ALIEN ROMULUS post screening discussion

[Banzai88]

I'm pretty sure Andy told Rain not to fire the rifle because of the acid blood. If there was any danger of the hull being breached, it would be very foolish to have a weapon locker on the ship in the first place. The movie is weak on internal logic, but I think a bigger flaw is the lack of any explanation why the big acid hole didn't penetrate the hull.

It was a giant hole, and though the acid blood spill on Nostromo was tiny in comparison, it did eventually weaken within the ship.

 

[TheMechanic]

Regarding 'Aliens'... I'm sure that thousands of rounds of armor piercing rounds, dozens of exploding hand grenades, hundreds of gallons of acid blood, flamethrowers starting fires all over, the Xeno secreted resin gunking up everything and Ripley driving the APC through ductwork, pipes and structures had nothing to do with the reactor meltdown. LOL

 

[Astyanax]

Yeah, fair points...I think it comes down to misunderstanding what Bishop was saying.

 

[Birdie]

I remember discussions about the reactor on the Aliens Legacy boards many years ago

I think its open to interpretation, since it's never addressed in the dialogue. The firefight seems more likeley to me, I guess only Cameron knows.

 

[Bloop]

Unless I'm misunderstanding what the main issue people have is, I think the acid "plot hole" is just that the alien blood could breech the hull only if a lot of it gets spilled. That's why it matters how close to the hull they are. If you have any corrosive substance, say one that can eat through metal, it matters how much of that substance is applied to the metal. A small amount may only eat through part of the metal, but not get completely through, whereas a lot of it will be able to dissolve more material. I also assume the hull is thicker than the floors within the station. And I assume the acid would get dilluted by whatever material it dissolves, so the more material it goes through, the less effective it is.

 

[Banzai88]

Retro 'trading cards' posted by Fede

 

[Banzai88]

Surprised WY didn't just buy Reebok altogether.

 

[Treadwell]

Of all the things this movie needs, topmost is DICTION.
I couldn't understand half of what all the male characters were saying. Mushing all their words together. Even synthetics!
And it's not just because I'm American... I've read the same criticism from a BRIT.

 

[kristen jones]

Silly me, I made the assumption that when you take the chip out of one andriod and p

I should have said plot devices/plot contrivances. I'm going off one of one viewing of the movie that had terrible sound mixing and I was left guessing half the time as to what they were even saying.

I was under the assumption (silly me) that when she took Rook's disk and put it into Andy that he would know everything Rook knew. And if not why didn't they just ask MuThUr what as going on instead of plugging Rook back in?

In 'Aliens' the marines are told not to shoot or they may cause the reactor breach & melt down. They shoot, the reactors melt down. In 'Romulus' she is told not to shoot or she may breach the hull, she shoots 4 times what an M41A pulse rifle fires & nothing happens. And bullets do not just magically stop once they penetrate biological matter.

I really don't want to argue with those who enjoyed the movie. These are just my observations/gripes. I'm glad people liked the movie, I really am. I'm glad it got people interested in this world again. I'm just jaded, especially after 'Covenant'. As a 40 year Alien/Aliens fan I was just disappointed.

"And if not why didn't they just ask MuThUr what as going on instead of plugging Rook back in?"

Do YOU trust MuThUr? I doubt the kids did. Not to mention, the kids didn't have MuThUr clearance. They needed Andy for that--which is why they brought him in the first place.


"And bullets do not just magically stop once they penetrate biological matter."

Often, they do. It depends on ALOT of factors, obviously...but people get bullets lodged in them ALL the time. Not to mention these beasts have acid blood which can eat through anything. It's reasonable to assume the projectiles would be eaten before they exited.

I'm sure you have your gripes. People usually do, and they will stick to them regardless how many people point out that their gripes were addressed in the film. It's the usual way... can't please everyone all the time.

 

[kristen jones]

I'm pretty sure Andy told Rain not to fire the rifle because of the acid blood. If there was any danger of the hull being breached, it would be very foolish to have a weapon locker on the ship in the first place. The movie is weak on internal logic, but I think a bigger flaw is the lack of any explanation why the big acid hole didn't penetrate the hull.

Rook said (again, IN the dialogue) that it DID penetrate the hull, but that he had managed to repair it enough to maintain the station integrity

 

[TheMechanic]

"And if not why didn't they just ask MuThUr what as going on instead of plugging Rook back in?"

Do YOU trust MuThUr? I doubt the kids did.


"And bullets do not just magically stop once they penetrate biological matter."

