ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

[deadbolt]

Just now obtained these..

..Dull Mystery Disk (displaced greeblie) and Painted frame seems much more plausible now, I wonder if maybe it was the lighting that caused the Mystery Disk to look so shiny in some photos instead of being milled or a silver sticker, as per our other theories?

..I think I was wrong about the sticker theory now..


-Carson

2/2/22

 

[Vanitas]

Wow! Those images are great!

And it might just be me, but when I look real close at that mystery disc the 'lip' that so many people took to be the edge of a milled circle, now actually looked raised to me... Almost like it is a raised lip of paint from where a greeblie used to be. To me this almost confirms the idea that the entire blaster was hit by a layer of black paint, and that the 'silver disc' is actually the worn greyish metal of blued steel (perhaps it was slightly scuffed before the paint was applied?).

The disc took on a silvery hue (and the main body of the gun a bluish tone) when people upped the contrast/saturation of these images in an attempt to squeeze out more detail, and then never reverted t back to how it was supposed to me.

You can even see what looks to be globs of paint still on the disc.

 

[MastahBlastah]

Wow, what an incredible view of this prop!!! Thank you to whoever shared these.

Looks like painted lower to me, and unpainted upper but hard to say. Undeniably a paint ridge on that mystery disk. It does seem a hair more silver than the upper, and exposed part of the lower, but not so much as it's seemed.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Very nice! deadbolt thanks so much for sharing.

Ya the outer circular lines on the mystery disk don’t look solid enough to be milled that’s for sure. Honestly though I see the lower looks to be the same color as the uppers. Vanitas when u say raised do u mean this part? I think that’s just apart of the Mauser itself.

 

[Vanitas]

Very nice! deadbolt thanks so much for sharing.

Ya the outer circular lines on the mystery disk don’t look solid enough to be milled that’s for sure. Honestly though I see the lower looks to be the same color as the uppers. Vanitas when u say raised do u mean this part? I think that’s just apart of the Mauser itself.View attachment 1541690

That is the actual ridge in the C96 body itself, no. It's not what I was referring to. Along the edge of the discs there look to be raised portions of paint, presumably from whatever disc greeblie used to be glued in its place.

 

[MastahBlastah]

Agreed 1000% about those paint ridges! This is exactly how I've finished my prop (based on knowledge that scottjua has been heralding for a while now) and I have some of those same ridges around my MD.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

There actually a better angle that shows that ridge ur speaking of. I’ll see if I can find it.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

This photo here I’ve seen that same raised part that you are mentioning Vanitas. I think it’s what made people originally think it was milled at one point? To be clear I don’t think it was just stating that it’s been discussed..

This is another high res pic from this same photo shoot that’s been available now for a little while. Along with the ones deadbolt just shared my biggest take away isn’t how the MD is created or the lower being painted or not.. it’s actually how thick that center screw holding the mount to the rail actually is. I noticed on the PS blaster how thick it’s center screw was so that definitely got me curious. It looks like this hero prop had a similar thickness. Much thicker than I’ve seen people replicate it in the past including myself..

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Here’s a quick redrawing of this center screw. My old one (pictured left) was around 0.150 of an inch. I believe it’s actually at the very least 0.190?

 

[thd9791]

Yes on all of these counts, thank you so much for sharing!! My thoughts...

I do see a different shade of black on the upper. The paint they used almost has a blue-ish tone. The blackening of the gun is more black. They did this on the Hoth gun... wherever there were greeblies, dust it with a close-enough black and it will blend in

In fact, the paint seemed to rub off around the trigger

Also looks like they cut a rectangular notch into the bottom greeblie and filled it with epoxy.

I'm guessing places where there was paint and glue + handling some of the blueing came off with the paint.

Also about the knob, I'm surprised at how there's space under it. It's protruding from the cradle mount a little bit

 

[scottjua]

Per Mystery Disc: Here's my experience. When doing the live fires... I have had the tomtit grill greeblie come off after firing many times. Each time it's come off after bing epoxied on... super glued on... anything but the current adhesive I use... the greeblie would pull the paint AND the bluing off in the exact pattern of the greeblie's glue pattern. Complete with edges of adhesive and splotchy discoloration of the blueing on the steel.

This is just the residues and footprint of the greeblie being glued on and either fallen, or taken off. That's why the disc pattern can butt up to that chamfer, and we see a ledge in some light.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

thd9791 it ls really hard to tell just how far that screw actually sets out from that pic. It’s at an angle and the mount is rounded at the bottom. It’s kind of deceiving with that pic. It’s actually could be flush with the mount itself.. But it’s something to hold onto until better pics surface for sure.

I was thinking the exact same thing though. It certainly looks to come to rest a little off the mount itself?

scottjua that’s great info and certainly leads one to believe that the MD was in fact created from the remains of some unknown entity that was original in its place

 

[Vanitas]

The scope mount's screw sticks out a fair bit; I remember there was one image that showed just how proud of the mount it was. I'll try and find it.

 

[deadbolt]

I've never owned any of the other mount replicas, but I designed the DEC mount to have the center-screw that set away/off the body, as far as the reference we had to work from at the time, ANH, ST. This shows that the thumbscrew itself was a tad thicker in actuality as chubsANDdoggers pointed out. It took me forever to figure out a somewhat 'realistic' distance to go by for that gap though.. =b

Notice how far the Flash Hider is rotated off center from the barrel itself, despite being tilted too? I haven't seen many/any replicas with that detail..


-Carson

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

deadbolt no I didn’t notice that at all but ya it’s certainly rotated isn’t it?! Great catch! (Another little nugget to modify )

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Also I’ve never seen any replica with that twisted FH detail. The FH is only tilted because it’s lose on the BB though correct? There is no naked BB reference photo is there?

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

The scope mount's screw sticks out a fair bit; I remember there was one image that showed just how proud of the mount it was. I'll try and find it.

I’d love to see it if u can find it

 

[thd9791]

I bet the set screw place is a groove or ring. The set screw is fully seated it looks like, that would allow it to rotate...

Or the screw is just barely long enough and it's against a flat tube

 

[Vanitas]

I’d love to see it if u can find it

I still haven't been able to find the one I'm remembering (I think it was a straight-on view of the blaster, clear enough that the small hole in the booster/restrictor created to generate the blowback pressure for the prop to fire blanks was visible), but some of the new photos still show what I mean well enough.

The screwhead clearly has space between it and the scope mount's face.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

The screwhead clearly has space between it and the scope mount's face.

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That’s perfect. U can easily see it here. Thanks V!