Accurate ESB Fett helmet visor search. Let's find this!!!

[GINO]

Re: Accurate ESB Fett helmet visor search. What has been found?

how do you know that its shade 3 btw? can you post the photo showing where you're getting the thickness and shade from?

I don't know for sure that it is a shade 3. I only used that as a reference point because out of all the different green visors I've had my hands on (a lot), that was easily the closest match. To my eyes, it looked identical.

I'll post a couple pics to help. Gimme a few minutes.

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[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Accurate ESB Fett helmet visor search. What has been found?

Can you post a pic or share the source? What type of item did it come from?

It's dark here so the color won't be optimal, but the source was an eBay vendor who also sold Fett decals. I'll see if I can dig up the purchase info. Have no illusions about it being the right type or color...

From what I can discern in the poor light is that it is a kind of greyish green color - more green than the pictures show, imo... but I'll take new ones tomorrow.

Just uploaded as they were transferred from the camera, didn't bother resizing.

 

[GINO]

Re: Accurate ESB Fett helmet visor search. What has been found?

Ok here are some pics. There are others that show it as well (again nothing secret), but these get the point across.
All of these photos are of the screen used ESB Fett helmet.


Color

Thickness

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[GINO]

Re: Accurate ESB Fett helmet visor search. What has been found?

Carsten, what you have is #2074 grey. That is an extremely common color of smoke tinted acrylic. I have that along with a bunch of other standard stock acrylic colors and they are all not right.
It has a slight green tint, but barely. It is still way too grey for what we want.

As you can see in the pics of the real helmet, it is much more green. It looks black unless a light is shined on it.


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[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Accurate ESB Fett helmet visor search. What has been found?

Yes. I was just more thinking about the thickness of the piece, rather than the color, which I could easily see when I took it out of storage that it was way off. Bought a long time ago... but good to know some additional info on it.

 

[GINO]

Acrylic generally only comes in a relatively small amount of the same stock colors (which are produced and supplied all over the world) and the most common colored thicknesses are .125" and .25".

It can be color matched or made into any color you want but we are talking major money, far out of our reach for what this is.

I don't believe the original was sheet acrylic. I'm thinking it was a pre formed/curved face shield but who knows.


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[BDK]

Gino you pick some tough cookies to crack... I've seen the small square shaped visor lenses that fit into a welding mask in that thickness but I've never ever saw a full visor in that thickness.

If I get the chance I'll ask around theres an old farmer near me that never throws away anything, I'd assume its possible that in the 70s/80's they did them in that thickness then as times progressed they've improved the forumla so they don't have to make them as thick and offer the same protection.

 

[GINO]

I hear you. If only those squares were larger.

If there was a way to rule out/confirm what the majority of visor thickness' were in the 70's that would be awesome.


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[saxe coburg]

OK, here’s my question… All of the Boba helmets are the same thickness/material, the only difference is the color. Right? If so, why if all of the helmets were originally painted white (the same), why would just one of them be different? Could they have all been the same, grey tint and when they were repainted, one of them (ESB) was dyed green? Just a very random, thinking out loud comment.

Also some time ago (several years ago) there was discussion about the chin strap in the Boba helmet being from a vintage riot helmet and if by chance the visor (which was very thick) from the riot helmet being the source for the Boba helmet visor.

Another random thought is the US military uses green tinted visors (for pilot helmets, goggles, etc) for protection against lasers. These commonly come in a dark green and grey tent. This may be a lead to pursue… maybe.

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

Could it have been cut from a motorcycle helmet faceshield ?

Similar to this but a flat, flip-up style ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-...9266725QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

Better, .060

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-9-JACKSON-F...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d26914c7b

 

[GINO]

Could they have all been the same, grey tint and when they were repainted, one of them (ESB) was dyed green?

I would say definitely not.

Also some time ago (several years ago) there was discussion about the chin strap in the Boba helmet being from a vintage riot helmet and if by chance the visor (which was very thick) from the riot helmet being the source for the Boba helmet visor.

There are many helmets which use that chin cup, but no one has found the actual one that has the correct strapping. It is very possible that whatever helmet this is, has the green visor we are looking for. Possible but no one knows for sure.

Another random thought is the US military uses green tinted visors (for pilot helmets, goggles, etc) for protection against lasers. These commonly come in a dark green and grey tent. This may be a lead to pursue… maybe.

Totally possible. I've not explored this avenue.

Could it have been cut from a motorcycle helmet faceshield ?

Possibly, but I've never seen one that was even close. Definitely not like the style you posted. Wouldn't rule motorcycle helmets out though.
I still feel like it is in the realm of welding visors, or safety face shields because of the tinted dark green color.

PS, the .060 thickness is old news. See first post.


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[razorsharp192]

where have you got the 3mm measurement from? just from guessing from the pic?

 

[BDK]

Wouldn't rule motorcycle helmets out though.
I still feel like it is in the realm of welding visors, or safety face shields because of the tinted dark green color.

I agree, there is something about the visor that just has the safety shield look to it.

 

[GINO]

where have you got the 3mm measurement from? just from guessing from the pic?

Yes, just from estimating from the pics.
Also like I said before, I don't think it's coincidence that it's .125" 3mm because those are pretty standardized plastic thicknesses.


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[cayman shen]

Pardon me if this is ignorant, because I really don't know anything about this, but...

Can the lighter, widely available green be "smoked" or darkened in some way? Might that have been done to retain the cool greenish but still hide Bulloch's features?

If two greens overlapped is too dark, might a light green and a gray have been overlapped?

Sorry if this is dumb...like I said, just unexpert speculating.

 

[GINO]

I don't think it is layered material.
I think it is one layer.

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[BDK]

Yes from that bottom angle shot it deffinatly appears to be 1 layer, some sort of seam would have to be visible if it was a few layers together.

 

[GINO]

Here's a vendor that lists options for visors up to 3mm.
The very first one shown on the page and it gives the option for green as well.
This is the one we would want.
A-Type (MN-1003)
9 x 12
green

However, it might just be the clear that is available in that thickness.

I'd like to confirm as this looks like a potential winner, BUT, this company is located in India!

Anyone want to contact them?
I would myself, but if I can't just pick up the phone and call them, I don't bother.

Here's the link:
http://neelkanthweld.tradeindia.com/Exporters_Suppliers/Exporter12896.186105/Face-Shield.html


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[James Kenobi 1138]

I was thinking motorcycle or police riot faceshield because of the thickness.

With welding/grinding, you need the dark color to protect your eyes from the light, and debris, but not hard impact like cycle or riot.