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    Dec 5, 2010, 12:27 PM - Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #1

    As the colour of the clay sculpt of the Stormtrooper helmet was not discussed in depth in the Lucasfilm vs Ainsworth court case, I feel that the facts should be revealed. Ainsworth has now re -written his version of events for the 6th time (5 amended statements being presented as the truth was produced) using the true facts that I put forward in my one and only statement. He has not only changed the facts as they happened but has changed his website from Shepperton Design Studios to www.OriginalStormtrooper.com

    No-one knew about the clay helmet that had been sculpted for the production until I informed Lucasfilm lawyers of its existence. After searching through their Archives a photo was found in the Gary Kurtz Archive. The clay helmet I saw outside the Art Department was the same colour as the clay that Liz and I were using on the film.

    Ainsworth is now using a colour distorted photo of the clay helmet to try to show it as terracotta as Pemberton (who was incorrectly credited for sculpting the helmet) said he only worked with terracotta as it is cheap.

    Again Ainsworth is trying to cheat Liz Moore out of the credit she so richly deserves for sculpting the helmet.









    Photo of me in 1976 using the same clay to sculpt the Death Star Droid as Liz Moore used to sculpt the Stormtrooper helmet
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    Dec 5, 2010, 2:43 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #2

    Thanks for keeping on this. You can't stop a liar from lying, but you can stop others from believing a liar. The guy has dug in too deep in his lie to stop now - that's usually what happens when the dollar and pound sign flash before their eyes, then truth be damned.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 3:11 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #3

    I stand by my opinion that this overhyped pond puller is a reprehensible human being. We just have to make sure more people know he is a liar.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 3:13 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #4

    Why he keeps laying claims to the helmet sculpt or presenting false information is beyond ridiculous. He's not laying any claims to the armor, yet that doesn't stop him from selling that, so from a practical business sense... why maintain the lie?
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    Dec 5, 2010, 3:20 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #5

    You tell a lie so much, you start believing it, I guess. It gives him some sense of validity to those who are not in the know. I get the feeling that the group of people NOT in the know is getting smaller all of the time. I would like to see just one thing Ainsworth actually sculpted. Putting a crinkly vacuum hose on the back of a stormtrooper does not count.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 4:24 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #6

    Too Much Garlic said: View Post
    Why he keeps laying claims to the helmet sculpt or presenting false information is beyond ridiculous. He's not laying any claims to the armor, yet that doesn't stop him from selling that, so from a practical business sense... why maintain the lie?
    He is laying claim to the armour Carsten even though the Judge gave me full credit for it in court and said that the timeframe Ainsworth gave was ludicrous. Ainsworth also stated in court that he did the armour with no imput from the Studios. Now he has stated on his website that he had meetings with John Barry which is the first time he has ever mentioned John. He has used the information I gave in court and rewritten his 'history'.

    From his website :
    This was the entry in Nick’s diary from 25 February 1976… Nick was away and Mollo called a rush meeting with Andrew at Nick`s to ask him to attend a meeting the next day at Elstree Studios to discuss the production of the armour.
    Andrew met with the production crew headed by John Barry, the Art Director, who explained to Andrew ‘We have been working on this film for three months and all we have to show for it is this’ as he held out one of 3CPO's eyes.
    Andrew saw no evidence of any armour being made, but Nick had said that he had seen some grey armour being worked on, probably in the same style as the grey clay helmet from Liz Moore.
    In any event, John Barry gave Andrew a further sketch which portrayed a Stormtrooper with canvas type ammo pouches as per a soldier from the Vietnam war. He asked Andrew if he could make the armour in time for the first shoot in Tunisia, less than a month away. Andrew said he could, and the Art Dept at the Studios abandoned any further work on the armour and moved on to Darth Vader.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 4:35 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #7

    Quote from Ainsworth's new website:

    This was the entry in Nick’s diary from 25 February 1976… Nick was away and Mollo called a rush meeting with Andrew at Nick`s to ask him to attend a meeting the next day at Elstree Studios to discuss the production of the armour.
    Andrew met with the production crew headed by John Barry, the Art Director, who explained to Andrew ‘We have been working on this film for three months and all we have to show for it is this’ as he held out one of 3CPO's eyes.


