A New Look for the RPF!

vaderdarth said:
I like the old style. This one seems boring to me.
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David, it might seem boring because we have only shown it in a flat, two color where our current logo has various gradients on it.

Here is a quick test from RPF member Richd on what it might look like with a 3D treatment.

rpf-3d-test.png
 
Looks like a parking garage.....

I ked, I ked.......

That's pretty awesome looking.....
......now about that tag line : )))

Shylaah

Art Andrews said:
David, it might seem boring because we have only shown it in a flat, two color where our current logo has various gradients on it.

Here is a quick test from RPF member Richd on what it might look like with a 3D treatment.

rpf-3d-test.png
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The logo looks good, a lot of potential with it too. But, I'd also change the tagline. It doesn't roll off the tongue:

"Creating reality from movie magic" - I quite like this :)
 
Love the new logo. Very classy. I like the tag line but if considering alternatives how about - 'the RPF - More than just an Off Topic area'
 
christrom said:
"Creating reality from movie magic" - I quite like this :)
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I know a lot of people are suggesting other taglines, because they are not immediately identifying with the one we chose. There have been a lot of suggestions (and a LOT more coming in by PM :lol) but many are falling into traps we very specifically tried to avoid.

Christrom, not picking on you specifically, but I just wanted to address this here:

One of the great difficulties in creating a logo or tagline for a site like this vs many other sites within our hobby is that we cover everything. Props, costumes, models, sculpture, artwork, on and on. Not only that, but we pull from an infinite number of sources; movies videos games, tv, internet memes, comic books, etc. The question becomes, how do you cover all of that without actually naming everything in a long, awkward list. Even moreso, how do you cover things that are on the horizon and keep yourself open while not being so general that it could be anything at all?

We knew that we would need to cover the source and the action and we would need a word for each.

We decided on "craft" because it covers a myriad of actions from model making to prop building to costume creation. Our members are not just artists, but ARE craftsmen and craftswomen! We tried words like "build" but it gave the wrong implication, as did "create" and a number of other words. Craft was the only word that fit perfectly, covering what we do, while not being so broad that it covers everything in the world.

Not to get all PC on those who are saying that "craft" has feminine connotations, but... REALLY? Are you stuck in the 50's or something?

"Fandom" came for us searching for a term that would cover all the sources that our inspiration comes from. "Movies" is an easy out, but it is so limiting, especially as entertainment media sources continues to expand. We looked at really broad terms like "imagination," "passion" and even "fantasy" but they were simply too broad and nebulus and seemed like a cheat. They didn't describe us. They described anyone who has ever cared about anything or thought about anything. While there are certainly some negative connotations to "fanboys" we ARE fans of movies, tv shows, video games, comic books, etc. It is our fandom that pushes us to own and create the things we see in those various sources. Fandom is the perfect term because it covers any existing or future source of inspiration without being so broad that it could be anything at all.

We truly feel like this tagline is the perfect balance between being broad enough to cover everything that a site like ours covers without being so broad that the tagline simply becomes meaningless.
 
Art Andrews said:
I know a lot of people are suggesting other taglines, because they are not immediately identifying with the one we chose. There have been a lot of suggestions (and a LOT more coming in by PM :lol) but many are falling into traps we very specifically tried to avoid.

Christrom, not picking on you specifically, but I just wanted to address this here:

One of the great difficulties in creating a logo or tagline for a site like this vs many other sites within our hobby is that we cover everything. Props, costumes, models, sculpture, artwork, on and on. Not only that, but we pull from an infinite number of sources; movies videos games, tv, internet memes, comic books, etc. The question becomes, how do you cover all of that without actually naming everything in a long, awkward list. Even moreso, how do you cover things that are on the horizon and keep yourself open while not being so general that it could be anything at all?

We knew that we would need to cover the source and the action and we would need a word for each.

We decided on "craft" because it covers a myriad of actions from model making to prop building to costume creation. Our members are not just artists, but ARE craftsmen and craftswomen! We tried words like "build" but it gave the wrong implication, as did "create" and a number of other words. Craft was the only word that fit perfectly, covering what we do, while not being so broad that it covers everything in the world.

Not to get all PC on those who are saying that "craft" has feminine connotations, but... REALLY? Are you stuck in the 50's or something?

"Fandom" came for us searching for a term that would cover all the sources that our inspiration comes from. "Movies" is an easy out, but it is so limiting, especially as entertainment media sources continues to expand. We looked at really broad terms like "imagination," "passion" and even "fantasy" but they were simply too broad and nebulus and seemed like a cheat. They didn't describe us. They described anyone who has ever cared about anything or thought about anything. While there are certainly some negative connotations to "fanboys" we ARE fans of movies, tv shows, video games, comic books, etc. It is our fandom that pushes us to own and create the things we see in those various sources. Fandom is the perfect term because it covers any existing or future source of inspiration without being so broad that it could be anything at all.

