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    Jun 20, 2010, 3:00 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #26

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    Jun 20, 2010, 8:12 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #27

    The L200 foam looks very promising - I'm looking into that and will probably go that route if I do this.

    I've also gotton ahold of the episode of boston Legal where they wear the Buzz costumes - i'll post some better more analyzed pics up soon !
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    Jun 20, 2010, 10:16 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #28

    Sorry for the double post, but here are some really good images of the Boston Public costume.

    Parts - such as the white shell do appear to be wrapped in a PVC fabric. You can also see some wrinkles on one of the chest pieces which would lead me to believe they did the same with the green chest.

    But - take a look at the back part. There is some pretty great detail there - like that little circular gray disc thingy which leads me to believe they may have sculpted the back. Could you sculpt that in L200 foam ?

    There is also something neat I noticed. They have a nob thingy by their ass that they pull to eject their wings. Silly but interesting.

    Either way - here's some more pics, which i'm finding quite helpful:
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    Jun 21, 2010, 2:17 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #30

    Very Interesting Ash. I'm on LOH, but didn't catch that yet. Not really the direction I'd like to go - but it really is an interesting use of some of the techniques we've discussed - such as covering foam in lycra/pvc.

    Funny the way that Buzz's chest is shaped is exactly the shape I'm trying to avoid. He has more of a roundish torso which is easier said than done in foam.

    But for a week of work - that's very impressive ! Thanks for sharing !

    Moony
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    Jun 21, 2010, 2:30 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #31

    I personally started a thread on this because I wanted to tackle this but got side tracked with other projects. I seriously like the cruise ship version as it looks the most streamlined and easiest to move around in.

    My ideas where going to be to put speakers hidden in the chest piece and attempt to rig up the buttons so when pressed you'd hear the Tim Allen quotes from the movie.

    I'll get back to it one day and will be following your progress to get inspired.


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    Jun 21, 2010, 2:47 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #32

    I also would love to be able to put speakers in it and have it say phrases but was wondering how to go about this. I do remember years ago owning a plastic childrens costume chest piece that had the three buttons and said different phrases. I bet there would be a way to rig that, but I have no idea where it went to.

    I also REALLY want to add a laser and sound effects when you press the red arm button. That would be the the most essential interactive aspect to me.

    And I agree that the Cruise ship one looks the easiest to movie in. I'll probably be doing a combination of that one and the Boston public one.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 5:35 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #33

    for the wings, check out the backpack toy that should be out from the recent movie. I haven't seen one in person, only the picture, but it looks to use a design similar to those fake knives, where the tip retracts into the blade.
    indeed, the cruise ship version will be easier to replicate and move in. it was design to do so. the park costumes are meant for 15-20 minute stunts, being of fiberglass or vaccuformed. more than likely the former.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 8:23 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #34

    Mooniteman said: View Post
    I also would love to be able to put speakers in it and have it say phrases but was wondering how to go about this. I do remember years ago owning a plastic childrens costume chest piece that had the three buttons and said different phrases. I bet there would be a way to rig that, but I have no idea where it went to.

    I also REALLY want to add a laser and sound effects when you press the red arm button. That would be the the most essential interactive aspect to me.

    And I agree that the Cruise ship one looks the easiest to movie in. I'll probably be doing a combination of that one and the Boston public one.
    Laser should be no problem I've seen toy gun at kmart that sound and function similar. Just mod it into the suit.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 10:00 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #35

    I would assume that the "boston legal" costume (since it is an ABC show) just "borrowed" the costume from the disney parks in anaheim - it's exactly the same and it seems to make the most sense. I doubt the BL prop team is that good.

    Could someone post links on where to purchase some of the stuff talked about here: either the foam or the shell shock?

    thanks.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 10:08 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #36

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    It's a combination of both vinyl and fabric. You can get sheets of L-200 cut to any thickness. But in this case, it's probably 1/2" body and 3/8" arms and legs. Then they cover the foam with a liquid vinyl that sprays on with a large paint gun. If you do it right, no seams are seen afterward. Then it's just a matter of masking and painting the details. Or if you want, you can create the details separately and then cloth cover them in the colors (purple, green) and glue them on afterward. Considering the budget on the show, I can almost guarentee it was done this way, it's the cheapest and fastest way to create this.
    Hey wondersquid what would be a good base for the foam and fabric?
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    Jun 21, 2010, 10:42 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #37

    when that aired, I asked my friend in management at Disney about the cos and he said they were borrowed form the parks. SO yes, they are those I assume. I still like the live show one best for costume wearing at a con and the lights blink!!!!
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    Jun 21, 2010, 11:09 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #38

    You could purchase a large acrylic dome from a company that sells skylights, etc. Just google it.

    Paul D.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 11:15 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #39

    I don't understand why everyone thinks those are from the parks - they are very clearly not the same. If they are from the parks then they are not used currently or in any previous Disney production I can locate.

    Also the Boston Legal costumes have a pull tab on the back to release the wings, as you can see in some of the pics above. Which the parks definetly don't have. The park ones are solid and not foam or resin and the little details such as the laser, chest, wings, legs and joints are totally different.

