Hi I offered to host a studio shoot for the model makers on this sub forum. The offer wasn't exactly received well. So thread locked, tempers calming, debate stifled, but fair enough, it wasn't much of a debate anyhow. And it set me thinking, why did most of the studio scalers (those that responded I should qualify) act with such suspicion and out and out hostility? I'm sure these were perfectly nice guys who clearly got on with others, so my approach must have been to blame. They were highly changeable in mood and direction, and clearly saw me as a threat of some kind, then I got it. Imagine I'd asked to borrow their cars. My car you are welcome to borrow, it is functional and unlovely and I don't feel much of a connection with it, and I'm fairly relaxed about possessions anyway. But imagine this car is a hand made hotrod, the car you've coveted your whole life. Some would be outraged at the mere request. A car is also a very personal possession, a hand built unique car even more so, and these guys were taking it very personally. I totally failed to recognise the depth of the relationship that these guys have with their models, and the jealous way they guarded them. They represent in some cases childhood dreams, planned then obsessively and tortuously brought into reality. I was also invading their territory by posting on this sub forum at all. And so I blundered into this emotional minefield, thinking of the models as not having yet fulfilled their potential, and generally failing to show sensitivity to some pretty sensitive people. Some kept repeating how expensive their model was, and insisting it had to be shot expensively, I now realise this was as a mark of respect, and my offer of a cheap shoot was in itself effectively seen as an insult to the model and it's owner. I only just realised how clumsily I dealt with you all and I apologise wholeheartedly. To me this was a simple matter, just get the right set of people together and play, I even suggested pyrotechnics! What these guys want is the most expensive shoot possible with their prized possessions getting the full star treatment, the way a mother might want the biggest, most expensive wedding for her daughter. I am not really willing to provide this service, this was suppose to be a fun project, and there seems to be little appetite for that. This description is not universal, I found some of them very straightforward to deal with. There may also be an element of the loudest voices not necessarily speaking for the silent majority. There is a pretty lucrative, very serious, highly stressful, project there for someone..........else.