2nd Age Elven Armour Lord Of the Rings! Build

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  1. Popeanator

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    Just got the materials to make a trial of the armour.


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    This is the foam sheets I managed to get I wanted a more of a box colour but the only had the right size I needed In white.


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    The foam I slightly Bigger then my templates making them for 40 cm long to 45cm (2.5cm on each end)
    The glue I'm going to need Is below. White School Glue And Fabric Glue.
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    Tuesday, 27 December 2011

    Starting My Second Age Elven Armour Build LOTR


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    This Is what Im trying to build


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    So far im making templates for the chest it is 12 pices.

    Im going to make it from craft foam this site has a tutorial

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    Going to post my templates some time soon mabye tonight!

    The Plan is to make this in time for the hobbit!

    Update!
     
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  2. Popeanator

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    Chest Templates are done!


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    Print this as A4 you should not have too much trouble.

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    Kinda you will have to add a piece to extent all the way around to the back!
    The numbers on this pic should help with the template. you have to join
    the first two shapes together. Because you don't see the second half of the bottom 6 pieces there is no point wasting materials. (that is the 3rd shape).​
     
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  3. Cal

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    Sweet, I want to make a Bard costume, but they wont show it.
     
  4. Popeanator

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    I wish the showed more of the second age in the movie. If your woundering they show this armour when they are talking about the ring at the start of the fellowship of the ring. Man and elves last stand. where the defeated sauron.:rolleyes I hope to start on the trial armour soon I may have to get a diffrent colour If I can't find flexible enough paint. :confused
     
  5. Popeanator

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  6. Cal

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    It's gonna be hard to find someone here that hasn't memorized the Battle of Dagorlad, and the entire movie :p
     
  7. Popeanator

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    you are so right! Any wat if any one has any ideas in paint I could use. Or has teemplates already for the helmet or greves. Please help!:eek
     
  8. Cal

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    Looks to be a mix of gold/bronze paint with a black wash. but I guess you could get fancy and use rub and buff. Here is a leather gorget painted gold/bronze [​IMG]
     
  9. Popeanator

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    Thanks, I was plaining on weathering it. Because it is made from foam the paint has to be flexible. I was thinking of adding some fabric glue to the paint and seeing what happens. I can't seem to find rub and buff any where. I had a hard time finding the foam sheets. I'm planning on buying a bulk shipment of mabye 20 or so off the net. More like the colour she uses in the link.

    http://entropyhouse.com/penwiper/costumes/helmsdeep.html

    Im need some help the the helmet templates I anyone could lend a hand.
     
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  10. jollyskeleton

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    Good choice of armour! Looking forward to seeing more :)
     
  11. SmilingOtter

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    I was just watching the Weta Workshop documentaries on the extended DVD's. One of the things they pointed out was how the 2nd Age armor was greenish gold, suggesting the elves were in the springtime of their civilization, while the armor they wore at Helm's Deep was much more reddish gold, hinting that they were declining into autumn.

    I look forward to seeing how this turns out.
     
  12. Jathoris

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    Awesome! I love the fact that people are still interested and creating LOTR costumes. :) I've made one of these particular costumes and I really wish they would have made the foam in larger sizes when I had constructed my armor, but they only had the larger rectangular sheets. If you check out places like JoAnns or Michaels.. etc.. Just any typical well-known craft store, they actually sell the foam in huge rolls for a very decent price. This will help with the chest and hip pieces and actually are large enough to cut out the pieces as one continuous piece, without having to put two pieces together to fit all the way around you. I too was orginally going to do mine in foam, some pieces are, but I ended up having to make most of it out Sintra and garage sale signs, because again.. The foam rectangles weren't big enough. Obvioulsy, only a suggestion, so far it looks like you are out to a great start and can't wait to see this finished. Keep it up :thumbsup
     
  13. Popeanator

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    Making the first trial chest piece


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    I split the templates into two parts making the top section today.
    Each needing 6 pices.

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    Using this template (I added some extra flaps on the end so it would be the length of a sheet.)
    I traced it on to the foam. I managed to get 5 out of one 12' times 18' sheet.



