Aliens Dropship Pilot Helmet

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  1. Star Wars Chick

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    I am planning to do a Dropship Pilot helmet build. I just got in my SPH4 and thought I would do a video series of my build. Here is the first video in the series. Aliens Dropship Pilot Helmet Build part 1 - YouTube I hope you'll check it out and subscribe to my channel for updates. I will also post new videos in this thread. For those who have gone before me and have done this build up, I am really looking to you for help and guidance and advice cause I am going to need it!
     
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  2. samster27

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    Love the excitement of opening a parcel. Really cool helmet and you wear it well. I am building a Pulse Rifle and I have about 10 parcels winging their way to me...it will be like Christmas this month.

    Looks like loads of reference will be needed for the helmet, hope the forum can help. Will be watching to see how it comes out. Great idea BTW to do a video build of it.

    Good luck.
    May the Forum be with you. :lol
     
  3. Star Wars Chick

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    Thanks! I am hoping the videos might be helpful to others who would like to do this as well.
     
  4. Birdie

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    :lol that was supercool watching you open that up all this time later!

    It looks like quite a few bits and pieces have been added to the collection since I mailed it on to the other guy.

    I would be more than happy to help out with this, if you can get some shots of all the bits and pieces, I can ID them, then we can get goin. The bit you dropped is the part that's actually cobbled together by myself from a couple dozen actual kit parts. Looks like there's some resin cast parts there too. :)

    It suits you a hella lot more on you than when wedged on my bonce :behave

    Si
     
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  5. Star Wars Chick

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    So glad you enjoyed it Birdie! I hope I can do this thing some justice! I can definitely work on doing, I would really appreciate that. Fortunately I didn't break that part, whew!
     
  6. Weequay

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    You just brightened my morning!!

    Looks awsome on you too.

    Are you married? lol

    Weequay
     
  7. Garthok

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    Love that helmet, and I enjoyed the video. it's nice to see other prop people excited to get parcels. I look forward to seeing it finished, you have the perfect look to pull off Ferro too
     
  8. clanger68

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    Hiya,

    Great video, I have no sound on my PC at work so I've no idea what you are saying, however you look very excited! :)

    Congratulations, on your new acquisition. :thumbsup

    I built one a while ago for my partner and I have to do another soon for myself, it is reasonably straight forward build but quite nerve racking when cutting the holes in the ear cups.

    I found underestimating the size of these and then increasing the size as neccesary was the best way.

    Looks like you have more right side greeblies than you need.

    Look forward to seeing further updates, if I can help at all just shout out.

    Which version are you going for, Pilot or Co-Pilot?

    Cheers,

    Andy
     
  9. RoCKo

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    It´s Aliens for you now, huh? After your Marine this should be fun... :):thumbsup
    Nice project, i really enjoyed watching you unpack the helmet, Kristen!
    I always wondered why my wife loves it when i unpack my stuff, now i completely understand her... :lol
     
  10. Star Wars Chick

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    Thanks so much everyone for the positive response, I really appreciate it! And if you think I look happy opening presents- you should see Art when he gets a package in the mail :lol

    @Weequay- :D I am quite happily married to Mr. Art Andrews

    @Garthok- Thanks, I hope I can do her justice

    @clanger68-I may take you up on your offer! Definitely going for Ferro's helmet. BTW, love your avatar!

    @RoCKo- It sure seems that way. When this helmet came up I just had to grab it. I saw a finished one at the RPF prop party in Calif. that Noble had and knew I had to get one eventually. So it is definitely an Aliens kind of year! A little aside- several years ago I got a casting of an Alien that I was going to try turn into a costume for me- how I was going to fit it I had no idea but I was going to make it work. But the casting of the rubber was so poorly done I sent it back and got my money back. So I was almost an alien too!
     
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  11. LDR

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    Hey Kristen sorry I couldnt finish (or start!) the helmet, though it will be a good project for you and more satisfying knowing youve made it!

    Just looked at the video....the white straw you chucked away is if you decide to make the ear parts from scratch...that tube is used for the screw posts on either side (cut down shorter)

    The clear tube you chucked is used to cover the camera release wires, slip it over them cut to right size and use the hairdryer to shrink to fit tight.

    The straw isnt so important but the clear tube is! Keep it!

    Also there are quite a few duplicate pieces. Some of the pieces you only need if you are making the ear sections from scratch. If you use the resin completed ears then you wont need these model parts.

    lewis
     
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  12. clanger68

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    Lewis, I was going to ask Kristen about the complete ear sections, but if they came from you originally I might as well ask you! :)

    Did you make them up from the parts and then cast a complete section, or did you 'obtain' them already done?

