300 Spartan Helmet

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by bobamaker, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. bobamaker

    bobamaker New Member

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    I sculpted this on Saturday using WED clay. I'm pretty pleased with how this turned out, took about 6 hours in total. WIP pics are on my website bobamaker: Spartan Helmet Build

    I'm just waiting for it to cure some more before I can mould it.

    I welcome any and all criticism :$

    DAZ
     
  2. Darkturbo04

    Darkturbo04 Active Member

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    that is a wonderful sculpt. Well done.
     
  3. RoCKo

    RoCKo Sr Member

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    Nicely done, Daz! Can´t wait to see this painted...
     
  4. bobamaker

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    I think I'll make the first fibreglass copy with a COLDCAST BRONZE surface rather than painting. I will be able to to give the surface a few dark washes first to enhance the pitting effect, then polish up the CC. I'll put pics here when it's complete.

    DAZ

     
  5. Sisqo

    Sisqo New Member

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    Great job man,im sure the final result wil be awsome.
     
  6. Supa troop

    Supa troop Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I think i know what colour scheme this is going to end up being too :)
     
  7. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    Crazy nice!
     
  8. Maelstrom

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    Saw this on your site. Beautiful work as always!
     
  9. bobamaker

    bobamaker New Member

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    Before I make the first coldcast helmet I decided to do a few COLDCAST tests using both BRONZE and BRASS powders. The original screen helmets were supposed to be Bronze, so that's where I started. The Bronze looked a little dark in reality (but lighter when photographed). So I tried Brass powder, this looked more like gold in reality. So I ended up using 2 parts Bronze powder mixed with 1 part Brass powder. I used a very fine grade wire wool to polish it then finished it off with some 'Brasso'. Here's the test result.

    I'm really happy with the way the coldcast has emphasized the surface texture.

    DAZ
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2011
  10. Supa troop

    Supa troop Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I hope you dont mind me hyjacking this slightly

    but i have a Steel Version of this helmet and one of the things i would like to do is weather it and add the dents and bumps, anyone have any ideas how i could achieve this.

    The Helmet is made of steel as i said and super smooth, it needs to be more movie like.
     
  11. Awesomeness

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    The cold cast really looks great.
     
  12. bobamaker

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    It depends a lot on what type of metal, soft or hard. A dremel is an option, one of those sanding ball attachments. I used clay specifically for this sculpt to get the texture easily, good luck...

    DAZ

     
  13. Dougie Fett

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    The screen used pieces that are for sale in the Propstore have a very dull bronze finish, they appear to be more golden in the finished movie because of the stylized clipping approach they applied.

    You seem to be on to something there with the coldcast sample.
    I have tried using bronze pigment and drybrushed with a Grecian Gold rub'n'buff, also a nice effect.
     
  14. bobamaker

    bobamaker New Member

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    Yes, the screen used helmets are duller, this may also have something to do with them dulling in the time since they were made. I'm not sure if they had cold cast powder in the foam when they were produced, if so, it will certainly dull over time. My aim is to produce a helmet that looks like the ones seen on screen.

    It's always a dilemma, especially when i made my Boba costume, do you copy the actual prop as it looks now, or make it look the prop as seen on screen?

    DAZ

     
  15. toddslightning

    toddslightning New Member

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    how much are u thinking for a piece like this ? i always wanted to scuplt a helmet .. and this looked pretty simple to do .. u made it look to easy lol
     
  16. Bountyhunter Niko

    Bountyhunter Niko Well-Known Member

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    Very nice. Well done.
     
  17. BGL

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    Real beauty nice work
     
  18. Dougie Fett

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  19. bobamaker

    bobamaker New Member

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  20. Dougie Fett

    Dougie Fett Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Most of the helmets have that dull bronze look although the Captains helmet seems to have a more Grecian gold look to it (truer to the screen shots).

    Some great insight into the helmet of Leonidas in particular, are you planning on adding the crest/plume? Cant believe they made 17 of them!!!