    By the time Ainsworth says he was involved on 25th February 1976 Liz Moore had been finished on the film for 3 weeks and had sculpted several versions of C3P0 helmets and a few different suits. The finished C3P0 suit had been agreed on and I'd even carved the suit up and done minor alterations - by the time Ainsworth came to the Studio it had all been remoulded and the finished suit was being cast. This shows how delusional Ainsworth is.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 5:03 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #8

    From AA - 2005

    "I’m aware of the interest in the issue regarding the composition of the original helmets. Let me be categorically clear on this point. The vast majority of the Stormtrooper helmets we produced were made from a batch of white ABS we ordered in after being given the go ahead by the Studio (as a relevant point the ABS order size was so huge it took us a long time to clear – long after the project was complete). My team here who worked with me on the original film are also absolutely clear on this issue. Irrespective of our own clear memories of the project it is inconceivable to suggest that we could have produced the glossy body armour in one material, with the helmets in another.

    Especially a bumpy, painted material whose finish was so poor on the eye. Quite simply our contacts on the film would not have accepted them and quite rightly so! I am sure that some of the Polythene helmets probably did end up on screen, such were the demands for the film at that time, however I am absolutely positive that the vast majority were ABS and these would have taken a colossal pounding during filming. This point, along with the fact that it was industry practice to destroy all scenery and costumes/props such as this when filming completed, probably goes some way to explain why there are now problems locating original ABS helmets.

    It is a shame that so many of the supposed question marks raised over my current production have come from the very people who have had the benefit from capitalising on my original work over the past years. This I find quite complimentary and wish them the best of luck with their endeavours. However, I cannot help who I am and I cannot help that my production of replica helmets come from the original moulds and the original hands that made the screen-used items in the first place.


    I will continue to bring back all the characters we worked on at Shepperton Design Studios, and as an artist derive immense satisfaction from the joy that this project brings to so many.
    Wishing you a Happy New year
    Yours sincerely
    Andrew Ainsworth
    Director. (Managing)


    "You tell a lie so much, you start believing it" - absolutely!.......jeez, even to quote George Costanza..."It's not a lie, if you believe it."
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    Dec 5, 2010, 6:22 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #9

    Someone should build her a tribute website...
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    Dec 5, 2010, 6:24 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #10

    Are there people out there that really buy Ainsworth's fables?
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    Dec 5, 2010, 6:27 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #11

    He is making sales, so....yes.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 6:59 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #12

    Yep he keeps making the stuff.
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    Dec 5, 2010, 10:11 PM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #13

    It's sad that such a turd had something to do with making something we love so much. Thanks for setting things straight Brian.
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    Dec 6, 2010, 4:19 AM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #14

    Too Much Garlic said: View Post
    Why he keeps laying claims to the helmet sculpt or presenting false information is beyond ridiculous. He's not laying any claims to the armor, yet that doesn't stop him from selling that, so from a practical business sense... why maintain the lie?
    Couple of reasons spring to mind, first and foremost for those casual fans who stumble upon his site and are unaware of all the facts then it's good marketing to talk up his involvement and on the surface gives validity to what he says he is selling.
    Secondly i'm sure LFL will attempt to appeal and if he changes his story about his involvement it gives them ammo in the case.

    On a side note Brian are there any photos of the alternate C3PO helmets and suits Liz sculpted ? it would be awesome if there was.
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    Dec 6, 2010, 4:29 AM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #15

    Ah... you guys a're right. Sorry to add to the confusion.

