astroboy
Master Member
In all honesty, I'm so dissatisfied with these big assed movies that it isn't hard to avoid trailers any more. I just don't click them because I'm rarely that interested.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (Post-release)
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We saw it today and liked it. The only spoiler I knew going in was Kurt Russel being Quills dad. I thought young Ego was the best CGI and couldnt figure it out until I read the post about makeup. It was flawless, the best make up work ever. Wife was like woah, how did they do that?
I appreciated the charter development and we shared many laughs. Still like the first one better but thoroughly enjoyed Vol 2 and will prolly watch it as many times as the first one.
I appreciated the charter development and we shared many laughs. Still like the first one better but thoroughly enjoyed Vol 2 and will prolly watch it as many times as the first one.
Abelugo
Sr Member
Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (Post-release) I liked it
Interesting thoughts definitely a bit high on the sappy part.
Emotional roller coaster in some parts.
They are just my thoughts, I will go see it again. I did like the movie, I also liked that it didn't have too much do with the bigger Marvel picture.
Interesting thoughts definitely a bit high on the sappy part.
Emotional roller coaster in some parts.
Any one have issues with some of the "suspension of disbelief" need for some of the characters? Or environments? OK there could be some of it where it comedy goofiness.
The large gun gun Gamora picks up? then while picking it up she fixes it to shoot (to make it believable that it would shoot? Not unlike the Rock doing that in the last FF movie!
Some of the plot device was the those batteries. Without that a lot of the storylines would not work.
Did anyone notice when Gamora went for a walk, she then was out way out in the desert?
Gamora and Nebula thrusting up in the column then just crashing into the cliff, seemed odd.
Or when Drax/Mantis is going up to the ship is was a Prometheus rolling ship moment?
I know some of these characters are supposed muscly well trained war machines, but some of them don't have superhuman strength, or non breaking bones, of skin that wouldn't burn next to very heavy thrusters.
So is the Milano gone? It looks like other ships on the Ravengers main ship were the same as the Milano.
I think we already know the answer for Starlord. He carries some of his father traits through his gene make up. He held the infinity stone in part 1.
So who s buying up a Zune, joke's on us!!
I thought the young Ego was a silicone mask, his head looked a bit big or something.
How about all the deaths, it makes them meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Same with the Ego plant blobs on all the planets.
The when a lead character dies we are supposed to feel for them much more?? I still thing Starlord will have more powers to reveal in the next movie..
The large gun gun Gamora picks up? then while picking it up she fixes it to shoot (to make it believable that it would shoot? Not unlike the Rock doing that in the last FF movie!
Some of the plot device was the those batteries. Without that a lot of the storylines would not work.
Did anyone notice when Gamora went for a walk, she then was out way out in the desert?
Gamora and Nebula thrusting up in the column then just crashing into the cliff, seemed odd.
Or when Drax/Mantis is going up to the ship is was a Prometheus rolling ship moment?
I know some of these characters are supposed muscly well trained war machines, but some of them don't have superhuman strength, or non breaking bones, of skin that wouldn't burn next to very heavy thrusters.
So is the Milano gone? It looks like other ships on the Ravengers main ship were the same as the Milano.
I think we already know the answer for Starlord. He carries some of his father traits through his gene make up. He held the infinity stone in part 1.
So who s buying up a Zune, joke's on us!!
I thought the young Ego was a silicone mask, his head looked a bit big or something.
How about all the deaths, it makes them meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Same with the Ego plant blobs on all the planets.
The when a lead character dies we are supposed to feel for them much more?? I still thing Starlord will have more powers to reveal in the next movie..
PantheraGem
Sr Member
Really glad we didn't get a "Peter gets drunk with power and the rest of the gang have to convince him to turn against his father" section of the movie. Peter getting the message loud and clear on his own was much more satisfying.
Baby Groot's cry when he became trapped in Ego was "Awww" inducing.
Rooker stole the movie, and Gunn made sure that was going to happen. Just an amazing performance.
Overall, I thought it was a great sequel. Didn't waste time retreading the first movie and built on the characters we already knew they were.
Baby Groot's cry when he became trapped in Ego was "Awww" inducing.
Rooker stole the movie, and Gunn made sure that was going to happen. Just an amazing performance.
Overall, I thought it was a great sequel. Didn't waste time retreading the first movie and built on the characters we already knew they were.
MrSouthpaw
Sr Member
Wonder if he can still handle an Infinity Gem like the first movie.