Often, they do. It depends on ALOT of factors, obviously...but people get bullets lodged in the ALL the time. Not to mention these beasts have acid blood which can eat through anything. It's reasonable to assume the projectiles would be eaten before they exited.

I'm sure you have your gripes. people looking to gripe usually do, and they will stick to them regardless how many people point out that their "gripes" were addressed in the film. It's the usual way... can't p[lease everyone all the time.

I always know I'm in trouble when my notifications say "Kristen Jones quoted you." Haha! It's all good. There was stuff I liked about the movie too believe it or not.

 

[kristen jones]

It was a giant hole, and though the acid blood spill on Nostromo was tiny in comparison, it did eventually weaken within the ship.

Rook literally said that he had managed to repair the breech in the hull.

 

[kristen jones]

I always know I'm in trouble when my notifications say "Kristen Jones quoted you." Haha! It's all good. There was stuff I liked about the movie too believe it or not.

fair enough. Not every movie is perfect, and this one wasn't either. I just felt it was FAR better than Ressurection, and even slightly better than the Assembly Cut of Alien3.

And I'm grateful it didn't go the way that the last Predator movie went (not "Prey", but "The Predator") which was horrid from top to bottom.

 

[TheMechanic]

fair enough. Not every movie is perfect, and this one wasn't either. I just felt it was FAR better than Ressurection, and even slightly better than the Assembly Cut of Alien3.

And I'm grateful it didn't go the way that the last Predator movie went (not "Prey", but "The Predator") which was horrid from top to bottom.

I agree with all of that.

 

[Birdie]

Rook said (again, IN the dialogue) that it DID penetrate the hull, but that he had managed to repair it enough to maintain the station integrity

Fair enough, I didn't catch that piece of dialogue. I didn't hate the movie, it was better than Resurrection. The production design and direction was really good. I didn't have any problem with the acting, or dialogue and I liked that we got to see the another stage of the alien gestation that we hadn't seen before. I hated the wretched deepfake, the incessant fan service dialogue and the restaging of scenes from previous movies and the lack of locgic in the setup. I'd really like to know whether Alvarez initially scripted all that stuff or whether he was under pressure from the studios.

 

[Jaitea]

Of all the things this movie needs, topmost is DICTION.
I couldn't understand half of what all the male characters were saying. Mushing all their words together. Even synthetics!
And it's not just because I'm American... I've read the same criticism from a BRIT.

I had no problem understanding & I’m from Northern Ireland, (UK)

J

 

[Birdie]

They should get this guy to do the next one...

 

[yaris]

Tired and repetitive, borrowing so heavily from all the Alien films before it, it never breaks any real new ground or finds innovation.

3/10

 

[kristen jones]

Tired and repetitive, borrowing so heavily from all the Alien films before it, it never breaks any real new ground or finds innovation.

3/10

Really?

Never breaks any real new ground? Really?

-New component to the xeno's life cycle, never before seen. (The cocoon)
-Explains for the first time how xenos can sometimes grow so fast, other times take longer. NEVER previously addressed
-Shows androids in a TRULY human and caring way that has never been shown before. David was cold and despised humans, Bishop was 2 dimensional. Andy truly cares...shows real human emotion.


"Tired and Repetetive"

Why? because there were people, in space, fighting xenos... like every other Alien movie? That *IS* what this movie is. How different would it have to be before the complaint would change to: "nothing like an Alien movie... completely forgets what the franchise is about"?

"Borrowing so heavily from all of the Alien films before it"

That was rather the point of this: to weave them ALL together and attempt to make a disjointed set of films scattered over 4 decades actually WORK together. I actually appreciate that Fede Alvarez attempted to embrace the previous lore, and attempted to make it make sense with it's individual components, rather than just saying "Fuk it, Imma do my own thing, and who cares about what came before".

Im sorry, but your one line review sounds tired, repetitive, and never breaks any real new ground as it relates to reviews.
3/10

 

[Birdie]

"Borrowing so heavily from all of the Alien films before it"

That was rather the point of this: to weave them ALL together and attempt to make a disjointed set of films scattered over 4 decades actually WORK together. I actually appreciate that Fede Alvarez attempted to embrace the previous lore, and attempted to make it make sense with it's individual components, rather than just saying "Fuk it, Imma do my own thing, and who cares about what came before".

Pretty much every review I've read has complained about the excessive, clumsy fanservice, even the ones that were positive. Flat-out copying scenes and dialogue is not 'embracing the previous lore, and attempted to make it make sense with it's individual components' it's bad, lazy writing.