    Yeah, it's a shame all the old concepts and alternate sculpts weren't used to populate the prequels.
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    Dec 6, 2010, 4:49 AM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #16

    Thanks for posting this information.
    I heard about the lawsuits awhile back ago and I cant believe he would try to take credit for some-one elses work.

    I dont think his sales reflect people's opinion on the matter...Maybe, they know he is a dirty liar, but they want the most accurate items around town..
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    Dec 6, 2010, 6:37 AM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #17

    but they want the most accurate items around town..
    even though they're not ( the most accurate items around town )
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    Dec 6, 2010, 6:47 AM - re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #18

    See what I mean, EvilRocketeer? His stuff is NOT the most accurate in town. This is what I mean about people buying into his line of crap. I am hardly a Trooper guy, but if I recall, his armor is a poor recast of someone else's suit.
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    Dec 6, 2010, 9:12 AM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #19

    Qui-Gonzalez said: View Post
    He is making sales, so....yes.
    I can't imagine why.

    You would think that the casual buyer would get one of the nice EFX helmets, seeing how they are nice, licensed and don't really cost an arm and a leg.

    If they aren't educated about what they are buying, you'd think that if they'd ask around for what was the most accurate and reputable, someone who was knowledgeable would steer them away from Ainsworth and his scam.

    I have nothing against someone making a living, even someone making a living discreetly bending the rules in regards to copyright and intellectual property to a certain extent. I just can't imagine doing that, and having to lie about what it is you are selling to your customers and I don't think that given the vast amounts of evidence in this case, that he's doing anything other than telling lies in order to get people to give him money (fraud, the last time I checked.)
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    Dec 6, 2010, 9:14 AM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #20

    defstartrooper said: View Post
    On a side note Brian are there any photos of the alternate C3PO helmets and suits Liz sculpted ? it would be awesome if there was.
    I thought I've seen some of these published somewhere? IIRC, they were even more reminiscent of the Metropolis robot. More feminine.
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    Dec 6, 2010, 7:24 PM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #21

    Here's a copy of more of his lies.....

    "Shepperton Design Studio
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    3rd January 2005

    It has come to my attention that there have been some concerns raised over the authenticity and provenance of the moulds and processes used for the productions of my new range of SDS helmets.

    I would like to assure collectors that we ARE using the original moulds, the same ones we used in 1976 to create the screen-used helmets. Our statement “The Original Maker, The Original Moulds” means precisely what it says!

    I’ll go on to explain a little more of the history of the project and the background to the moulds and the “prototype” helmets over the following points.

    1 All plastic moulding companies have a mould store. The time and effort in making moulds does not warrant throwing them away after the initial production run. We have had a mould store in the North of England since the mid 1970's where we have stored hundreds of moulds we made before and after this project including those for films such as Alien, Flash Gordon, Outland and Space 1999.

    2 When working on Film and Television projects, there is always the real possibility of the film being a success. Hence the further need for the moulds to be protected and therefore available for follow-on work and another obvious reason to store the moulds. We also kept all records of Invoices, Purchase Orders and VAT records relating to the project. Normal business practice requires that records are kept for 6 years, and so clearly these records in our possession after 30 years show's our intention to be involved at some future date. That date has now come, and without the moulds the records would be of little use.

    3 The moulds to make the rubber trims for the helmets were already in store, as they were extrusion moulds relating to our car production. Such a crossover of use for a mould is common, and hence a further reason for not throwing moulds away.

    4 Moulds do not degrade from non use. If they are strong enough to hold up to the heat and pressure of a vacuum forming process, there is nothing in storage that is going to affect their structure.

    5 In the case of the Stormtrooper moulds, the extremities that either take considerable wear in use or are vulnerable in storage have been refurbished. One area is the edging to the `teeth` on the face of the Stormtrooper / Imperial Pilot (same mould). The other area is around the left hand side looking at the back of the helmet, where the tumblehome has been fettled in to align up better with the front face. This area always was a problem and annoyed me, as it caused misfitting of earpieces back in 1976. Given the length of time between the original being made and our new helmets we believe small items of refurbishments like these are totally realistic and understandable and without them the quality of product that you see today would not be as good.