Father
Sr Member
Yeah... I'll be a little disappointed if the celestial side of him is completely gone.
astroboy
Master Member
For me he works best as an everyday dude. A screwup with an ego. He has toys like batman or ironman. That works for him
joeranger
Sr Member
Took my boys. Loved it. I sat through the entire movie thinking. "OMG, all of this for $10"?
I kept thinking about some Disney acct suggesting they should charge more since so much thought went into every aspect of the movie.
"Maybe we should split this into two movies and just drag out some of the scenes..."
I kept thinking about some Disney acct suggesting they should charge more since so much thought went into every aspect of the movie.
"Maybe we should split this into two movies and just drag out some of the scenes..."
Checked it out last night at an 11:00 PM screening!
Overall I really liked it. Much more than the first. It's not perfect, but I gotta be pretty picky to find the faults.
RANDOM THOUGHTS! (Spoilers?)
The Good:
- De-aging on Kurt Russell, or however they did it, was GREAT.
- I love ELO Mr Blue Sky, so that being the title sequence song was a big win. And my favorite Buffy episode is "The Zeppo" so seeing Groot get his "The Zeppo" moment and just dance away while the chaos happens behind him was great. Pandering, but great. I smiled the whole time.
- People say this is jokier than the first. I disagree. I think they each have the same amount of jokes, these just landed better.
- It's DIALOGUE PORN. I loved the conversations.
- It made me like Yondu. I didn't care for him in the first, here he was MAYBE my favorite thing.
- Never mind Drax is my favorite thing. Every line landed. His insensitivity to Mantis' looks were hilarious.
- Mantis is WAY better than I thought she would be. Cute to boot.
- The bet over Mantis antennae was great "If it's to not get decapitated he wins, anything else I win" (Paraphrasing)
- Loved the sister "C Story". Actually really liked Gamorra (sp?) this time around. Nebula is a great LOOKING character, design wise, but not sure I actually like her that much. Still looks like Rachel Leia Cook to me (good thing)
- I love the idea of a god planet as the villain. Way more interesting than blue light beams again. *cough* Dark Tower *cough*
- Totally got sucked into the emotional moments.
- Speaking of emotional... love that the second Kurt Russell said he put a tumor in Quill's mother's head, all need for a father was gone and Quill just shot him up to hell.
- Is Yondu's whistle arrow one of the great, original weapons of the last few decades? Such a neat idea.
- Ravager slaughter was great. Putting on tunes to murder them too
- Sean Gunn.... GREAT! I actually quite like Gilmore Girls, so seeing him in this flick in this capacity was great.
- Such a great looking film. Much better design than the first.
- The funeral and Sean Gunn's reaction... nailed.
Anyway I could go on and on... It's just a really fun movie.
The Not so Good:
There isn't a LOT to complain about... but here goes...
- Drax didn't actually fight... did he? In the first battle he did, though to no effect, the rest he just sort of threw out jokes (not a bad thing)
- A little too crazy with the 500 CG ships buzzing around, firing everywhere. Who can follow that? It seems to happen a lot lately, and in both Guardian movies (Star Trek Beyond had this issue as well)
- Some expositional dialogue was a little clunky.
- I thought the whole "gun that magically repairs ships" was a weird decision.
- After watching them jump through star systems, and crash on a planet with Drax hanging from the back with Gamora hanging on to him, and surviving, I didn't really feel like either of them were capable of being killed. Kind of kills any tension.
Final thought!
THAT'S A TEAM!
This movie shows exactly what's wrong with Rogue One. THIS is a team. This is (was) a diverse group of different species, genders fighting together against an enemy and genuinely feel like they've become a team. I mean they too had to find a weakness in a killer planet, and I cared about each of them and felt like they actually cared about each other.
Even when the first flick ended you felt like "yeah... these guys will still hang out together" and so you buy it when they're fighting again as a team to stop a battery eating alien. When Rocket shows Drax that he too stole batteries, and Drax laughs, you buy that they enjoy each other's antics.
Now think about Jyn Von No-smile, and Cassian Mc Snear-face and imagine them having adventures together in a world where everyone survived Rogue One. They're not going to jump in a ship with the boring gun-toting guy and the stick wielding non-Jedi. They would probably never talk to Goggles again.
The Guardians were in a serious situation, with real stakes, but still felt fun.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 made me actually think, "yeah... maybe 30 years from now there will be adults who look at this flick as their Star Wars".
Overall I really liked it. Much more than the first. It's not perfect, but I gotta be pretty picky to find the faults.
RANDOM THOUGHTS! (Spoilers?)
The Good:
- De-aging on Kurt Russell, or however they did it, was GREAT.
