DivineHeresy
Sr Member
Could be a Royal Navy jacket?
Their Mk3's are blue rather than green.
Their Mk3's are blue rather than green.
Bill,
One thing i would say is that if you intend dye-ing a green one try these colours Grey--purple(Lavender)--blue. maybe grey first then build up the layers , smaller amounts of purple and blue, to achieve that effect. I've compared this colour to colour charts and nearest I got was Purple taupe. it even ties in with the pink trim. I saw another one of these recently on ebay but i was outbid. it was same colour but in poor condition. i think you would have to go to England and rummage in old army surplus shops, its only way, take a holiday! anyway see if this helps.
One thing i would say is that if you intend dye-ing a green one try these colours Grey--purple(Lavender)--blue. maybe grey first then build up the layers , smaller amounts of purple and blue, to achieve that effect. I've compared this colour to colour charts and nearest I got was Purple taupe. it even ties in with the pink trim. I saw another one of these recently on ebay but i was outbid. it was same colour but in poor condition. i think you would have to go to England and rummage in old army surplus shops, its only way, take a holiday! anyway see if this helps.
DivineHeresy
Sr Member
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Bill Froog
New Member
In the photo you posted, the jacket just looks like RAF blue to me (which is the colour I have already dyed my jacket). All I did was to use pre-dye and then a navy blue dye.
Luckily, I already am in England - I live here :lol. Sadly, the old-style army surplus shops are not what they were. Bargains are few and far between. Silverman's is expensive and Lawrence Corner is no more :cry
Bill Froog
New Member
That's OK, I'm not insulted by being mistaken for an American :lol
I believe jackets are worn by all services: Royal Navy (Fleet Air Arm etc.), Army as well as Royal Air Force. I think they all wear green ones now, but possibly the RAF or Navy commissioned their own in the past.
I believe jackets are worn by all services: Royal Navy (Fleet Air Arm etc.), Army as well as Royal Air Force. I think they all wear green ones now, but possibly the RAF or Navy commissioned their own in the past.
Bill Froog
New Member
Here's a good photo of Ripley from The Sunday Times a few months back.
stephen210
Sr Member
Excellent.
If you do an run please let us know. I would love some!!
Steve
If you do an run please let us know. I would love some!!
Steve
Bill Froog
New Member
For the benefit of those reconstructing the Dallas jacket, here's another photo of the rear panel unzipped.
The zipper is 11" long, the lacing just over 8".
The zipper is 11" long, the lacing just over 8".
Jonesythecat
Well-Known Member
Regarding their shoes, I think this has been previously discussed in that thread, no ???
Late 70's KEEN, IIRC...
it's been a while I wanted to answer this... sorry I'm new here.
KEEN never produced high tops. I asked and they confirmed.
Keds said the shoes in the film are definitely not theirs (I showed them good screngrabs of those from all possible angles)
Now... when I contacted Converse with the same picture they said
It's possible that costumiers asked Converse if they could make them a "special" shoe for the film (a high-top canvas with rugged sole) - the same thing happened with the Reebok from Aliens - or else they took a normal white converse type, modified it themselves adding the sole from work boots, the curtain-rings-like laces eyelets etc... (probably even the front ribbed band, or whatever is called)
I could have asked to a costumier who worked on Alien and whom I interviewed a while ago but unfortunately I forgot.
what do you guys think?
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defyitall
Sr Member
I don't know much about these costumes but those sneakers look a lot like a pair of PF Flyers my roomate has.
The stripe and side wall seem to be the same. The toe has the verticle grooves. As far as the soles, look at this link:
http://www.pfflyers.com/archival-reissue/
They've made them with beefy soles in the past. I can't explain the crazy lace holes but I think the shoes might be at least a custom or production-produced PF Flyer Center Hi.
The stripe and side wall seem to be the same. The toe has the verticle grooves. As far as the soles, look at this link:
http://www.pfflyers.com/archival-reissue/
They've made them with beefy soles in the past. I can't explain the crazy lace holes but I think the shoes might be at least a custom or production-produced PF Flyer Center Hi.
Jonesythecat
Well-Known Member
I had noticed the PF Flyers, obviously for the front ribbed rubber piece (awaiting for funny jokes here). Also the only ones with "rugged" soles. Unfortunately the rugged soles from the "Flyers" don't match the Alien shoe sole.
The grounder hi Pf Flyers sole look like this
while the Nostromo shoes had the typical boot sole.
I'm certain that the shoes were not pre-exsisting but they were modified from existing ones or custom made by some company like Converse or Pf Flyers.
Both Converse and Flyers have one single line running on the sides of the sole. I am positive it's either one of the two brands.
The grounder hi Pf Flyers sole look like this
while the Nostromo shoes had the typical boot sole.
I'm certain that the shoes were not pre-exsisting but they were modified from existing ones or custom made by some company like Converse or Pf Flyers.
Both Converse and Flyers have one single line running on the sides of the sole. I am positive it's either one of the two brands.
defyitall
Sr Member
True enough. They have a shoe called Sportshu that has a sole that looks closer to the Nostromo shoe.
I agree they don't look off-the-shelf. Probably cobbled together. But the PF's seem a better starting point than Converse. Especially since Converse toes are checked not ribbed.
I agree they don't look off-the-shelf. Probably cobbled together. But the PF's seem a better starting point than Converse. Especially since Converse toes are checked not ribbed.
Jonesythecat
Well-Known Member
I'm sure that old converse also came with ribbed toe. I wouldn't exclude that just yet. I'll contact Pf Flyers and ask what they think (those are the last company that I haven't enquiried yet... I was kinda keeping them for the end)
To make a list of "characteristics" of these shoes which were probably added/modified we have:
- rubber rugged sole (possibly from boots) instead of the typical high-top shoe soles
- ribbed front (might have been on the original shoe but might have also be made on purpose).
- 3 vent holes on the side notice that Converse and all other brands typically put two, this indicates that the shoes were most likely custom made or, in any case, modified
...and of course the laces D-rings! (I wonder where those are from!)
To make a list of "characteristics" of these shoes which were probably added/modified we have:
- rubber rugged sole (possibly from boots) instead of the typical high-top shoe soles
- ribbed front (might have been on the original shoe but might have also be made on purpose).
- 3 vent holes on the side notice that Converse and all other brands typically put two, this indicates that the shoes were most likely custom made or, in any case, modified
...and of course the laces D-rings! (I wonder where those are from!)
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