    Look at the park pic:



    Boston Legal:



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    Jun 21, 2010, 11:17 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #40

    check out my link posted a few posts above
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    Jun 21, 2010, 11:26 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #41

    I saw that - Firefox - thanks for the resource ! I don't know if I'm gonna do the dome - as the only way to really do it would be to have half a dome like the play, which is just inaccurate. Although i may give it a whirl if it's not too expensive when this gets completed.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 11:53 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #42

    I don't think it would be that hard to have an "accurate" dome.
    The costume is "deep" enough to be able to hide part of the dome if necessary - so it would just be a matter of securing the dome at 2 points (are already there on the costume) so you can open the dome and close it if you wanted to. The dome would then roll in the back of the chest piece... I think that it could go far enough (your own back being where the dome would roll at its farthest) to have it clear your face.

    The real hard thing would be to automate this (only have a basic understanding of electronic - never touched a motor before)... but it's definitely something that is doable.

    However, having that dome there would make the suit even hotter to wear - it's going to be hot enough because it's all made of foam, having that dome over your head blocking air flow will only make it worst.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 12:04 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #43

    here is an older thread about it that has more pics fomr the musical.
    http://www.therpf.com/f24/buzz-lightyear-76444/
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    Jun 21, 2010, 1:17 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #44

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    Hey wondersquid what would be a good base for the foam and fabric?
    It's hard to describe, but if you build the foam right, it holds it's own shape thru the forms engineering. Think of it like a ball, if you build a ball as a number of slices glued to themselves (which is how a foam ball is made) you can actually cut out both the bottom and top to make it look like a tire, and it will still have the rounded shape because of the slices themselves have a patterned or curved shape to them, they force the foam to bend and curve into this form. The glue only helps keep the form solid because it's attached to similar shapes that combine to form the whole. (Hope that helps, but man, my head hurts. I just need to write a book on the subject and sell copies to anyone who asks)
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    Jun 21, 2010, 1:45 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #45

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    It's hard to describe, but if you build the foam right, it holds it's own shape thru the forms engineering. Think of it like a ball, if you build a ball as a number of slices glued to themselves (which is how a foam ball is made) you can actually cut out both the bottom and top to make it look like a tire, and it will still have the rounded shape because of the slices themselves have a patterned or curved shape to them, they force the foam to bend and curve into this form. The glue only helps keep the form solid because it's attached to similar shapes that combine to form the whole. (Hope that helps, but man, my head hurts. I just need to write a book on the subject and sell copies to anyone who asks)

    uhh... so your essentially saying to build the pieces into shape with layers?
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    Jun 21, 2010, 4:47 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #46

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    uhh... so your essentially saying to build the pieces into shape with layers?
    to get your basic shape, no. I'll try to break it down a bit simpler. Get and orange, cut it into 8 equal wedges. Peel the skin from the delicious goodness inside and save the skin. Each section of skin is known as a "gore". These sections can then be put back together to get the shape of the orange again. Make sense?

    Now to get more complex shapes, you'll have a lot more cutting and re-gluing.

    If you've ever used primitives to 3d model, it might me easier for you to visualize.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 6:12 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #47

    i got some ideas as well.being new here id like to ask if can post progress as well as questions in this same thread rather then starting a new one. Its my first time going for something big and cool. ill also need advise on bondo versus fiberglass.
    im hoping to do the opening dome by buying an oversized plastic dome and cutting them in half. then over lapping them like the toy.
    i also found an old electronics project i did that has the lazer sound of buzz light year.plus is has leds that i can attach to the glove part.

    i found this..
    Buzz Lightyear costume
    and thought i could do this with bondo.

    ive been looking at these threads for awhile.buzz is definitely going to be fun.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 9:26 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #48

    wondersquid said: View Post
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    It's hard to describe, but if you build the foam right, it holds it's own shape thru the forms engineering. Think of it like a ball, if you build a ball as a number of slices glued to themselves (which is how a foam ball is made) you can actually cut out both the bottom and top to make it look like a tire, and it will still have the rounded shape because of the slices themselves have a patterned or curved shape to them, they force the foam to bend and curve into this form. The glue only helps keep the form solid because it's attached to similar shapes that combine to form the whole. (Hope that helps, but man, my head hurts. I just need to write a book on the subject and sell copies to anyone who asks)
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I don't know much about fabrics and soft foams, I do mostly prop stuff out of woods, plastics and metals. If Moon goes ahead with a hard foam/fiber/bondo option I might join him.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 10:48 PM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #49

    Batdemon - that was exactly what I was trying to say, thank you! If you ever want to work together, I'd love to have you.
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    Jun 22, 2010, 1:42 AM - Re: Buzz Lightyear Costume Ideas #50

    JOEE - Please share ANYTHING you have done.

    This is not my thread - this is about constructing a Buzz Lightyear costume. It's of course open to all input and progress !

    I also think the foam route may be what I take since I've watched my brother struggle with bondo and it just seems to be a freaking ***** and a half. I also feel with foam it would be much lighter and less likely to break and become cumbersome.

    And I think the Link : Buzz Lightyear Costume - is very interesting. That is basically the approach I would take in foam.

    Now hypotheyically if I went with the L200 foam would there be something I could cover it in rather than fabric? Whats this shell shock stuff you guys have refereed to ? Got any examples ?

    I'm loving the input on this so far - it's really got me going ! I just need to commit to some foam and jump in !

    Moony

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