ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found
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kpax
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The FH may be a little more rough rusted in the pre images and have been cleaned, wire brushed and oiled in post.
The real gun would need to be oiled to prevent rust during production so it has a nice shiny surface like blued steel.
Painting an "Effed up for firing gun" could mess up cycling. Sure, lightly sprayed ? Eh,
Note the painted stunt gun. This is how a painted blaster looks in color. They wouldn't be trying for faux finishes.
The Han outdoors image in the sunlight is best for true color IMO.
There is a marked difference between the body and grill. Note the wear areas in the promo pics.
I don't see a black bolt in any images where there is light.
We know the scope was never painted. Looks the same as the HERO images in the PS images. The scope matched the Mauser body color in the photos to my eye.
Anything is possible but I'd be very surprised if the HERO was painted.
The real gun would need to be oiled to prevent rust during production so it has a nice shiny surface like blued steel.
Painting an "Effed up for firing gun" could mess up cycling. Sure, lightly sprayed ? Eh,
Note the painted stunt gun. This is how a painted blaster looks in color. They wouldn't be trying for faux finishes.
The Han outdoors image in the sunlight is best for true color IMO.
There is a marked difference between the body and grill. Note the wear areas in the promo pics.
I don't see a black bolt in any images where there is light.
We know the scope was never painted. Looks the same as the HERO images in the PS images. The scope matched the Mauser body color in the photos to my eye.
Anything is possible but I'd be very surprised if the HERO was painted.
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kpax
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Just a trick of the light. All the markings in the disc look different from different angles and lighting.
The dot here has a split in it which shows in other photos. Magnified in this image.
There is a lot of clipping in that image. Look how weird the grill looks. Highlights are all washed out.
kpax
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was it? The full body image? Never heard that.
Ultimately, the desired finish can be achieved either way. I was just trying to post my observations about the mag plate, mystery disc, flats, and the crossbar and knobs to see differences across the pictures. The thinking being that if the aluminum crossbar and knobs were painted, it’s possible that same prep work was done to the lower and makes the mag plate and disc make sense in my mind.
Might not be true, but is an informed guess.
Might not be true, but is an informed guess.
kpax
Sr Member
The pre right side image has a strong flash reflection on the “flat” surfaces perpendicular to the camera.
The crossbar “looks” like raw metal as does the flat mount surfaces. But the rings look dark.
The surface between the rings shows a bright flat like raw steel but it’s not.
The rings and cradle look like the scope.
The thumbscrews look to be iron oxide and have some of the telltale scratches but look “flat”.
A little oil and they would look darker and shiny.
The crossbar probably was not painted in the pre images. But if it was, a strong flash on a flat surface will look white. Prob not but possible.
I don’t think Carl does painting.
The PS blaster crossbar is steel and blued.
If the hero was steel it would have been blued as well.
The aluminum hero crossbar was probably painted by the art dept. They must have taken the scope on and off several times for different reasons causing the distinct gouging and scraping pattern.
Just my opinion for the moment…
I love this analysis. I'm with teecrooz still, the striking difference between pre and post-damage to the finish being the main factor, and the mystery discs existence altogether. I see blue-black on the lower, a black greeblie and then dark gray upper/barrel.
I also will reference how other blasters were decorated in 1979. The live fires were left blued and the upper and lowers matched in tone, with very obvious painted aluminum mounts. The Hoth MGC lower was dusted to blend the greeblies in and it's very hard to tell. Just conjecture but educated conjecture.
I can't help with the photo stuff, I painted my blaster lower all at once to "blend in" the greeblie. I'm actually still unhappy with my build so this is going to help me re-make the darned thing
I also will reference how other blasters were decorated in 1979. The live fires were left blued and the upper and lowers matched in tone, with very obvious painted aluminum mounts. The Hoth MGC lower was dusted to blend the greeblies in and it's very hard to tell. Just conjecture but educated conjecture.
