TheMechanic
Sr Member
They must have made the decision in post production to do CGI over the face. And why did it look child size? Rook (appeared to me anyway) to be undersized by like 25%. It was just so janky.
ALIEN ROMULUS post screening discussion
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Probably too expensive to build and maintain. They also seem pretty flakey on the programming department in this universe....You could extend the argument to the other movies too - why not send send a team of Androids to LV-246, why not send a squad of android marines to the colony? I think it's part of the whole Alien movie philosophy - humans are cheap and expendable.Yes--please...
Also, why are humans mining in the first place when there's unpaid android slave labor available?
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Jodo
Master Member
I assume it’s because the synthetics are expensive to produce and maintain? But then they toss Andy in the trash and some rando in poverty can fix him…Yes--please...
Also, why are humans mining in the first place when there's unpaid android slave labor available?
Forgot to mention this, but my wife accidentally bought us tickets for the closed captioning show. They captioned stuff you could barely hear, and it was honestly kind of interesting. The first thirty minutes on the colony the PA announcer was called “a revolutionist” and anytime the facehuggers were making noise, they were referred to as parestoidic. Or parasoids. Something like that..
JediG60racer
Sr Member
Saw it last night. Enjoyed it as long as I didn't think too much about it.
Great production values, except for Rook and the baby man thing. That reminded me too much of Alien Resurrection and its weirdness for the sake of weirdness.
Nostromo space debris field should have been VAST. Not concentrated. And Big Chap should have been located by accident, far away from the debris field. Perhaps it was too costly to film another scene where the salvage crew bumps into him as they're leaving, and the shipboard AI detects the chemical signature they're looking for.
That WT would leave the station unattended is a giant plot hole. It's so important that we'll let the station crash into an ice ring rather than bring up employees to deal with it? Either this should have been an 'off the books' suggestion by a company synthetic, or there should have been evidence of previous attempts to conduct a retrieval operation, which failed.
Cargo ship should have been at least a little damaged. Or there should have been other space craft there like the Narcissus.
Agreed that the pregnant girl should have been left open ended to tell more stories, or have the ship crash on LV-426 to deliver the Queen to the Derelict ship near Hadley's Hope. I mean, if you're going to do coincidence to this level, you may as well go all the way.
I'm okay with the Aliens producing expanding resin cocoons and growing rapidly after eating people. But the order of operations matters.
I was *very* glad the slender man baby thing didn't go breastfeed off the mom, that would have been going the extra mile of disturbing, and I was 99% sure it was going there when he approached her slowly. Was glad he just fed on her body.
But then... since she took the super serum is she really dead? Will she spring back to life like the lab rat, mid transit and burst out of the cryo tube?
Great production values, except for Rook and the baby man thing. That reminded me too much of Alien Resurrection and its weirdness for the sake of weirdness.
Nostromo space debris field should have been VAST. Not concentrated. And Big Chap should have been located by accident, far away from the debris field. Perhaps it was too costly to film another scene where the salvage crew bumps into him as they're leaving, and the shipboard AI detects the chemical signature they're looking for.
That WT would leave the station unattended is a giant plot hole. It's so important that we'll let the station crash into an ice ring rather than bring up employees to deal with it? Either this should have been an 'off the books' suggestion by a company synthetic, or there should have been evidence of previous attempts to conduct a retrieval operation, which failed.
Cargo ship should have been at least a little damaged. Or there should have been other space craft there like the Narcissus.
Agreed that the pregnant girl should have been left open ended to tell more stories, or have the ship crash on LV-426 to deliver the Queen to the Derelict ship near Hadley's Hope. I mean, if you're going to do coincidence to this level, you may as well go all the way.
I'm okay with the Aliens producing expanding resin cocoons and growing rapidly after eating people. But the order of operations matters.
I was *very* glad the slender man baby thing didn't go breastfeed off the mom, that would have been going the extra mile of disturbing, and I was 99% sure it was going there when he approached her slowly. Was glad he just fed on her body.
But then... since she took the super serum is she really dead? Will she spring back to life like the lab rat, mid transit and burst out of the cryo tube?
I think because Andy mentioned it might help her survival chances?
kristen jones
Master Member
Your "plot holes":
"all the xenos killed before they got there"
--They killed ONE: the Big Chap. And his blood is what put that giant hole in the floor. The others in the hive came AFTER that.
