ANH Pyro X-Wing References - Mainly: Red 6 Search
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Simon, you have them in hand already? You are a hero. That last pic gives us what I'd say offhand may be the best nose profile view yet seen.
I can just about guarantee Colin fell off his stool. :lol
We can incorporate that *directly* into our builds. Thank you!
I can just about guarantee Colin fell off his stool. :lol
We can incorporate that *directly* into our builds. Thank you!
jedimaster
Sr Member
Thought you pyromaniacs would like them.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
I've had these for 2 years, man! Posted some of them myself in the old x photo thread. Then Ging - the owner, at that time anyway - posted up some more from his collection. Sent you one of 'em the other day as poss. evidence of a vertical port canopy strut (on the one at the back)! But thanks J'master for getting them up on show here. We need 'em in here.
These pics are among the barrel-load that have always fueled my sense of there being a slightly more drawn-out look to original ILM pyros (and heroes), a sense I get from the tabletop pics too. And I think it's not just the nosepiece; it's also the fuse where it meets the nose. The upper line of the profile on these two pyros seems to be a little more horizontal just where it meets the nosepiece. As though the slope just shallows itself out a little about 5 mm before the nose piece. The Cerney and the V3 just keep dipping right down[/I. Whatever the diff, it's only a hair, but it makes these pyros look VERY assertive in the nose/fuse thing, the V3 and pyro castings a bit less so. That's just how it strikes my eye, y'unnerstan'.
The discrepancy I think I see could be due to these two being made from hero bodies, as opposed to the Edlund 'profiles' pyro master, but I don't know...
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jedimaster
Sr Member
Does anyone have any pix of the starboard side of the original pyro's? And please don't tell me these are hero bodies in the pix. I thought I had the perfect display for my pyro....but if they are not pyro's then it's back to the drawing board. Dammit !!!!
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
One reason we thought these may be hero bodies is that there's absolutely no evidence whatever of a seam along the top and bottom surfaces, whereas there clearly is on others. Wings are definitely pyro, of course. I can't upload the starboard pic I wanted to because I've already posted it elsewhere. I think someone posted it in this thread already, the 'red gun' pyro.
The red gun pyro is a port side pic...
I thought Simon thought these pics were new - I did, anyway! I have other 'swrealprops.com' pics but hadn't seen these before. Bugger.
They're pyro bodies IMO; they all have the protorps in the same location and the pyro underside panelling.
Simon, yes - go back and look at the Red 6 pics, there's a few starboard side ones.
I thought Simon thought these pics were new - I did, anyway! I have other 'swrealprops.com' pics but hadn't seen these before. Bugger.
They're pyro bodies IMO; they all have the protorps in the same location and the pyro underside panelling.
Simon, yes - go back and look at the Red 6 pics, there's a few starboard side ones.
ILMwannabe
Active Member
Many thanks for those great pictures! I've seen some before but not all.
The upper cans on one of those match the pattern on the Red Five hero (if the picture is not reversed), but it couldn't be the Red Five Pyro! (could it?)
The upper cans on one of those match the pattern on the Red Five hero (if the picture is not reversed), but it couldn't be the Red Five Pyro! (could it?)
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That's been noted before, but it can't be reversed, the various handed items visible preclude it. Would they have ever bothered to match the cans for a pyro?
BTW, notice the pyros and the Cerney all have opposite-handed can panel detail vs. the V3? Another hero-derived feature on the V3 there I guess?
BTW, notice the pyros and the Cerney all have opposite-handed can panel detail vs. the V3? Another hero-derived feature on the V3 there I guess?
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MonsieurTox
Master Member
You could be correct, I can't see it because of the watermark, but maybe the upper port can is the one with the bar. If that's the case, it's incorrect for Red 4 which has the 4 same kind of can, without this bar.
I know I have large copies of those pics somewhere, I'll check the cans !
Cans seem to match up to Red 4, at least i cant see the "stripped" can fitted from my pics, the raised bur detail is in the correct place on the right hand upper can too.
Then, we come back to that chip in the right upper wing, placement matches Red 4 perfectly, so unless Red 12 has an exact chip like this (sadly still no top shot on this bird) i still say its Red 4.
lee
Then, we come back to that chip in the right upper wing, placement matches Red 4 perfectly, so unless Red 12 has an exact chip like this (sadly still no top shot on this bird) i still say its Red 4.
lee
That photo of the guns parts just makes my brain hurt with the fractions and the millimeters.
So I reinterpreted it, color coded it and made sort of a worksheet for myself when making them. I realize part of the front gun tip is missing. Not sure where it goes exactly.
Anyway here you go. You might find it useful. Or at least easier to read.
So I reinterpreted it, color coded it and made sort of a worksheet for myself when making them. I realize part of the front gun tip is missing. Not sure where it goes exactly.
Anyway here you go. You might find it useful. Or at least easier to read.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
I stand corrected!
And thanks Mic for the dia. I'm gonna need all the help I can get with putting the guns together!
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
Oh, right. The one I've got must be flipped....
MonsieurTox
Master Member
Thanks Mic ! :thumbsup