- I love ELO Mr Blue Sky, so that being the title sequence song was a big win. And my favorite Buffy episode is "The Zeppo" so seeing Groot get his "The Zeppo" moment and just dance away while the chaos happens behind him was great. Pandering, but great. I smiled the whole time.
- People say this is jokier than the first. I disagree. I think they each have the same amount of jokes, these just landed better.
- It's DIALOGUE PORN. I loved the conversations.
- It made me like Yondu. I didn't care for him in the first, here he was MAYBE my favorite thing.
- Never mind Drax is my favorite thing. Every line landed. His insensitivity to Mantis' looks were hilarious.
- Mantis is WAY better than I thought she would be. Cute to boot.
- The bet over Mantis antennae was great "If it's to not get decapitated he wins, anything else I win" (Paraphrasing)
- Loved the sister "C Story". Actually really liked Gamorra (sp?) this time around. Nebula is a great LOOKING character, design wise, but not sure I actually like her that much. Still looks like Rachel Leia Cook to me (good thing)
- I love the idea of a god planet as the villain. Way more interesting than blue light beams again. *cough* Dark Tower *cough*
- Totally got sucked into the emotional moments.
- Speaking of emotional... love that the second Kurt Russell said he put a tumor in Quill's mother's head, all need for a father was gone and Quill just shot him up to hell.
- Is Yondu's whistle arrow one of the great, original weapons of the last few decades? Such a neat idea.
- Ravager slaughter was great. Putting on tunes to murder them too
- Sean Gunn.... GREAT! I actually quite like Gilmore Girls, so seeing him in this flick in this capacity was great.
- Such a great looking film. Much better design than the first.
- The funeral and Sean Gunn's reaction... nailed.
Anyway I could go on and on... It's just a really fun movie.
The Not so Good:
There isn't a LOT to complain about... but here goes...
- Drax didn't actually fight... did he? In the first battle he did, though to no effect, the rest he just sort of threw out jokes (not a bad thing)
- A little too crazy with the 500 CG ships buzzing around, firing everywhere. Who can follow that? It seems to happen a lot lately, and in both Guardian movies (Star Trek Beyond had this issue as well)
- Some expositional dialogue was a little clunky.
- I thought the whole "gun that magically repairs ships" was a weird decision.
- After watching them jump through star systems, and crash on a planet with Drax hanging from the back with Gamora hanging on to him, and surviving, I didn't really feel like either of them were capable of being killed. Kind of kills any tension.
Final thought!
THAT'S A TEAM!
This movie shows exactly what's wrong with Rogue One. THIS is a team. This is (was) a diverse group of different species, genders fighting together against an enemy and genuinely feel like they've become a team. I mean they too had to find a weakness in a killer planet, and I cared about each of them and felt like they actually cared about each other.
Even when the first flick ended you felt like "yeah... these guys will still hang out together" and so you buy it when they're fighting again as a team to stop a battery eating alien. When Rocket shows Drax that he too stole batteries, and Drax laughs, you buy that they enjoy each other's antics.
Now think about Jyn Von No-smile, and Cassian Mc Snear-face and imagine them having adventures together in a world where everyone survived Rogue One. They're not going to jump in a ship with the boring gun-toting guy and the stick wielding non-Jedi. They would probably never talk to Goggles again.
The Guardians were in a serious situation, with real stakes, but still felt fun.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 made me actually think, "yeah... maybe 30 years from now there will be adults who look at this flick as their Star Wars".
Gunn handled this with such wonderful delicacy.
I'm soooo glad there wasn't a scene where Peter and Yondu have a moment for "honest" talk to explain everything to the audience (like the Luke and force ghost Obi-Wan scene in ROTJ). Peter: "Yondu, why didn't you tell me about my dad?" Yondu: "I don't know. At first I just was tired of bringing kids to Ego and I figured you'd be the first one I'd save. At first I thought I was teaching you to survive but then you got under my skin and I grew to love you ... as a son. I didn't ever want you to know the truth about your dad." 99% of directors/writers would have put in that kind of "sit down" exposition and it would have made me want to throw up. It would typically end with Peter storming off angry at Yondu for hiding the truth just so they could reconcile at the end. If that had happened I would have actually thrown up.
Gunn knows his audience is smarter than that. Yondu's thoughts, motives and sentiments are nested in comedic arguments with Quill, Rocket and others. e.g. Rocket's role in this movie is to be a complete ass to everyone just so he can have that confrontation where Yondu says he acts tough because he's scared - you think the scene is about revealing Rocket when it's subversively telling us about Yondu. Even where Yondu saves Quill - he doesn't say anything schlocky like, "you were a son to me" - instead he says, "He may have been your father but he wasn't your daddy." Which is wayyy cooler and also true to his character that he has to be indirect but you know exactly what he means.
