A L I E N Narcissus

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  1. marvin

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    Looks great! Thats what i did with my Sandcrawler too. But that was simpler cause being a ground vehicle i didnt really need an armature.

    When you finally get to put it all together in real life... thatll be so satisfying
     
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  2. NS4

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    Thanks Marvin!
    Yeah, I'm really looking forward to building it.
    It's been a long time coming...
     
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  3. EE89

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    Incredible animation of the acrylic parts going together! Thanks for sharing that. It really shows how much passion and hard work you put into this project!
     
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  4. joberg

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    Animation rocks and it's a beauty to see all of those pieces coming together:thumbsup
     
  5. NS4

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    Thanks very much guys :thumbsup
     
  6. Firefox3D

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    Very cool, and intriguing, what software did you make it with?
     
  7. NS4

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    Thanks!
    The animation was done in Keyshot.
     
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  8. NS4

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    I've started to organise the bits and pieces I need to actually start the build *finally*!

    I have ordered the steel for the armature frame. It will be 25x25x2.5mm square section - as per the original model.

    I have made up the 60 odd guide dowels I need and have started compiling the 3D printed parts.
    There are a few pieces of off the shelf styrene tube, pipe and sheeting used on the original - I now have those in hand too.

    I have all the model kits used on the ship apart from two, but there is only a single piece in each of those kits - so just two pieces I dont have yet...

    I am currently working on producing the patterns for the acrylic and styrene sheets so that I can have those cut.

    It begins!

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    I've set up a facebook page if anyone wants to follow along on that platform too:

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  9. joberg

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    Exhausts are looking sharp! Eager to see the next update!
     
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  10. NS4

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    I have uploaded my collection of reference images (of the Narcissus in varying stages of construction) to my facebook page if anyone is interested.
     
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  11. NS4

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    Been taking a few weeks break with my family, but now that I am back I will be looking to push the build forward.

    Not much to show as yet, but a lot of work going on in the background...

    The armature is done and in hand:

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    The acrylic templates have been finalised and the acrylic and styrene has been ordered.
    I hope to have the acrylic cut later this week.
    Once that is done, the build should progress at a fairly steady rate.
    The ship uses 3mm, 4.5mm, 6mm and 8mm acrylic (with the majority being 3mm) and there are 130 individual pieces that make up the body of the ship.

    More to follow...
     
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  12. joberg

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    Eager for you to get started on that baby:)
     
  13. NS4

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    Thanks Joberg - edging closer now...
     
  14. NS4

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    The 3mm acrylic has now been cut and is my hands.
    After looking at this ship in the digital domain for years (literally), it is so cool to see it in the physical world.
    I'm really looking forward to being able to start the build.

    The acrylic parts look fantastic. They are super sharp and very accurate.
    I had all the parts printed 1:1 on paper and have checked each piece of acrylic over the top of the print out.
    Included in the files that were cut are all of the tiny holes that were drilled over the ship (and there were many), and all the engraved panel lines too.
    This means that they will all be located exactly as per the original (the benefits of having a photo matched CAD model!)

    The parts made from the other thicknesses of acrylic will be cut later this week.
    I have ordered a tube of Weld-On 16 in preparation for the start of the build shortly.

    Apologies for the images - it's really hard to try and capture clear plastic in photos!

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  15. srspicer

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    Wow, congrats!!!

    :popcorn
     
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  16. NS4

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    All the acrylic parts are now in my hands and the build has begun!

    Is it wrong that I'm having this much fun building it? lol.

    Everything is just falling together so far.
    Hopefully it continues...

    Going to call it a night, but this is my progress after a couple of hours:

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  17. joberg

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    Real beauty there:thumbsup
     
  18. NS4

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    I spent another 1/2 day on the ship today.
    The armature is now built in, and the ship is very sturdy.
    I will look at organising a way to mount the model via the armature to make working on it easier going forward.
    The 3d printed parts have worked well in combination with the acrylic and everything is fitting together as it should...

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  19. joberg

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    Seeing the form of it already!
     