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    This is what is looks like right now. Glued together with white school glue. (It has still not dryed in 24 hours)

    OK so An update one second half of the chest will be comming soon!

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    This was all the off cuts so managed to use the sheet of foam up well. :rolleyes

    Thanks to all the great help. but I live in Australia so in is hard to find the same stuff you guys have. Plus I ahd to go to five diffrent shops to find that foam sheets. Thats how hard it was.:wacko

    Do you have any pointers on the helmet I have no Idea where to start. :confused
     
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  14. Popeanator

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    Jathoris You should put up some pics or send a link to you armour. I've wondered on how to make the skirt thing. I have a few Ideas but i'll have to see how they turn out. If you have some templates that would make my day!
     
  15. Jathoris

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    LOTR 2nd Age Elf pictures by Jathoris - Photobucket
    I'm missing a ton of my in-progress pics but if I can, I'll be happy to answer anything I possibly can for you. When I originally built mine, there was hardly any information or resources out there and did very much along the same lines as you're currently doing by and stop-framing the films and the "making of'" portions of the extended DVDs. As far as the hips go, it's kind of a modified pattern of the chest lames, only simpler. The top portions are going to be more of a long rectangle piece with the just the corners rounded off, and the bottom-most pieces (underneath), are going to be more of a half-moon shape. I'll have to double check but I believe the lames to overlap much like chest piece criss-crosses in the front of the design and I think there are 7 lames total. I'll link you to two sites that seem to have the best resource tips/ideas out there for this armor and they're a big help. LOTR Costume Research Home and this one Haldir's Elven Archers

    **sorry I misread that, you said skirt. :lol Not sure which part, you can't really see it in the pics I have but there's 3 layers there. A dark blue velvet looking material that's a basic skirt, but is split up to the waist line I think in 3 pieces. Then there's the lighter blue skirt which is over sized to look like a single drape but is cut in the same shape as the hip armor so you can move in it. In the posted pics, the outside light played havoc on the material so the light blue looks almost bleached, it's actually much darker, as is the 'gold' looking cape( which is actually a blue/green gold two tone material). The cape and waist sash is all one piece and I kid you not it's several yards of fabric and all one piece. the cape/sash part is the only part I know for sure that is accurate as far fabric construction goes.. the other parts just kinda had to wing it. The cape free hangs, goes over the shoulders and under the arms, wraps around the waist twice, ties in a knot and the rest hangs. HEA's site has a wonderful tutorial for that and don't worry, it's NOT as bad as it sounds.
     
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  16. Popeanator

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    That is soo awesome! Was the helmet just paper mache and bondo?
    Can you sit down in the armour? I was just woundering because I'm planing on seeing the hobbit in it. I was thinking of editing it slightly to sit down. Also what did you use for chainmail?
    I've scene the sites before basicly the only info I can find on the entire internet!

    I was talking about the armour when I said skirt thing I want to get the armour done and do the fabirc second :D
     
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  17. Jathoris

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    lol, yep, basically. I honestly had no idea what I was doing, but knew what I wanted it to look like. This was before i'd ever played with fiber glass/resin/clays and all the good stuff. There's a TON of people on here who can give you some great adivice on that. I had started with a $.99 plastic basball hat, poster boarded the basic shapes, paper mache, plaster patches, threw on pre-mixed paper mache, bondo and wood filler, sanded it smooth, drew the designs and thinly applied puff paint.. painted. Horrible way to do this I suppose :lol but it was all I knew at the time. Check to see if there are any Pepakura files. That may be of some help.

    PS.. NO I couldn't really sit in mine at all! I'd imagine making an easier way to take it off (or that portion) would've been a good idea in hindsight haha!
     
  18. Popeanator

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    I'll Play with ideas tomorrow with templates Might try to get the chest plate done. If it ever drys. So I can try heat gunning it into shape. Im thinking of not having a helmet and going with long blond wig and elf ears.

    I was just woundering what are the dimentions of your sword. (Im not planing on making a spear or sheild) Did you make it. If so what from.