    Any time, and thank you - gotta love a Dalek. :)

    Cheers,

    Andy
     
  13. LDR

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    I made the left one from scratch on mine, and the right side i used a resin cast.

    I sent Kristen resin casts, they were made by Stephen210 on the forum.
     
  14. clanger68

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    Ah cool, making your own is fun, but a ready made one is a lot less fiddly! :love


    Here's a link to my photbucket page, there are some progress pics but not many, but they may be of some use.

    dropship helmet pictures by sterclanger68 - Photobucket

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Star Wars Chick

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    Lewis- seriously? I actually needed to keep those pieces? Oh crud! I am heading back up to Vegas tonight and will check my trash up there- I don't think I emptied the trash so hopefully they are still there. I seriously thought those were random stuff that just accidentally got caught up in the wrapping material and were trash. See- I am already * up this project! I guess I am going trash digging tonight, yay!

    And thanks for the photos clanger68!- *EDIT- I just had a chance to look through those- WOW, those will be extremely useful, thank you so much!
     
  16. Monster Dave

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    Cool!

    Hicks - "Elevator to hell....go'n down!"

    I always loved that scene with the drop ship.
     
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  17. GeneralFROSTY

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    Saw your video - very cool helmet. I laughed when you quoted the movie - just like a true geek, I love it!
     
  18. Heatshock

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    hey SWC - I am currently assembling pieces for my build
    I take it you want to do the Fero helmet vs Spunkmeyer?
    lmk if I can help - although I am mostly in research and acquisition phase at the mo'

    LDR - did you scratch a left side camera from spunky's lid?????
     
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  19. ShowMe482

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    This will be awesome! Can't wait for more videos, a beautiful woman building props! what more can you ask for?
     
  20. Star Wars Chick

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    @ Heatshock- yup, Ferro for sure. I most definitely will. I'm still doing the same- just bought a bunch more parts so will have another video I imagine :)

    @GeneralFROSTY- I couldn't resist. I felt like such a total nerd and could hardly keep from laughing. I wante to do it straight faced but utterly failed. I had some other vid where I grabbed my sunglasses that are somewhat of an aviator style and then I felt like Tom Cruise in Top Gun- started quoting lines from the film but I looked like such a goober I couldn't bare to put those in the video. Super cheeseball :lol But I had fun!
     
  21. Clutch

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    Does this mean Art is gonna be Spunkmeyer? :lol
     
  22. Star Wars Chick

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    :lol Nope, no helmet for him!
     
  23. marsattack

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    Hey Great Video!!
    I am still waiting for Lewis to do the wire for that helmet too!!lol
    probably silly question, but you are in the ALiens Legacy???

    Mars
     
  24. Star Wars Chick

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    I am! I just went and posted this up over there today.
     
  25. LDR

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    Star Wars Chick - Yes you need those pieces, well the clear tubing in particular. The white tubing you probably wont need as i presume you're using the resin casts.

    Heatshock - my mistake...i scratch made the right side, left was resin.

    Mars - totally forgot! Remind me again.
     
  26. Star Wars Chick

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    Gotcha. Well, both have been successfully retrieved from the trash can!
     
  27. Art Andrews

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    So... after three years of doing NOTHING with this helmet, we are finally ready to move on it... and I have a LOT of questions.

    First, I read ALL 40 page of the research thread on the Aliens Legacy board. For anyone following this thread, you should start there FIRST!

    The Aliens Legacy ? View topic - Dropship Helmet

    The Aliens Legacy ? View topic - Dropship helmet parts - anyone with updated info?

    These threads are also helpful:

    http://www.therpf.com/f9/greeblie-identification-needed-aliens-36203/

    After reading that thread, here are my questions (and I am looking at you @Birdie, @LDR and @clanger68!):

    1. In the kit we bought are these parts. None of them seem be model kit parts or go on this build. Can you ID them for me or at least let me know if I should be holding on to them?

    unidentified parts.jpg

    2. Were these parts ever positively IDed?

    unidentified-parts-1.jpg

    unidentified-parts-2.jpg

    3. In the photo above, is part 3 and part 6 the same part?

    4. @Birdie mentioned getting the audio jack from bitsbox.co.uk and then Bugstomper mentions getting the correct colored tan version... but I couldn't find either at bitbox. Is there a part number for these?