We truly feel like this tagline is the perfect balance between being broad enough to cover everything that a site like ours covers without being so broad that the tagline simply becomes meaningless.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. You nailed it. (y)thumbsup



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I like the new logo but hate Art's new Avatar - I prefer the word ART shooting from your eye - but I'm willing to learn to like the new one as well.
 
Jet Beetle said:
I like the new logo but hate Art's new Avatar - I prefer the word ART shooting from your eye - but I'm willing to learn to like the new one as well.
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Wha?!? That graphic was created by people on Facebook who can't stop thinking about me! Don't diss them! :lol:lol
 
I understand your explanation of the two words, craft and fandom, and why you chose them for the tag line. What is derailing it for me is the syntax of Craft the Fandom.

Accepting craft, which is debatable whether and how much people perceive it as feminine, accepting that word for our modus operandi, we build, sew, sculpt, mold, cast, vac form, mill, carve........we craft stuff.....

The word fandom, this is not what we craft.......we craft stuff. Fandom is people. The dictionary definition--"All the fans of a sport, an activity, or a famous person." "The microcosm made up of people who are fans of a fiction genre." We are the fandom and we craft the things we see and love from whatever fantasies we induldge in.

Crafted by Fandom -or- Fandom Crafted -- there you have "people" and "they are making stuff"......which is what we are and what goes on here.....

Craft the Fandom is the same as saying Craft the Audience, Craft the Group, Craft the Community.......just doesn't make any sense to me as English language.

EDIT: It has been pointed out in a post following that the new tag line is actually Craft YOUR Fandom not Craft THE Fandom........not any difference......
I still don't see that it makes sense. Fandom is essentially intangible and can't be a crafted item.

Craft Your Fandom is the same as saying Craft Your Audience, Craft Your Group, Craft Your Community.....it just doesn't make any sense to me as English language.

Shylaah

Art Andrews said:
I know a lot of people are suggesting other taglines, because they are not immediately identifying with the one we chose. There have been a lot of suggestions (and a LOT more coming in by PM :lol) but many are falling into traps we very specifically tried to avoid.

Christrom, not picking on you specifically, but I just wanted to address this here:

One of the great difficulties in creating a logo or tagline for a site like this vs many other sites within our hobby is that we cover everything. Props, costumes, models, sculpture, artwork, on and on. Not only that, but we pull from an infinite number of sources; movies videos games, tv, internet memes, comic books, etc. The question becomes, how do you cover all of that without actually naming everything in a long, awkward list. Even moreso, how do you cover things that are on the horizon and keep yourself open while not being so general that it could be anything at all?

We knew that we would need to cover the source and the action and we would need a word for each.

We decided on "craft" because it covers a myriad of actions from model making to prop building to costume creation. Our members are not just artists, but ARE craftsmen and craftswomen! We tried words like "build" but it gave the wrong implication, as did "create" and a number of other words. Craft was the only word that fit perfectly, covering what we do, while not being so broad that it covers everything in the world.

Not to get all PC on those who are saying that "craft" has feminine connotations, but... REALLY? Are you stuck in the 50's or something?

"Fandom" came for us searching for a term that would cover all the sources that our inspiration comes from. "Movies" is an easy out, but it is so limiting, especially as entertainment media sources continues to expand. We looked at really broad terms like "imagination," "passion" and even "fantasy" but they were simply too broad and nebulus and seemed like a cheat. They didn't describe us. They described anyone who has ever cared about anything or thought about anything. While there are certainly some negative connotations to "fanboys" we ARE fans of movies, tv shows, video games, comic books, etc. It is our fandom that pushes us to own and create the things we see in those various sources. Fandom is the perfect term because it covers any existing or future source of inspiration without being so broad that it could be anything at all.

We truly feel like this tagline is the perfect balance between being broad enough to cover everything that a site like ours covers without being so broad that the tagline simply becomes meaningless.
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Love the new logo!
Well done guys...Gino, as usual awesome work bud!!!!!:thumbsup

I personally really dig the current logo, but at the same time love this new one...and love the potential use of framing for official RPF images and content based on the logo design.

As for change in general...:cool
Every once and a while....a step forward it necessary. Otherwise, over time you're really just taking 2 steps back no matter how good or popular your product...or 'Forum' is. So by that logic alone I welcome this new logo, and fortunately I dig the design too....:lol

(y)thumbsup:thumbsup
R P F
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David
 
This is great, love the new logo, love the tagline. Can't wait to see the new site!

EDIT: 1,000 posts! Hurrah!
 
The more I stare at the new logo, the more I like it. Just wondering why the 2 bars on top and bottom? Wouldn't it still look awesome with just single bars on top and bottom? I think the tagline is fine.
 
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