    Also Im planing on not having the lace up system going to make a buckle and strap system. Thinking of only making the thigh armour finish early. So I ahev room to sit down. Im not trying to make a 100% replica. Just trying to make It look like it is :). But the leather and stuff I might just use brown heavy fabric or something.
     
  19. Cal

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    You might run into a problem where all the armor pieces are the same length, when you bend them around your body there going to be at different positions. Did you make one from posterboard or something to be sure it fit?
     
  20. Popeanator

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    I made the template from heavy paper. It seams to fit alright but it's only a trial any ways so we will see if the concept works.
     
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  21. Izzzie

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    Oh my, this is going to look great, Popeanator! It's awesome to see another Aussie on here, too; keep up the good work!

    Jathoris, those are some seriously impressive photos. Well done!!!
     
  22. Jathoris

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    Faux suede is your friend :) Should be an easy find online for the dimensions or if you happen to have the middle earth Arms and Weapons book. UC may also have it listed as the reproduced the swords.
     
  23. Guri

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    There are a few people around here who have made this costume, not sure if they're still posting much in the costume section... I'll see if I can get their attention for you. :)
     
  24. Popeanator

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    sleep in till 2pm today got work in 2 hours so it will have to wait till tonight.(lol had a big night) But thanks for all the interest guys glad to see people are as keen as I am. I'm also going to see with hobbit with my friend who is planing on dressing as a dwarf. My have to convince he to get an account. I'll have a look around for the sword diementions. I was thinking of using a steel rules as a base and using craft foam for the blade and eva for the handle. :)
    Oh and I'll look into Faux suede.
     
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  26. Popeanator

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    Awesome! I just happened to have use eva foam before to make costumes. So I all ready have some :) That is how Im going to make my sword I think!
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  27. Popeanator

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    New Update! Chest Plate Glued.


    Waiting for it to dry. this is the view from the back.
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    Awesome I watched Evil Fx's vids got me some ideas on the sword.
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    As for the sword I found the dimentions.
    Total length is: 149.86cm (49')
    Blade length is: 60.96cm. (24') an Eva foam Mat is 100cm × 100cm.
    I'll Split the blade and handle up and attach them later.
    And do two halfs Might use a steel ruler as a base.

    There is no way I'm going to be able to get the blade as thin and for it to stay in it shape.

    Once the glue drys I plan on heat guning the chest plate. (I'll do a test piece first). More up soon! wish me luck.
     
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  28. p0rtalman

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    Good luck with this! Not an easy project to attempt.
     
  29. Popeanator

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    Thanks man I hope it works.:rolleyes the sword seams to be so big. I may have to scale it down.. :confused
     
  30. Nibenon

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    I must say, this is a thread I'll be watching :) Why not use sheet aluminum for the blade of the sword? It's fantastically cheap over say, good carving wood or steel, and way shinier than foam...
     
  31. CelticRuins

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    Definitely keeping an eye on this! I've been thinking about doing Gil-Galad for a LONG time!

    I've also used fun foam before, and Gen's site is one of the best: Craft Foam Armor Tutorial
     
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  32. Popeanator

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    Chest Plate Update


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    I Shaped the chest plate today turned out niceish. I had to pull apart the pices that go over the shoulder neck part. and glue them closer together.

    Below. Thease are the pieces I've got ready to add to the sides so the chest plate reaches around to my back. :unsure I hope it works. Im not sure if the pieces should be curved or straight. Hmm.
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    As for haveing a metal blade on my sword well. The police are very strict on fake weapons. you even have to have a weapon licence to have a lord of the rings replica sword. :cry
    Now that Is strict! We don't even have Airsoft :angry
    Well Im thinking of using a steel ruler as a base for the sword.
    I might use craft foam for the blade and eva foam for the handle.
    The sword is soo giant. God! It's 150cm long....:unsure
     
  33. CelticRuins

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    Have you thought about crafting the sword from instillation foam?

    I'd definitely curve the side/back plates.

    Lookin' good!
     