  20. NS4

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    I've had a couple of days downtime as I ran out of glue! lol
    I have re-stocked now...

    I manged to find something to hold the ship while I work on it - an old lamp stand.
    It's weighted at the base and has a ~15mm dia metal upright.
    I printed a small plug that goes into the armature with a hole to fit over the upright to make it more snug.
    Seems to works well.
    You have to use what you have available!

    The ship is progressing well.
    I have fitted the nose section and the 3d printed parts worked well there.
    There is a hole in the base of each "nostril" in case I decide to add lighting later.
    I've added the panels to the underside at the front (where all the "important" stuff is).

    The styrene/hips sheets I will need later in the build have also arrived.
    I wasn't able to source any locally, so had to order them in.

    I have printed the last couple of pieces I need to complete the base of the ship and will continue on it tomorrow.

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  21. joberg

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    Taking shape for sure; love the way everything is fitting together:thumbsup
     
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  22. NS4

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    Apart from a couple of minor non-structural pieces, the acrylic is now done.
    On the whole, it went together very well.
    I did find a couple of areas that I could improve on (in terms of the way it goes togther) and have adjusted the model and files accordingly.

    The top front of the ship has been made removable and is fixed in place with magnets.
    This leaves the possibility of doing an interior in the future.
    The underside panel at the rear (between the engines) is also removable - as per the original.
    This allows removal of the airlock area and again the possibilty of adding details there too at a later date.

    The next step is to spend some quality time with a sanding block patching/blending the panel seams and joints...


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  23. satazius

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    Wow. Impressive work. Thanks for posting all the progress shots. It's great watching it all come together.
     
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  24. NS4

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    No problem - thanks for following along!
     
  25. srspicer

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    Looks fantastic! It must be graduating, no?!

    Gratifying......* auto correct
     
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  26. NS4

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    Thank you!!
    It's taken a long time to get here, but I am really enjoying the build so far :thumbsup
     
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  27. NS4

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    Stay frosty! :cool

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  28. NS4

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    Test fitting of the top engines...
    I'm happy to report that they are a perfect fit :thumbsup

    A couple of shots of them in place (the second picture is of the original model at a similar stage of construction).

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  29. srspicer

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    Looking great!! :popcorn
     
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  30. joberg

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    Pro-Job so far mate(y)thumbsup(y)thumbsup:thumbsup
     
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  31. NS4

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    I spent the weekend filling and sanding (and filling and sanding)...
    - you know you've done a good weekends work when you have sanded down your fingertips until they bleed!).

    *note to self - check the best before date on the bondo/filler before using, as product that is 11 years out of date doesn't set anymore...*

    The top engines are now attached and look great - very happy with them.
    They still need to be blended into the main hull at the top.

    The top of the ship is pretty much done, but I'm spending the extra time to make sure I get this stage looking spot on.
    It would be much harder to fix later on.

    Starting to become a little more recognisable now....

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  32. joberg

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    A beauty for sure...:) Keep up the great work!!
     
  33. NS4

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    I've been working on and off during the week to finish off the filing and sanding.

    The top is pretty much done now.
    The engines have been blended into the main hull and the nozzle support "upstands" have been added (to the area below where the main engine nozzles will sit).
    The piping for the small side thruster nozzle has been put in place too.

    I'm currently working on the lower engines and will add them to the ship shortly.
    Most of the filing and sanding on the underside is done too.

    I'll update with some more pictures once the lower engines are attached.

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  34. srspicer

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    Beautiful! :popcorn
     
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  35. joberg

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    Amazing work so far!!
     
  36. NS4

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    The first stage of the build is now complete and the main hull acrylic is done.
    Very happy with the way it's turned out so far.

    I've added the engines to the underside and they fitted well.
    They look sharp and clean with good definition in the panel lines.

    I added all four nozzles to the engines and they fit nicely over the top of the supports (exactly as per the original model).

    The only items that were molded and cast on the original ship were the engines and nozzles, eveything else was hand made.
    Although I'm sure the intent was for the nozzle supports (and the trapezoid pieces below them) to be the same, I have confirmed via my CAD model that they each have subtle differences and are mostly unique.
    All of the parts I have produced, replicate these variations.
    I have used dowelled registration holes in the ship and in the parts to ensure that each part is located as it was on the original.