    The closest I could find was this: http://www.bitsbox.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=225_226_295&products_id=1554
    2.5mm-audio-recepticle.jpg


    5. In the list of kits needs, Bug Stomper (on the Aliens Legacy board) mentions that you need a "Imai 1/72 scale VF-1D Valkyrie Variable Type (Revell Robotech Orbot; Bandai VF-1D Variable Type)" but in the discussion, I couldn't find any mention of the parts needed from this model. What do you need off that model?

    6. There are a pile of very small screws used to attach a number of parts. Is there a known size for these screws?

    7. The back end of the hama cable looks like this. Are you just cutting this off entirely? Are you removing the inner cable or leaving it?
    hama-release-cable.jpg

    8. How are you attaching the hama cables here and here:

    hama-cables-front.jpg

    hama-cables-back.jpg


    9. I know there was debate back and forth regarding the camera model and there was some debate about a CL (closeup) not being exactly right. Was an absolutely correct camera model with ALL the correct parts ever determined?

    10. Was this part ever IDed?
    cable-tie.jpg

    11. Is there any way to get @noble 's templates?

    OK, that is it for now!
     
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  29. Wes R

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    Well it's coming from the EU so that's pricey and every online electronics parts place is pricey thanks to a flat rate which i think they do to get you to buy more stuff.
     
  30. Art Andrews

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    One of the things I want to do in this thread is summarize the 40+ pages of info found at the Aliens Legacy.

    While none of these discoveries are mine, hopefully having them all together in a relatively shorter thread will help anyone in the future.

    Part of the right ear cluster on both Ferro and Spunkmeyer is from a Takara/Hasbro Transformers G1 Megatron toy. It is a small plastic tube that connects the "silencer" (actually just a barrel extension) to the base P38 pistol. This piece does not appear to be significantly modified in any way. It is fairly readily available on eBay, usually as part of the silencer kit for Megatron.

    Thanks to TWF2005 for the great pic!

    aliens-dropship-helmet-megatron-silencer.jpg
     
  31. Art Andrews

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    Part #2:

    Also from the right ear cluster on both Ferro and Spunkmeyer is from a HASEGAWA 1:72 Leopold Railway Gun. Only a small part of one of the pieces from the model is used. See photo for details. This model is readily available on Amazon, eBay, and various other vendors.
    aliens-dropship-helmet-leopold-railway-gun.jpg
     
  32. LDR

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    Ok, so its been a while, but will answer what I can remember (without looking).

    1. Looks like you have duplicates here. The finger nail looking parts are for where the bike pump adaptor sits, so two of these go over the top. I think the two white circular parts are the bits that go below the bike pump adaptor. See here:
    [​IMG]

    2. Pretty sure 2 was off a motor bike model, but dont think it was ID'ed. Can't remember what 1 was off. The speaker looking part behind 1 was from the Polaroid camera internals.

    3. Think its a smaller version of the same item. From Plastruct. As was number 5.

    4. Think I got mine from a ALF member.

    5.

    6. Will need to measure.

    7. Believe I cut the end off and left internal cable.

    8. Cables just sat in place. Though cut hole in part nearest visor for the ends to sit into.

    9. Yes. Pretty sure it was a polaroid. Not sure which type now.

    10. Had to custom make this. Bent copper wire, and milliput ball or bead on end. Painted black.

    11. The link to the template no longer works. I did have it, but its appears it was just a link to the HTML page...which is gone :(


    Just found this in a text file I have:

    Three barrel part (left side):
    Revell - Robotech Changers Drifanddal
    Revell - Trigon
    ARII Orguss Variable Drifand
    Arii 1/48 scale Drifand Dal

    '7' Part (left side)
    Imai 1/100 scale Destroid Tomahawk
    Bandai Attack Tomahawk
    Revell Robotech Factory

    Cable front and rear stop. Double barrels, t-connector, double step, D shape (Both sides, rest of helmet):
    ARII Orguss Variable Fighter 1/48 (Caution! the Imai 1/40 scale Orguss / Revell Robotech Nebo kit looks very similar but is wrong!)
    Revell Robotech Tabor

    Long Ear Sections, Turret flaps, double barrel short (right side):
    Revell - Axoid Robotech Changers (1/72)
    Imai 1/72 scale VF-1D Valkyrie Variable Type
    Revell Robotech Orbot
    Bandai VF-1D Variable Type

    Track (right side):
    1:72 Hasegawa Leopold railway gun.

