1979 Alien Figure in Bronze #2

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  1. alienbuilder

    alienbuilder Well-Known Member

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    After some time I think I am going to start another little project finally...

    already made some preparations:

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  2. George

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    Re: New Project....

    Looks interesting,but haven't got a clue
     
  3. Ravenville

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    Re: New Project....

    Alien head?
     
  4. obiwan kowalski

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    Re: New Project....

    has to be
     
  5. Leigh

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    Re: New Project....

    Liking the look of this so far :thumbsup :)
     
  6. TheDarkMart

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    I have to agree - kind of looks like the start of an Alien head! Anymore details you want to share?
     
  7. alienbuilder

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    Re: New Project....

    right, of course this will gonna be an alien sculpt again. I am planning to do another bronze cast, but this time a little bit more realistic using these curled wire technique. The first series back in 2010/11 was completely sculpted in wax, because I wanted to cast the prototype in bronze directly and was not sure if I would do an silicone mold. This time I definitely will, so I can use other materials than wax too. Anyway most of the sculpt will be wax I guess. this is because I have some experiences wit the material. more than these oil clay though.

    here s the dome so far with the white template inside.

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    the dome have a length of ca 12 cm. so this might become a little smaller figure than the first one.
     
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  8. KGC

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    Re: New Project....

    Absolutely to follow :D Great!
     
  9. TheDarkMart

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    Re: New Project....

    This going to be a really exciting undertaking. Do you have concept sketches of what your final Alien is going to look like, or are you kind of making it up as you go along?
     
  10. alienbuilder

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    I want do a position similar to the old mpc kit package:

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    but if the silicone - mold / wax casting process go well, I hope do do other positions out of this master pose. made some good experiences with resculpting a wax cast before bronce cast with my first figure. the standing position is my favorite though, but the crouching alien from the promo pics is also very nice.
     
  11. alienbuilder

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    just a little progress:

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    but I upgraded an old bronze cast of the first sculpt last weekend. this was the second cast back in 2010:

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    and here is the same figure after resculpting the dome a little bit and replacing the teeth with stainless steel teeth. not perfect but much better than before...

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    reminds me a lot on this picture:

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  12. alienbuilder

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    can only make minor progress these days. hope to have more time when fall is coming. anyway the shape of the head comes closer I think. not 100% accurate because of the number of rips on the big tube... on the other hand I am satisfied of how the shape of the lower tube is working.

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  14. CTStudio

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    Looks awesome!! Thanks for sharing :D
     
  15. alienbuilder

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    thank you!

    some updates. maybe I could finish the head next weekend....

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  16. alienbuilder

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    nearly done with the wax head. just have to add the tendons... than I can start the body with legs.

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  17. daredevil665

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    Wow wow wow!:thumbsup
     
  18. alienbuilder

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    :D

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    starting the body next week...
     
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    I was lazy with this the last weeks but its going on now. some sculpting every evening. here s where I am so far with the body:

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    made some progress. lower body is nearly finished except some little details. maybe I can finish the ribs this weekend too.

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    Really cool!
     
  22. alienbuilder

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    thanks.

    just still not much visible progress. all the little details are real time killer.

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  23. Leigh

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    Superb! :)
     
  24. daredevil665

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    *, you make me want to do it another !!! really well done!
     
  25. jess the pirate

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    This looks beautiful. I have wanted to do a full size head sculpt for ages, just gotta work out the logistics of making something so big in my tiny house!
     
  26. alienbuilder

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    thank you guys:D

    yes, size can be a problem. a 1:1 alien head would never fit in my flat.. so I guess I will stay with the scaled one.

    @ daredevil665: a crouching one would be nice:lol

    have done the rips now, so I the body should be ready for the first mold soon (need to add the nails though)

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  27. alienbuilder

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    bought some silicone for the mould and resin for a master cast. made the first half of the mould for the body today and used nearly most of the silicone for it. did not made many massive cast molds though but I am a little surprised of the volume. had to order another 2 liters for the head and the other half of the body.. thought 2 liters would reach for this all and the arms too. :wacko

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  28. daredevil665

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    Wow, it's magic!
     
  29. alienbuilder

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    not really, but thank you :lol for me all these 3d modeling and printing is magical. for props there are so many new possibilities today.

    well, here s the first half of the mould. hopefully the new silicone arrives tomorrow so I can make the second one.

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  30. Leigh

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    Looking really good :) but no key's in the mould half??
     
  31. alienbuilder

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    :lol exactly... just the moment I filled in the last drip of silicone it came to my mind!!! AW! FORGOT TE KEYS! guess it could work with the uneven cutting line too, but I will cut some key marks into the first half too. not really how to do moulds..

    I m also not sure if I ll use a massive mould for the body next time too. too much silicone is needed and i m exited, if the results will be much better than a mould with mother shell. for the other parts of the figure I am planning to make massive cut open- moulds..
     
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    new silicone arrived so I was able to go on with the second half of the mould. maybe I will do a first resin cast tomorrow.

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    What material does it use for casting?
     
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    I will just use some polyurethane resin (PUR) for the first cast, so I have a more stabile alien body to work on with the arms tubes ...

    my plan is also to sand/ resculpt some areas on the body in resin and maybe make another mould of that one. I will see how things come out. at least I want to cast some aliens in bronze next year..
     
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    put out the resin cast today. looks nice in some ways (reminds me on the original latex costume when its unpainted) but I think there are too much air bubbles and failures in it. but the mould works nice, so I think I will just use it further for the wax castings. the only thing that needed to be sanded for a smooth surface are the dome of the head and the shoulders??? of the body and I can do this at the finished bronze figure too. there will be bubbles in the wax casts too, but its much easier to repair there. anyway I can use the resin cast to fit the other parts now...

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    Looks like a clean cast to me :thumbsup Very nice! :)
     
  37. alienbuilder

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    I am not sure what is normal in resin casings, but actually there are really some air bubbles. especially the fine tubes at the belly and the legs are problematic. too much bubbles for my taste though and maybe I could prevent some of them by brushing out the mould more intensively next time. I uses a resin with much longer cure time this time so it would be possible. The resin I used before cured in 3-5 minutes so I hurried up with the brushing this time.

    another thing I saw is, that the head might look a little bit better with a changed throat. maybe I will change that in some of the wax castings even though there are some scenes in the movie, where it appears like it is now I think... made some quick photoshop here:

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    also resculpted the "nose" of the dome a little bit. maybe it matches better now...

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  38. Leigh

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    Do you dust your moulds with talc before casting?

    The revised neck works better with the upright pose you have him in :)

    That face looks Awesome! :eek
     
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    no, I did not. I heard this would give the cast a matt appearance so I thought it wont be necessary. do the dusting prevent bubbles too?

    I think I will make the mold with the actual neck anyway (its also a lot of work to change the wired stuff now), but change it later in the wax castings depending on the pose I will chose for each figure. You are right, for the upright pose the changed will be better. change it in wax should be easy anyway and I guess I want to do some crouching posed figures again too. the body actually was also a good pose for moulding and gives me much abilities for changes in wax later on.

    and thanks for the face compliment. I am already exited how it will look with a polished dome and maybe steel teeth in some versions.
     
  40. Leigh

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    Dusting the mould with talc before you cast (in polyurethane) should reduce the bubbles, it'll also help draw the resin into the detail. HTH :)
     
  41. alienbuilder

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    I will try this out next time than. Thanks
     
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    This is absolutely wonderful! HR Giger would be proud.
     
  43. alienbuilder

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    Thank you.

    At the moment I have to do some other work so I had no time to go on with this, but I think I will have more time in December.
     

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