    6 There is absolutely no reason to remake moulds, other than the refurbishment described above, and indeed this is the same for the Imperial Pilot and all the other characters that we currently have plans to bring back into production. For example, look at the crown of the Pilot Helmet, where there is a small `nick` out of the mould on the top edge - I just stopped myself repairing it in time - as I noticed the same nick on the screen version.

    7 The history behind the `serrated` trooper - When conceptualising the production methods for the Stormtrooper, the overriding consideration was that this character was not human and the head could not be seen to be human supporting a helmet. My initial preferred method of construction was either rotational moulding in PU or PE or slush moulding in PVC. This was to accommodate undercuts and tumblehomes, which would enhance the image of an all-enveloping head shape. However the restraints of budget and the pressure of time forced me to consider a quick compromise with vacuum formed sheet material. The tumblehome at the back of the helmet was problem in vacuum forming, as the moulding would not release from the mould. In an attempt to overcome this problem I conducted an experiment of the rear head detail by constructing a `U ` shaped piece of metal with the gable ends filled in. Over one edge I planted a flexible car heater hose supported well enough to withstand the pressure of vacuum forming. After forming over the make-do mould, the flexible hose could be peeled out of the moulding giving me the tumblehome I required. Although this was no production method, the principle could be developed further to produce vacuum forming moulds that could possibly produce undercuts. After four or five attempts at the `lost hose` process I shelved this until a later date. Towards the end of my involvement in the film I re-visited the` Serrated` Stormtrooper. I took the back part of the helmet from the production item, which was being used on screen and cut off the lower rear section. Gluing on the serrated sections from the initial trials, it gave me a development of the Stormtrooper for future use. Several of the characters were conceived in this way, e.g.: the Imprial Pilot was a result of mating the face of a Stormtrooper and the back of a Rebel Pilot. By the time I increased the overall bulk, changed it to black, added a war like Mohawk, the `Imperial Pilot` grew an awesome presence.

    8 I’m aware of the interest in the issue regarding the composition of the original helmets. Let me be categorically clear on this point. The vast majority of the Stormtrooper helmets we produced were made from a batch of white ABS we ordered in after being given the go ahead by the Studio (as a relevant point the ABS order size was so huge it took us a long time to clear – long after the project was complete). My team here who worked with me on the original film are also absolutely clear on this issue. Irrespective of our own clear memories of the project it is inconceivable to suggest that we could have produced the glossy body armour in one material, with the helmets in another. Especially a bumpy, painted material whose finish was so poor on the eye. Quite simply our contacts on the film would not have accepted them and quite rightly so! I am sure that some of the Polythene helmets probably did end up on screen, such were the demands for the film at that time, however I am absolutely positive that the vast majority were ABS and these would have taken a colossal pounding during filming. This point, along with the fact that it was industry practice to destroy all scenery and costumes/props such as this when filming completed, probably goes some way to explain why there are now problems locating original ABS helmets.

    It is a shame that so many of the supposed question marks raised over my current production have come from the very people who have had the benefit from capitalising on my original work over the past years. This I find quite complimentary and wish them the best of luck with their endeavours. However, I cannot help who I am and I cannot help that my production of replica helmets come from the original moulds and the original hands that made the screen-used items in the first place.

    I will continue to bring back all the characters we worked on at Shepperton Design Studios, and as an artist derive immense satisfaction from the joy that this project brings to so many.