    Plastruct:
    LF-316 Mercury Vapor Relamp
    LF-312 Mercury Vapor Relamp
    TB-6 Butyrate Tube (Screw Posts)
    M-5 Motor

    - Gentex Corporation SPH-4 Flying Helmet with suspension liner (not the TPL liner!), no leather parts and M87 Mikrophone
    - Polaroid 635 Supercolor (Closeup version will work, but has the wrong lens frame for the sight unit)
    - Takara Transformers G1 Megatron Silencer Connector
    - Imai 1/100 scale Destroid Tomahawk (Bandai Attack Tomahawk; Revell Robotech Factory)
    - Imai 1/72 scale VF-1D Valkyrie Variable Type (Revell Robotech Orbot; Bandai VF-1D Variable Type) has parts for Smartgun Headset
    - Arii 1/48 scale Drifand Dal (Revell Robotech Trigon)
    - Arii 1/48 scale Orguss Variable Drifand (Revell Robotech Tabor) Caution! the Imai 1/40 scale Orguss / Revell Robotech Nebo kit looks very similar but is wrong!
    - Plastruct M-5 Motor
    - Plastruct LF-312 Mercury Vapor Relamp CP
    - Plastruct LF-316 Mercury Vapor Relamp CP
    - Plastruct TB-6 Butyrate Tube (Screw Posts)
    - Hama Cable release with metal mesh (+transparent heat shrink tube for new versions)
    - Airbrush/Ball pump hose (2x)
     
  33. Art Andrews

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    Thanks, LDR! LOVE seeing those parts put together, all from original pieces. That is what we are going for as well.
     
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  34. LDR

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    I cheated with the other side. And got the kit. It was too hard trying to get all the parts or make them.
     
  35. Art Andrews

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    I am sure I am going to have to do the same, especially since it seems like all of those parts were never completely IDed.

    I am struggling a bit with the two plastistuct "mercury lights." Maybe when I get them in hand it will be clear, but based on what I am seeing:

    LF-316 (1:24 scale) is 15/32" wide, just a hair under half an inch. While LF-312 (1:48/1:32 scale) is 3/8" wide.

    Looking at the right ear cluster, the part on the base of the cluster is obviously the bigger part (LF-316) while the part inside the Megatron silencer adapter is smaller (LF-312). However, from my measurements, the hole in the top of the Megatron part is LESS than 3/8" wide.

    I have both parts on order, but it seems to me that the LF-312 isn't going to fit where it should.
     
  36. LDR

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    Ok, I've just measured the light part inside the megatron piece and the top width (marked W on the link you sent) is around 7mm. Cant measure the lip part as thats inside the megatron.
     
  37. Art Andrews

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    That is what is weirding me out a bit. Based on the research from the ALF, that should be part LF-312. Plastruct has it listed as 9.5mm wide... I ordered it anyway. We will see when it gets here.

    BTW, thanks for the help and identification. I just placed my order with Plastrut (since you have to place a $20 order, I also ordered all the parts for the Rapier Sight seen on Spunkmeyer's helmet).

    BTW, in looking at part #4 in the photo below, I have to believe that is Plastrut TB-8 (1/4" tubing) while all the other screw posts are 3/16." That tubing diameter just looks a bit larger to me... possibly even larger than 1/4". Thoughts?

    unidentified-parts-2.jpg
     
  38. Art Andrews

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    A pretty easy step completed here. The old style Hama shutter release cables (hard to find) were plastic coated, but the newer models (easier to find) are not. There is a relatively easy fix for this. Simply slide 1/4" clear heatshrink tubing over the cables and heat them up.

    I was a bit concerned 1) about the fact that my heatshrink was cloudy and not clear, and 2) that there were some harsh crimps in the heatshrink. However, my fears were unfounded. Upon heating, the heatshrink became clear and the crimps completely disappeared. All that is left is to trim the excess from the end of the tube and cut off the back end.

    Step 1 - heat shrink off the cables.
    Step 2 - heat shrink slid on cables.
    Step 3 - heat shrink shrunk onto cables.

    hama-cables-covered.jpg
     
  39. Art Andrews

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    On the right ear of the helmet are two hoses that run from the cluster into the dome of the helmet. These have been IDed as bike pump hoses. I don't know where they come from specifically as a pair came with my kit. However, they need some modification to be correct.

    Step 1 - hose as I received it.
    Step 2 - screwed black plastic washer off left side. Pulled and then unscrewed threaded cap off right side, which freed up black plastic bird cage.
    Step 3 - black plastic bird cage does not easily fit over left end. I had to VERY CAREFULL grind down just a bit of the crimped collar behind the double serrated nut. After that, I VERY CAREFULLY heated the metal and black plastic bird cage to get it to slide into place. One thing is for sure... once everything has cooled, these pieces aren't going anywhere.

    bike-pump-hose-mod-1.jpg

    bike-pump-hose-mod-2.jpg
     
  40. noble

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    Here you go Art:
    3- Plastruct LF316
    4-1/4" Styrene Tubing
    5- Plastruct M5 Motor
    6- Plastruct LF312


    Send me your email address, I can send you the PDF cutting template.
     