I can't help with the photo stuff, I painted my blaster lower all at once to "blend in" the greeblie. I'm actually still unhappy with my build so this is going to help me re-make the darned thing
If I had to GUESS, then this would be my distribution of finishes:
Flash Hider: Rusty/Parkerized (maybe painted during pre production, but certainly worn away by the Chronicles images)
Upper receiver/bull barrel: Painted over the original bluing, with the paint wearing away in the areas that would cycle/move (bolt, sight ramp, etc)
Lower receiver: Painted over the original bluing, with the mystery disc being a masked area of paint from where a greeblie used to be (glue also tore through the bluing/the bluing may have been scuffed to help the glue)
Crossbar: Clearly painted over bare metal
Thumb Knobs: Painted over original finish
Scope Mount: Painted over bluing (the Chronicles images make the mount look very much like it was painted, though the Bapty images make me think it was originally deep blued)
Scope: Blued, though worn
Grill: Black plastic
I suspect that the entire prop may have been hit with a layer of paint, with very minimal disassembly of the blaster as a whole (just taking the grips/mount off, essentially). But that's just a theory - a film theory
Flash Hider: Rusty/Parkerized (maybe painted during pre production, but certainly worn away by the Chronicles images)
Upper receiver/bull barrel: Painted over the original bluing, with the paint wearing away in the areas that would cycle/move (bolt, sight ramp, etc)
Lower receiver: Painted over the original bluing, with the mystery disc being a masked area of paint from where a greeblie used to be (glue also tore through the bluing/the bluing may have been scuffed to help the glue)
Crossbar: Clearly painted over bare metal
Thumb Knobs: Painted over original finish
Scope Mount: Painted over bluing (the Chronicles images make the mount look very much like it was painted, though the Bapty images make me think it was originally deep blued)
Scope: Blued, though worn
Grill: Black plastic
I suspect that the entire prop may have been hit with a layer of paint, with very minimal disassembly of the blaster as a whole (just taking the grips/mount off, essentially). But that's just a theory - a film theory
Note the position of the flash hider screw in these photos. The position in the pre-production shot does not match the others. The flash hider might have been removed & cleaned, and then it was mounted again in a different clocking position for the filming iteration, which was also used for the Muppet blaster casting.
kpax
Sr Member
Yes. No doubt.
The FH in the top view is also ****** to the right and twisted.
It was never on straight on the hero I think. If it ever was… it was luck.
kpax
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I know it was mentioned above about the mystery disc lip. Some may believe that the lip is caused by paint and there is actually a depression caused by the paint thickness.
If the paint was thick enough to cause a lip the surface would likely not be as naturally mottled looking like a worn bluing.
As Scott said earlier, glue can and does cause bluing and paint removal and discoloration. Would likely cause a mottled disc not coming off cleanly.
Anything is possible.
Has no one involved in the art dept creation of this prop ever been contacted and asked about it?
If the paint was thick enough to cause a lip the surface would likely not be as naturally mottled looking like a worn bluing.
As Scott said earlier, glue can and does cause bluing and paint removal and discoloration. Would likely cause a mottled disc not coming off cleanly.
Anything is possible.
Has no one involved in the art dept creation of this prop ever been contacted and asked about it?
Davy Jones
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The lip surely isn't caused by paint. It looks like glue.
kpax
Sr Member
Just for fun I made a few possible configurations of what the original blaster may have looked like before Ford destroyed it...
; )
Using the MerrSonn sight type build, phono disk and Merrsonn plug and additional side grills connecting the disc and rail.
Solo's blaster was suppose to be illegal or more powerful or something. Maybe needed more cooling? ; )
Feel free to try your own.
; )
Using the MerrSonn sight type build, phono disk and Merrsonn plug and additional side grills connecting the disc and rail.
Solo's blaster was suppose to be illegal or more powerful or something. Maybe needed more cooling? ; )
Feel free to try your own.
kpax
Sr Member
I know that we're all just used to this blaster as we've known it for so many years, but man am I glad that side greeblie flew off when it did (if there was in fact something there). Just a case of one too many things stuck on that gun, if you ask me.
kpax
Sr Member
Yes.
Likely all the missing parts are due to this being a blank fire and holstered prop.
Too many small parts glued on.
Surprised the grill stayed on although you can see some small differences and maybe broke off edges in some images. Maybe.
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