"...she proceeds to shoot 400= rounds and it doesn't breech the hull"
--95% of them went directly into xenos courtesy of the aim assist. The ONLY ones i could be with you on were the few she fired to avoid the acid, but how far are they inside the ship at this point? Unless you're quite close to an outer bulkhead it's not going to go halfway through the entire station before metal slows the round down and it stops.
"Rook/Muthr's A.I...."
--It was "uploaded" via the disk taken from Rook. That gave Andy upgraded credentials, and also repaired his motor functions, but his core memory remained the same (he literally said so in the dialogue). they needed to ressurect rook to find out how to remove the facehugger safely from Kaye (they literally said THAT in the dialogue, too)
Sometimes i wonder if it occurs to people that what they perceive as "plot holes" might instead be a gap in their understanding caused by not paying attention?
Probably not.
kristen jones
Master Member
Their actions LITERALLY have consequences.
1. they steal cryo fuel, and as a result release facehuggers which kill some of them
2. one of them injects themselves with the black goo, and.. well.. we know how THAT turned out
3. there are alot more, but the point is that each of the characters' actions had DIRECT consequences.
IFW
New Member
Only premiered in town yesterday so obviously i went with the wife. All was fine until the artificial person line, the moment i thought oh no this is going to be one of those movies. It did not disappoint pfff. The basic plot had great potential, the screenplay was trash, the characters unrelatable.
Visually stunning movie. I wished the android had gotten them all killed but no he had to turn good again, the one solid character!
And the finale with the AR Skeletor based mutant... at least ripley didnt cut her hand on the creature's teeth to rip a hole into space, no, it was the mutant's shell!!!
Visually stunning movie. I wished the android had gotten them all killed but no he had to turn good again, the one solid character!
And the finale with the AR Skeletor based mutant... at least ripley didnt cut her hand on the creature's teeth to rip a hole into space, no, it was the mutant's shell!!!
Jaitea
Master Member
As soon as i saw the offspring i knew it had to be the basketball player Robert Bobroczky. Quick search later, it was actually him.
TheMechanic
Sr Member
I should have said plot devices/plot contrivances. I'm going off one of one viewing of the movie that had terrible sound mixing and I was left guessing half the time as to what they were even saying.
I was under the assumption (silly me) that when she took Rook's disk and put it into Andy that he would know everything Rook knew. And if not why didn't they just ask MuThUr what as going on instead of plugging Rook back in?
In 'Aliens' the marines are told not to shoot or they may cause the reactor breach & melt down. They shoot, the reactors melt down. In 'Romulus' she is told not to shoot or she may breach the hull, she shoots 4 times what an M41A pulse rifle fires & nothing happens. And bullets do not just magically stop once they penetrate biological matter.
I really don't want to argue with those who enjoyed the movie. These are just my observations/gripes. I'm glad people liked the movie, I really am. I'm glad it got people interested in this world again. I'm just jaded, especially after 'Covenant'. As a 40 year Alien/Aliens fan I was just disappointed.
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Tan Djarka
Sr Member
What can I say that hasn't already been said? Disappointed.
It's actually the dropship crash that caused the meltdown...
Bishop: "I'm sorry, the crash caused too much damage. An overload was inevitable at this point."
So in all fairness to Romulus, the marines fired their weapons and there were no consequences.
I found this online:
“Many think it was the dropship because of a remark later by Bishop when he said that the dropship crash caused too much damage, that an overload was inevitable.
But he was not responding to a question about what caused the damage. He was responding to a question from Ripley about why could he not shut it down remotely from colony operations center.
The dropship never actually crashed into the processor. It crashed into the ground short of the processor and the wreckage tumbled through and came to rest under one of the processors perimeter towers.
The cooling towers were on sublevel 3 and on the other side of the processor from the direction of the colony. The dropship crash could not have damaged the reactor and cooling systems.
Being in line with the colony though, the crash could easily have disrupted the communications lines between the colony and the processor.”
I'm pretty sure Andy told Rain not to fire the rifle because of the acid blood. If there was any danger of the hull being breached, it would be very foolish to have a weapon locker on the ship in the first place. The movie is weak on internal logic, but I think a bigger flaw is the lack of any explanation why the big acid hole didn't penetrate the hull.
TheMechanic
Sr Member
I was just going to bring this up but I got tired of arguing with people. Thank you.
