when working from scratch, but I trust I can get it very closer.
At this time, I'm fighting with the blueprints. It's a madness to trying to get a very accurate work. The FineMolds plans are not so good as I was hoping, and the MaxiBrute fusselage is too fat.
I'm trying to compare them with all my X-Wing pics and it's a real nightmare.:cry
I don't pretend to waste my lifetime on trying to get the perfection so, once I get a nice looking templates, I'll start the real work.
Many thanks.
Yes, I still am questioning this canopy. My eyes want to see a slimmer look here, but the recent Hero conversions here have me second guessing. Maybe I'm just in denial because all I have been staring at is the narrow Maxi Brute canopy. Undoubtledy greatly modified if it even came from an original at all. :lol
I waste plenty of time on the pursuit of perfection. I prefer to rationalize these feelings into a good as I can make it scenario. Unfortunately this can still mean some insanity. Getting it done right can often mean never finishing. I spent an entire night building a new and slightly different engine.
Then I realized, not only had I made the wrong combination of parts but I needed ANOTHER kit. Fortunately this freed up an extra bit to Redo my original pattern. So I cut off the already assembled segment only to realize, yes I did have the length correct already. It was a part placement that was off, so I redid that. Beginning of the night I had one finished pattern with goals of partial assemble of the other. By the end of the night I had no finished patterns. But hey, there's no deadline and I'm still enjoying myself. :thumbsup Its all up to you and your goals for the project.
IMO the Maxi Brute is the best place to start. You may feel it is too fat because of the narrow canopy... with steps down to create panel lines. BUT proportionally it is very close to original Heros. There are some useful views in my build thread. Trash any reference that isn't a photo of an original model. Everything else is second hand or an interpretation.
As this is a research thread for the Pyros I recommend starting your own build thread when you've got all the kits in hand. I know having my own thread has helped my build greatly. Most of us X crazed guys are in and out of these threads. With your own dedicated location for your build it may be easier to find and read. The more eyes the better.
OK, the nose proportions as it relates to overall length is something I have been thinking about too much.
What if the fuselage length is actually more consistent Hero and Pyro alike? Looking at the Edlund master, the nose has been slimmed, even if its only slightly. But looking at the inside we find the back of the nose part meets the surface of the front of the styrene bottom. The placement of the nose is less arbitrary this way... flat surface to flat surface... the only logical meeting point for the two. So this means the bottom has a somewhat fixed length w/nose, and we could assume a builder would mate it with the top for a best fit... with trimming only happening on the top buck at the front to seat the nose. Sure you've got to align the back, so there's still room here and at the nose mounting access point for some variation on the hero builds.
Despite my posts, yes I am happy with the Pyro.:cool
