5' Falcon base hull building

Yeah, $100 for one kit, to get just one part, is rather absurd. And then what do I do with the rest of the kit? I probably should not be doing it, but here I am. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m relatively new to studio scale but I’ve found that there’s some good people willing to trade. Don’t be afraid to simply ask. I put it out there I wanted a couple parts and someone gave me the whole kit. Just be sure to pay it forward.
 
Kinda nice to start to see some of the bigger parts come together. I'll start printing the skirt next week.

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Finally received my Sealab kit today. Looks like it's all there.

This was in the box and I'm mildly curious to know what would happen if I taped a dime to it and mailed it in... 105 Bond Street in Toronto is now part of Ryerson "University".

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Hi Dave, I haven’t been on the site much recently but it’s great to see that you’re making good progress on your build.
I really like those gun turrets, something I will probably start for my build fairly soon.
Congratulations on finding the sealab kit btw.
 
Begun the somewhat challenging process of laying out the hull plating on the docking rings. I took the 3D model I designed and printed the part from and unwrapped it to get the proper cone shape, then scanned the Bandai kit part to get the basics of the plates. In illustrator I then combined the two. Right now, I have a very rough layout of the rectangular shapes, correctly sized but with no cutouts or jogs along the edges. I just wanted to see if all the lines are perpendicular to the top and bottom, which they seem to be. So the next step is to add all the jogs and notches. And then do the other one.

I'll post the patterns for these when I'm happy with them.

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Take your time and do it right. I found the armor layout and staggered shapes on the conical docking rings to a surprisingly beautiful feature of the Falcon. Another wonderful design creation by ILM and the artist’s vision.
 
Today was a little experimentation with colour, and so a caveat to everything in this post.
  • Colours are not captured correctly with the iPhone camera that was used to take the photo.
  • The photo was taken under interior LED lighting in my workshop with light coming in the window on a cloudy day.
  • Colours do not display correctly on your computer monitor.
  • Some of the paints have a different base sheen than the others.
But with that said, I've been looking for an effective way to match the original Floquil Reefer White that ILM used. And before anyone says anything, yes I know about Archive X paints. Nobody in Canada wants to stock the brand, the US distributor won't ship to Canada, and the UK one can't get any stock. Also, a 1oz bottle is about $12 CAD. I've completely given up on that brand and I've decided to do the work myself.

Below are 4 plastic card samples of potential replacements.
A. Floquil Reefer White (the real stuff purchased via eBay at just shy of $100 CAD per bottle after shipping)
B. Digitally matched acrylic enamel paint sprayed on white card.
C. The same digitally matched paint sprayed on black card.
D. AK Interactive Cream White (used as an additional data point)

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B and C are custom mixes I had done by NAPA automotive. This is a mix I worked with their paint department to create based on the Floquil sample. The process involved taking the A. sample in, they took about 10 photos with a colour match system that then generated a formula. Then we tweaked it, slightly, a little bit by eye. The guy at my store has been doing this for about 15 years and seems to really know his stuff.

As far as price goes, A 7.5oz rattle can spray is $40 CAD, so if you want to give it a try, go into any NAPA with a paint department, give them number 1025533IE , and they can mix the batch. (A 3.3oz Tamiya rattle can of Insignia White is $13 CAD.) So this is far less expensive than either Archive X and especially the real deal (if you can find either)

If that number doesn't show in their system, the formula is;
430-03 @ 41.15%
430-07 @ 00.76%
430-02 @ 00.38%
435-96 @ 57.72%

So again, I know that you're not seeing the real colours. That's impossible based on my camera and your monitor. But to my eye, and to the eye of the technician that created the mix, We can not see a noticeable difference between his mix and the real Floquil paint - especially when they're clear coated.

So anyway, if someone is looking for far less expensive, and far more attainable replica for the original Reefer White, give that a go. Even if the colour isn't close enough for your liking, it's only $40, which in the grand scheme of Falcon replica building, isn't even a noticeable expense.

I hope that helps someone.
 
