1:1 Indiana Jones In-Progress

[IndyBlues]

Not too fond of this silly pic, but it will give you a little bit of an idea of what his body looked like around when Raiders was filmed. He was a pretty thin guy. Just a bit toned but not too niticeable.

MY EYES!!!!:eek Just what I needed to see,...Indiana Jones wearing a banana hammock, lol. There is no way to UN-see this.:cry
'Blues:lol

 

[Jedifyfe]

Here are the hat pics...

I think I'm ok on the size, but I'm pretty disappointed in the shape of the brim. But that is easily corrected, so it's all good...

Looks good, yeah just reshape the brim and all is well. I also think you need to go dirty on the weathering like Agent 5's...

 

[TazVader]

Yeah...I love his the best

Out of all the one's I've seen his is always the best. I think the museum look is classy to (black head) I'd love to know where to get a dummy like his.

I guess he weathered it with Fuller's earth? That right agent? How do you apply it? Any special techniques? How do you get rid of it? LOL

PH....I think the hat look great. You are right about the brim....easy fix.

Regards
TAZ

 

[PHArchivist]

Check these out...

My previously stated concerns about the hat possibly being too small have been laid to rest. If anything, it may be just a tad too big. Thoughts?

 

[Nexus6]

The hat looks good to me, & padding you have so far, looks right on, IMO. :thumbsup :thumbsup

 

[PHArchivist]

The hat looks good to me, & padding you have so far, looks right on, IMO. :thumbsup :thumbsup

Thanks!

Of note, the legs are done - I tightened up the thigh padding, and added calf "muscles". Though I do still need to shape the pelvic area, pad the waist, bladder-to-stomach transition, etcetera.

I've also lowered the head a bit so that the trapezoids flow into the shoulders better.

 

[Jedifyfe]

Hat looks 100 times better and the whole body is really taking shape. This is going to look really great all done!!

Brad

 

[cking]

Hi Rob,

Great progress - it's really taking shape now.

I have to admit that the hat looks too big though which is understandable to be honest. Chewie15 sculpted this bust using my old Herbert Johnson as reference. That hat was a 58 so really, you'd need to get a 58 on there to make it look like Chewie15 originally intended.

Chris

 

[PHArchivist]

Chewie15 sculpted this bust using my old Herbert Johnson as reference. That hat was a 58 so really, you'd need to get a 58 on there to make it look like Chewie15 originally intended.

Now ya tell me! :angry Just kidding - I'm ok with the fit of the hat...

It is intriguing how the shape of the brim and the camera angle alters how the fit of the hat appears. In some shots it looks fine (side shot for example); in others it looks a bit big (head-on shot). With the brim flipped down in the rear, you can see the brim in the head-on shots down behind the ears, which seems to enhance the appearace of size for the hat.

I'll also be adding hair over the sculpted hair so that will fill out the head a bit. Additionally, once the bust is done in entirety, (beard, eyes, paint, shirt collar around neck), I would presume that the fit of the hat would be slightly less in focus. Right now, the eye goes straight to how the hat compares to the monochromatic head.

Finally, I suppose if I really wanted to, I could trim the circumference of the brim by 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch, but that would also throw off the overall porportions of the hat.

 

[cking]

Hi Rob,

I don't think it's the brim which is giving the illusion of the hat being too big. It's the actual volume of the crown itself. Since the hat you're using is designed for a head with a larger circumference, it's always going to look too big for the face in my opinion.

Chris

 

[PHArchivist]

Hi Rob,

I don't think it's the brim which is giving the illusion of the hat being too big. It's the actual volume of the crown itself. Since the hat you're using is designed for a head with a larger circumference, it's always going to look too big for the face in my opinion.

Chris

Ok now you've got me spinning... I do see the excess size (as I alluded to earlier), but am just not certain which way to go - swap it or keep it.

Before I go further, let me state I have well enough experience in this hobby to know "how thing's work". I know that only I can make the decision. I know that little details like this add up to the greater whole. I know that once pointed out, things like this can bug you for a lifetime.

Now on to more objective observations...

--My hat is a 60, or 7 1/2 inches.
--Chris advises it should be a 58, or 7 1/4 inches
--Based on how the hat sits on the head, plus the fact that I will be adding hair, I'd be concerned with going to a 58, or a full 1/4 smaller
--I could go with a 59, or 7 3/8

But how much volumetric difference would there be between a 7 1/2 and a 7 3/8? Or even between a 7 1/2 and a 7 1/4? Would reducing the hat circumference size by just 1/8 or 1/4 inch really make the crown that much smaller that it would be noticeable?

Also, isn't the height of the crown more or less fixed a 5 1/2 inches, regardless of size?

Oh, what to do, what to do...

EDIT: I just remembered that the "7 1/2" or "7 3/8" doesn't directly translate to inches.

 

[PHArchivist]

A 58 is 22 5/8 inches
A 59 is 23 inches
A 60 is 23 1/2 inches

So...

The difference between the 58 and the 60 is 7/8 inch
The difference between the 59 and the 60 is 1/2 inch

Much more notable a difference, and making more sense now.

 

[cking]

Hi Rob,

Yes - exactly. It's quite surprising how noticeable the difference is between hats of different sizes. I feel sure that a 58 would still fit on the bust even after you've added some hair. Since you're putting so much effort into getting Ford's body proportions correct for your great display, I think it's worth going the extra mile to get the hat looking correct on the head too.

Cheers,

Chris

 

[PHArchivist]

Hi Rob,

Yes - exactly. It's quite surprising how noticeable the difference is between hats of different sizes. I feel sure that a 58 would still fit on the bust even after you've added some hair. Since you're putting so much effort into getting Ford's body proportions correct for your great display, I think it's worth going the extra mile to get the hat looking correct on the head too.

Cheers,

Chris

Plus, the jacket and entire should carraige will be slightly too big too (jacket is a 42) so combined with an overzied hat, the head would begin to look out of porportion.

I'm leaning towards exchanging for a 58 or 59.

 

[agent5]

I'd go with the 58 as well. The hat should be pretty snug on the bust, giving it some of the brim flair it needs to be an Indy hat.

 

[PHArchivist]

Here are a couple more shots. I'm sold on ging for a smaller size, but I think I wil compromise with a 59.

These sort of show how the hat rests, not loose, but not pulled tight either

 

[PHArchivist]

And now for something really scary!

 

[Jedifyfe]

What The "F"!!!!!!!

 

[PHArchivist]

What The "F"!!!!!!!

Weight loss program!

 

[PHArchivist]

I'd go with the 58 as well. The hat should be pretty snug on the bust, giving it some of the brim flair it needs to be an Indy hat.

Arrgghhh!! This is so confounding! I spoke with the supplier, and have arranged to do an exchange in person (will be driving by their place Friday morning).

The DO HAVE the 58 in stock, but not the 59.

Well...

While I agree that my 60 appears a bit too big, 60 = 23 1/2 and I remeasured the bust, and where Howard sculpted the hat hair, it is just about exactly 23 1/2.

I'll bring the bust with me so I can see just how well the 58 fits, but at 22 5/8 it would have to be pulled down REAL tight, or it will ride REAL high.

The higher black line is about where 22 5/8 lays (and that is being gracious; it may be higher). The lower line is where the 23 1/2 (60) rests.