  34. Nibenon

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    Another idea then, it practically combines your original plan with my own: Pirates of the Caribbean : Sword Tutorial: DIY - YouTube

    It should be fairly easy to switch around the design, providing you're handy with a dremel.

    Excellent armor so far, making me want to update my arsenal!
     
  35. Popeanator

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    Well im going to have to look in to that! I may enf up making two sets so me and a friend can go together. We will have to se how this turns out first..
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  36. Rikarus

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    Looking good!!! Subbed up on this one to follow your progress!
     
  37. Popeanator

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    Sword update!


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    This is the sword template I made It's about 122cm long I made it a bit smaller.Then the replica swords you can buy. There about 150cm long.

     
  38. Popeanator

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    Chest Plate Update


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    Extended the chest Plate it seamed to work it fits well going to do the same with the other side. Then the the sholder as well. :rolleyes
     
  39. Jathoris

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    Looks great! Keep it coming :) Ps.. No don't use any kind foam based material for the sword. lol.... I did this, baaaaaad move. The insulation foam is really wonderful stuff but for anything with length and especially for it being such a thin item, it's way too easy to damage or snap in half... which was basically what happened to me. I had cased it all in casting material and coated it with resin so it was honestly pretty sturdy, but having someone flop on the hotel bed not seeing it.. yep... I don't think I''ll ever forget hearing that dreaded sound of it breaking. :lol
     
  40. Popeanator

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    Well well see Im working on it. Thinking of making it from eva foam. That stuff is hard to break. Plus adding a metal rod or something in the middle. as for the blade..no idea :behave
     
  41. Darth Pinhead

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    Big difference between the insulation foam and EVA interlocking foam mats. EVA foam is fine for swords, guns, etc., and is used all the time for scratch built props. Your typical source for EVA foam are the foam mats used for garages, storage rooms, at-home gyms, etc. It is quite flexible and takes a beating quite well...
     
  42. Jathoris

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    Darth, you're absolutely right. For some reason I was just thinking about the more styrofoam based material and forgot about the wonderful interlocking mats. Those things are a godsend and they do hold up. :lol
     
  43. SChristides

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    I saw an interesting tut ages ago on making prop swords. I'd credit the guy but alas...

    anyway the basic idea was it was built up with layered/overlapped (think brick pattern) card pieces. Once the basic shape was laid out a channel in the middle was cut out and a bit of dowel was glued in for strength.

    With a bit of googling I'm sure it can be found again. I might try later or someone else might know what I'm talking about.

    Keep it up anyways
     
  44. Darth Pinhead

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    No worries, brother. Just didn't want to scare away the OP from a more than suitable and cost-efficient material. ;)
     
  45. Popeanator

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    That is a good idea well. I might use wood dowle. For the middle section. :eek
    Update comming soon! :lol
     
  46. timelordjedi777

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    Looks like it's coming along. I can't wait to see it when it's done.
     
  47. Popeanator

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    Im having trougle finding more craft foam for the armour. This was a trial but I might just go a head with what I have done and make this the final chest piece. Still working out what I can make the sword form. I also need to but a hot-blade for cutting the EVA foam.
     
  48. spacemarine

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    Looking good, i'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out (o: I just started making
    my own 2nd age elven warrrior costume. I posted a thread in the replica movie
    costumes section if you want to have a look. Keep the posts comin'.
     
  49. Guri

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    Some places like Michael's Craft and Jo-An Fabrics sell it in large rolls.

    Or you can get it on line: http://www.amazon.com/Foam-Roll-36-X60-White/dp/B002JPX68W

    The first Haldir sword I made from tin foil, papermache and covered it with clay. Here's how And here's what it looked like, click to see it enlarged.

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    The second one my husband carved from wood. It was much better. Don't have a bigger one of this.

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    If I were to make another sword without my husband's help, I might use a metal yard stick for a sturdy base, cut the shape I wanted out of cardboard, glue it and then cover it with glue or some other strengthening agent - some use bondo, some fiberglass... I'd experiment.
     
  50. Rikarus

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    was watching LOTR:TT last night and talking about this project how comes the armor?
     

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