Today was a little experimentation with colour, and so a caveat to everything in this post.
  • Colours are not captured correctly with the iPhone camera that was used to take the photo.
  • The photo was taken under interior LED lighting in my workshop with light coming in the window on a cloudy day.
  • Colours do not display correctly on your computer monitor.
  • Some of the paints have a different base sheen than the others.
But with that said, I've been looking for an effective way to match the original Floquil Reefer White that ILM used. And before anyone says anything, yes I know about Archive X paints. Nobody in Canada wants to stock the brand, the US distributor won't ship to Canada, and the UK one can't get any stock. Also, a 1oz bottle is about $12 CAD. I've completely given up on that brand and I've decided to do the work myself.

Below are 4 plastic card samples of potential replacements.
A. Floquil Reefer White (the real stuff purchased via eBay at just shy of $100 CAD per bottle after shipping)
B. Digitally matched acrylic enamel paint sprayed on white card.
C. The same digitally matched paint sprayed on black card.
D. AK Interactive Cream White (used as an additional data point)

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B and C are custom mixes I had done by NAPA automotive. This is a mix I worked with their paint department to create based on the Floquil sample. The process involved taking the A. sample in, they took about 10 photos with a colour match system that then generated a formula. Then we tweaked it, slightly, a little bit by eye. The guy at my store has been doing this for about 15 years and seems to really know his stuff.

As far as price goes, A 7.5oz rattle can spray is $40 CAD, so if you want to give it a try, go into any NAPA with a paint department, give them number 1025533IE , and they can mix the batch. (A 3.3oz Tamiya rattle can of Insignia White is $13 CAD.) So this is far less expensive than either Archive X and especially the real deal (if you can find either)

If that number doesn't show in their system, the formula is;
430-03 @ 41.15%
430-07 @ 00.76%
430-02 @ 00.38%
435-96 @ 57.72%

So again, I know that you're not seeing the real colours. That's impossible based on my camera and your monitor. But to my eye, and to the eye of the technician that created the mix, We can not see a noticeable difference between his mix and the real Floquil paint - especially when they're clear coated.

So anyway, if someone is looking for far less expensive, and far more attainable replica for the original Reefer White, give that a go. Even if the colour isn't close enough for your liking, it's only $40, which in the grand scheme of Falcon replica building, isn't even a noticeable expense.

I hope that helps someone.
Wow this is a great tip and I appreciate you sharing the info you've gathered. I might give this one a try considering the quantity of paint you get for the price, not to mention getting it in a spray can is great! Did they tell you if they're able to give you "loose paint" as in packaged in a smaller container which you could then run thru an airbrush? That specifically would make it really great for all the mist coats you might need to do.

Do you plan on recreating all the colors via NAPA or are you going to try some other paint for the less "major" colors on the falcon?

And if you ever need a proxy to ship some Archive-X thru just let me know!
 
Yes, they can put that colour in a bottle if you would like. While I've not tried it myself, it's acrylic enamel, so any thinner that works with AK Real Colour should probably be fine.
 
FWIW - the 5’r was never painted with Reefer White as the base color - this has been a longtime and heavily discussed misrepresentation.

You’ll see the automotive primers they used in the yellow cans in many BTS photos.

The model was base painted using these automotive primers with white primer over dark gray primer.

Then the white was knocked down - filtered and weathered with various floquil colors such as grime, concrete, reefer white, etc., and others.

This is also true on most of the other ANH rebel miniatures.

At the end of the day though, as with any of these replicas, the artist does whatever they think looks best.
 
FWIW - the 5’r was never painted with Reefer White as the base color - this has been a longtime and heavily discussed misrepresentation.

You’ll see the automotive primers they used in the yellow cans in many BTS photos.

The model was base painted using these automotive primers with white primer over dark gray primer.

Then the white was knocked down - filtered and weathered with various floquil colors such as grime, concrete, reefer white, etc., and others.

This is also true on most of the other ANH rebel miniatures.

At the end of the day though, as with any of these replicas, the artist does whatever they think looks best.


Great info.

Could you explain what you mean "knocked down?"
 
I'd read that as well actually, although I've not read anything 'official' about it. If you know the brands of primer, I could see if they can be sourced.

thanks
 

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