    Are you planning on making rubber versions?
     
  21. stevo

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    good job
     
  22. bobamaker

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    Not sure yet, I'm waiting for the coldcast powder tomorrow or Tuesday, then I can make the first coldcast copy. I'm having to ship the powder here from the UK. Once I've made the copy I'll know how much powder and resin is needed for each cast.

    DAZ

     
  23. Foxy

    Foxy New Member

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    Wow. That's some great work man
     
  24. ThePhoenix

    ThePhoenix Active Member

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    super nice
     
  25. Loserizer

    Loserizer New Member

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    Looks Great!
     
  26. tango

    tango New Member

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    Very nice. CC turned out great.
     
  27. rhinokey

    rhinokey New Member

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    awsome job
     
  28. Burnsy

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    Looks good Daz. Hope you're well bud.
     
  29. bobamaker

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    I've now finished the first coldcast copy, it's been polished and weathered. I rubbed black and green acrylic paints into the cast before I did the final polish with Brasso. Brasso did a great job of dissolving the acrylics but leaving a "dirty black/green" residue in the recesses. I purposely weathered this a little more than the screen used helmets, this will work well with the display that I'm about to start work on.

    The pictures show the helmet a little more gold coloured than it actually is, but it's not a bad representation.

    DAZ
     
  30. bobamaker

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    Here's a quick computer mock-up of the bust that I'm going to sculpt. The figure will be wet clay, then a fibreglass copy made and painted. I will need to sculpt the broach, possibly foam board and filler. The robe will be real red cloth and the leather straps will also be real leather.

    Obviously, the face will be a little more rugged / weathered and battle scarred on the finished sculpt, the torso too.

    DAZ
     
  31. Dougie Fett

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    Turned out great Daz, wouldn't expect anything less from you....

    Any plans to make the rest of the armour?
     
  32. bobamaker

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    Thanks a lot. No plans to make any more armour, I'm now going to finish sculpting my Snowtrooper. Because time is an issue, I'm not sculpting this bust, instead I'm putting together a nice themed stand, I'll put pics up when it's finished today or tomorrow.

    DAZ

     
  33. toddslightning

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    i just got the spartan shield for christmas from my brother i donno were he found it but it was 40$ shipped and they have the sword also .. i dont pyshiclly get it yet but he opened the box and showed me he couldnt resist hahahah
     
  34. bobamaker

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    Display stand almost complete... just need to make some kind of plaque. I'm thinking about the logo "300" cut out of red plastic (we'll see). Here's the stand so far. I decided against sculpting a head and chest because of time issues... way too busy :confused

    This display has elements from the costume (red cloth and leather) but purposely kept non-descript so it doesn't take too much away from the helmet.

    DAZ
     
  35. tango

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    Hi Daz...what type/manufacturer of broze/gold powder did you use? Thanks in advance.
     
  36. bobamaker

    bobamaker New Member

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    I get them from Tiranti.co.uk This is the company that developed these powders some years back.

    DAZ

     
  37. tango

    tango New Member

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    Thanks for the info, the OS jango flight suit and vest. Best!
     
  38. tango

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    One more question DAZ, how much powder do you use for each helmet? 500 grams, 400 grams?
     
  39. bobamaker

    bobamaker New Member

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  40. SpartanSoccer5

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    amazing helmet! cant wait to watch the vid.
     
  41. Gunvor24

    Gunvor24 New Member

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    Very nice! i was wondering how you got the reference for sculpting? I'm in the middle of gathering shots of the helm, shield, and sword of a spartan to make a desk top mini display and while I've pulled every usable shot from the movie and done some digging on 300dc.com and come up with some great stuff, the perspective shots I've got don't give any direct views of the front or top. Is this something you just wing or....

    thanks to any help!
     
  42. bobamaker

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    From memory, I think I found some really good pictures of a screen used helmet that was up for auction, could have been from Prop Store.

    DAZ
     
  43. Gunvor24

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    many thanks!
     

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