    The underside has seen the addition of the turreted strips on either side at the rear.

    I am currently printing the clamp attachments that fit on each side of the ship.
    I have designed an armature plug that will allow them to have a push fit into the armature.
    I will be able to use this on all four of the armature openings.

    I've managed to track down another donor kit I was chasing.
    That leaves just one more kit (with only a single piece left).

    I will start work on producing the layouts for the styrene now and transfer them to the blank sheets I've purchased.

    More updates soon...

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  37. vectorzero

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    Phenomenal work. Just gorgeous.
     
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  38. NS4

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    Currently mapping out the styrene that needs to be added to the ship next - and there's a lot!

    365 individual pieces...

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    The docking clamps are done.
    I wont attach them to the armature plugs until the styrene is in place, as they they need to be positioned over the styrene on the top side of the ship.

    The parts layout is done and I will look at transferring it over to the plastic in the next few days.
    I have also had my layouts printed out full size onto paper so that I can use them as templates for locating the (many!) parts as accurately as possible.

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  40. DARKSIDE72

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    Looks fantastic! Are you sure you don't want to offer a basic kit???
     
  41. joberg

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    Wow! So precise a model:cool
     
  42. NS4

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    Thank you very much!.
    I could, but with the amount of work involved (even for a basic kit), I fear it would put it into a price range out of most peples budgets.

    Cheers Joberg :thumbsup
     
  43. DARKSIDE72

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    Well regardless of what you decide to do in the future, * fine work bringing this to life!
     
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  44. NS4

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    Had a productive weekend.
    I managed to get both sheets of the styrene templates (which covers the entire ship) transferred over to plastic.
    I then spent the rest of the weekend cutting them out and sticking them on!

    I have to say, I'm quite enjoying the process.
    It's time consuming - due to the sheer amount of parts, but with a refreshing beverage and some good tunes, it's quite therapeutic! lol

    I've made a good dent in the plating for the top front half and hopefully I can find some more time during the week to continue a little further...

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  45. joberg

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    The plating is coming along just fine; this is going to be a hell of a model when finished:cool
     
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  46. NS4

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    Continuing to add plating to the top of the ship.
    Currently working on the rear quarter panels and the airlock area.

    It's a time consuming process to make sure that everything is located correctly (to match the original).
    The full sized paper templates I had printed are a big help in this regard.
    It's reassuring to see everything is fitting as it should.

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  47. joberg

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    Wow, it's going faster than I thought it would:eek
     
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  48. sliuman

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    Just noticed this thread. Have to say, it's wonderful and a clear labour of love.

    Your patience and attention to detail will be rewarded when it all comes together.

    Getting the armature cut obviously sped up the process and it looked great even as just a basic frame. Measure twice cut once, they say.

    I'd never be able to afford one of these (can I ask how much the model cost?) but I can live vicariously through your excellent work.

    Followed on Facebook to to watch your progress!

    The finished product should be a marvel!
     
  49. pnag

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    Been following you on FB, but will also subscribe to this thread - it's absolutely gorgeous!
     
  50. NS4

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    Thank you very much!
    It really gives me incentive keep working, knowing that people are following along with the build.

    Thank you!
    Yes, it has been a bit of an obsession of mine for the past 5 years lol.
    All the hard work was in building the CAD model and getting everything to match the reference photos.
    Once that was done it has been a relatively quick build (up until this point anyway - if a little nerve wracking making sure everything fits together properly).
    I've been checking against the 3D model as I've been going so that I don't make any silly mistakes!

    Material cost would probably not be that much.
    A few sheets of acylic, some styrene and a short length of steel for the armature (sounds simple when you put it like that!).
    Buying the kit parts for modelling reference cost around $2000.
    The real cost is in all the hours put into the 3D model up until this point. I wouldn't even know where to start to put a figure to it.

    Thanks for following along - I really appreciate the support and comments.
     
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