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    So, this is one of the more sucky parts of the build. I wish I had taken "before" photos to show you what we started working with.

    EDIT: I think i found the previous owner. Birdie was this you?
    birdie-cuts-1.jpg


    The last owner started cutting out the ears free-handed, and the end result was wavy lines in the cutout. The one nice thing was that on this side the cut was undersized, so I had a lot of room for correction.

    Before I go any further, I have to wonder if Ferro's helmet was a "regular." I wonder this because I was surprised at the amount of material I did have to take away for the left ear cluster to fit... and even now, when I feel like I have taken away MORE material than is seen on the original helmets, the cluster BARELY fits. So, be advised, there may be sacrifices you have to make due to the size of the helmet.

    With the previous in mind, I started with @noble's template, but it was a bit hard to apply since there was already a cut on my ear. I finally gave up, printed out a number of pics of the original helmet and just eyeballed it.

    Another thing I will note is that the left ear cutout almost makes itself. How? In order to try to make it flat and straight, I used a large flat file and began filing away. As you do so, the kidney shape begins to make itself. Conventiently I had an extra casting of the greeblie at the temple and I temporarily hotglued it to the helmet as a reference marker. Using the boom mic hole, the temple greeblie and number of screw holes as markers, I used the flat file to work over the overall shape and I am pretty pleased with it. I will go back once more and check the shape before adding the base platform for the cluster, but overall, considering the sacrifices I feel had to be made due to helmet size, I am pretty happy with this side of the helmet.

    dropship-helmet-left-ear-cutout-01.jpg

    dropship-helmet-left-ear-cutout-02.jpg

    dropship-helmet-left-ear-cutout-03.jpg

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    Much, much less pleased with this side. Again, it was cut prior to us receiving it and this one was particularly rough.

    Edit: Here is how it looked initially, back in 2007.
    birdie-cuts-2.jpg


    Unfortunately, it was cut almost exactly to the right size, but again was cut in a wavy manner, which left me with little room for correction. On top of that, a full circle was cut, as opposed to a nearly complete circle, leaving a long stem coming down from the 12 o'clock position. On top of it all, this ear area is broken in two areas.

    I have smoothed it out, again, primarily using a large flat file, but it is still pretty wavy. I am going to try to repair the fiberglass breaks tomorrow and then see where things go from there. My biggest concern is that I simply can't continue to make the cutout larger...

    dropship-helmet-right-ear-cutout-01.jpg

    dropship-helmet-right-ear-cutout-02.jpg

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  43. LDR

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    Well it looks like its coming on nicely Art.

    I remember the hole cutting being the hardest part, even with a template. Very hard trying to draw a flat shape onto a curved area.
     
  44. Art Andrews

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    I think I may have a bit of a discovery. Based on this scaling, I feel very confident that the clip that holds the two hama shutter release cables was created using cut down parts from the mic boom. Now this image is of a short mic boom, but I believe a long mic boom would be just long enough to complete the clip we see on the helmets. Thoughts?

    wire-clip-dropship-helmet.jpg
     
  45. LDR

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    Good find. It would make perfect sense especially with the ball end.
     
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    Well.... @#$@&^%#*&%!

    This was going along SO nicely... and then I broke it. Guess I am going to try to drill the ball out with a dremel and then buy some easily bendable brass wire and go at it again. I probably should have heated the wire up instead of trying to bend it cold. Still, I am convinced this IS indeed what this part is.

    Will make it VERY easy to mount to the helmet, since I can just add a small countersunk screw into that bottom plate.

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  48. Art Andrews

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    Hmmm... wondering if this is right or not. The angles are off a bit, but right here it is looking a little large...

    View attachment 344064
     
  49. Birdie

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    Art

    Yeah, the original pics you have there are mine. My recollection was that I was basically building the helmet as we went along with the thread in AL. In hind sight that was a bad way of going at it, since so many discoveries and reference would turn up further along the line. The initial cut-outs and left hand scratch-build were about as far as I had got with it when I met my (now) wife, and I kinda lost interest in props for a while :lol

    A couple of years later I came back to it, decided I wasn't going to get it done, and the rest you know. It's a daunting build, I'll be following your progress with interest.

     
  50. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    Finding the right woman can certainly change your focus. It is a bit ironic that your woman took you away from this build and my woman brought me to it!

    It is indeed a daunting task but we are going to give it a try and see how it goes.
     

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