    Wishing you a Happy New year

    Yours sincerely

    Andrew Ainsworth
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    Tel +44 (0)208 898 4839
    Fax +44 (0)208 755 0981 "
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    Dec 6, 2010, 7:54 PM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #22

    TK765 said: View Post
    8 I’m aware of the interest in the issue regarding the composition of the original helmets. Let me be categorically clear on this point. The vast majority of the Stormtrooper helmets we produced were made from a batch of white ABS we ordered in after being given the go ahead by the Studio (as a relevant point the ABS order size was so huge it took us a long time to clear – long after the project was complete). My team here who worked with me on the original film are also absolutely clear on this issue. Irrespective of our own clear memories of the project it is inconceivable to suggest that we could have produced the glossy body armour in one material, with the helmets in another. Especially a bumpy, painted material whose finish was so poor on the eye. Quite simply our contacts on the film would not have accepted them and quite rightly so! I am sure that some of the Polythene helmets probably did end up on screen, such were the demands for the film at that time, however I am absolutely positive that the vast majority were ABS and these would have taken a colossal pounding during filming. This point, along with the fact that it was industry practice to destroy all scenery and costumes/props such as this when filming completed, probably goes some way to explain why there are now problems locating original ABS helmets.
    Doesn't this statement essentially go in the face of a LOT of photographic evidence that would indicate the bulk of the troopers were painted HDPE? Is this new or has Andrew been making this claim from the beginning?
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    Dec 6, 2010, 11:15 PM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #23

    No it's not a new statement. It was there right from the begining when customers wanted HDPE replicas as they were more accuate. It's absolute crap as we know the stunts were HDPE and Heros were ABS.
    I would love to see an Screen ABS stunt but it will never happen as all evidence points to the contrary. Just more lies to sell his helmets.
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    Dec 6, 2010, 11:41 PM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #24

    SFPROPS said: View Post
    I can't imagine why.

    You would think that the casual buyer would get one of the nice EFX helmets, seeing how they are nice, licensed and don't really cost an arm and a leg.

    If they aren't educated about what they are buying, you'd think that if they'd ask around for what was the most accurate and reputable, someone who was knowledgeable would steer them away from Ainsworth and his scam.

    I have nothing against someone making a living, even someone making a living discreetly bending the rules in regards to copyright and intellectual property to a certain extent. I just can't imagine doing that, and having to lie about what it is you are selling to your customers and I don't think that given the vast amounts of evidence in this case, that he's doing anything other than telling lies in order to get people to give him money (fraud, the last time I checked.)
    With all due respect the eFX helmet the CE one is just a halloween mask it's not sold as or marketed as a high end collecters piece.
    Ainsworth markets his helmets as exact replicas of the original helmets not as toys which is essentially what the eFX CE is.
    Believe me there's no shortage of lazy people with money out there that will buy stuff at face value, SDS is a legit registered company so people take what they read as true because they figure a legit company has to tell the truth.
    Ainsworth isn't alone in stretching or exaggerating the truth in his marketing, whilst i don't like or approve of him doing that i know that a good deal of marketing on licensed collectable companies sites is also misleading so it seems hypocritic to berate him for it.
    The thing that annoyed me was he lied and continued to lie about sculpting the original sculpt thus taking away credit from the true artist who unfortunately and sadly is no longer alive, that to me is way beyond acceptable.
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    Dec 7, 2010, 5:07 AM - Re: Original ANH Stormtrooper helmet and Armor - Just the Facts #25

    SFPROPS said: View Post
    I thought I've seen some of these published somewhere? IIRC, they were even more reminiscent of the Metropolis robot. More feminine.
    Brian Muir posted one in this thread. It's the only alternative threepio I've seen yet. Interesting to hear there were more.

    http://www.therpf.com/f47/star-wars-...-found-101502/

    defstartrooper said: View Post
    Ainsworth isn't alone in stretching or exaggerating the truth in his marketing, whilst i don't like or approve of him doing that i know that a good deal of marketing on licensed collectable companies sites is also misleading so it seems hypocritic to berate him for it.
    Not if you berate the other licensed companies too, which I do. Lying about a product only creates angry and weary and distrusting customers that may be swayed against buying from you in the future... though... I guess there are enough people who doesn't care or want to educate themselves to keep these people in business and keep running the business on half-truths.

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