I'm soooo glad there wasn't a scene where Peter and Yondu have a moment for "honest" talk to explain everything to the audience (like the Luke and force ghost Obi-Wan scene in ROTJ). Peter: "Yondu, why didn't you tell me about my dad?" Yondu: "I don't know. At first I just was tired of bringing kids to Ego and I figured you'd be the first one I'd save. At first I thought I was teaching you to survive but then you got under my skin and I grew to love you ... as a son. I didn't ever want you to know the truth about your dad." 99% of directors/writers would have put in that kind of "sit down" exposition and it would have made me want to throw up. It would typically end with Peter storming off angry at Yondu for hiding the truth just so they could reconcile at the end. If that had happened I would have actually thrown up.
Gunn knows his audience is smarter than that. Yondu's thoughts, motives and sentiments are nested in comedic arguments with Quill, Rocket and others. e.g. Rocket's role in this movie is to be a complete ass to everyone just so he can have that confrontation where Yondu says he acts tough because he's scared - you think the scene is about revealing Rocket when it's subversively telling us about Yondu. Even where Yondu saves Quill - he doesn't say anything schlocky like, "you were a son to me" - instead he says, "He may have been your father but he wasn't your daddy." Which is wayyy cooler and also true to his character that he has to be indirect but you know exactly what he means.
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joeranger
Sr Member
Not sure why this would be a spoiler, this is a spoiler thread. right?
I think raccoons are adorable. I love the Geico commercial where they are eating the garbage, ohh, this is disgusting, try this. I also love the new M&M promo where the raccoon is going boss level on the popcorn.
My brother has raccoons dig in his garbage all the time. It infuriates him. He hates them. Me calling them "Trash Pandas" really gets him going...
I think raccoons are adorable. I love the Geico commercial where they are eating the garbage, ohh, this is disgusting, try this. I also love the new M&M promo where the raccoon is going boss level on the popcorn.
My brother has raccoons dig in his garbage all the time. It infuriates him. He hates them. Me calling them "Trash Pandas" really gets him going...
I agree that line was perfect... I only wish the argument before in the ship was handled a *little* better... Don't remember exactly, but having them spell it all out...
"You needed me cuz I was small and could get through things" (the third time we've heard this now)
"Aw come on! How dumb are you? I obviously meant ....." (and goes into description of what he meant and eating was a joke)
Just felt an odd time to have the talk, and odd way of telegraphing that info.
*MINOR qualm*
'Guardians of the Galaxy 2' Debuts with $145 Million Domestically, Tops $425M Worldwide[/h] by Brad Brevet
May 7, 2017
Accounting for over 79% of the cumulative top ten gross, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 topped the domestic box office, showing a 54% increase compared to the 2014 original and giving Disney the top two openers of 2017 so far. Additionally, the film expanded its reach overseas, including openings in South Korea and China, the latter of which delivered the fourth largest opening in China to date for a film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, as the film's global cume has now topped $425 million in 13 days.
With an estimated $145 million opening weekend, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 topped the weekend box office and improved on the original 2014 release by 53.78%. Considering the $94.3 million opening for the original Guardians of the Galaxy was something of a surprise it's a spectacularly impressive result considering it's the largest jump for a second film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, among all sequels in the MCU only the 88.5% increase for Captain America: Civil War over Winter Soldier is better.
The opening is just a bit below the $147 million opening for Furious 7, which went on to gross $353 million domestically. That said, the average multiplier for an MCU film is 2.73, which would put Guardians 2 right at $395 million domestically and given the 3.53 multiplier for the first film it feels safe to assume we should expect at least that much and more likely a result over $400 million.
Helping matters further is the "A" CinemaScore, which is right in line with pretty much all MCU features, and don't be surprised to see that opening weekend total bump up a notch or two and perhaps finish right around $147 million. Audience demographics show the film playing to an audience that was 56% male vs. 44% female, and overall 22% of the audience as 25 years-old or younger and a whopping 72% of the audience were adults while only 9% were teenagers.
Internationally, Guardians 2 brought in an estimated $123.8 million this weekend as its international cume now stands at $282.6 million after 13 days. Added to the estimated opening domestically the film's global cume totals $427.6 million, which helps push the worldwide cume for the Marvel Cinematic Universe over $11.3 billion.
Highlights internationally include an estimated $48 million opening for Guardians in China, which is 75% ahead of the first film and nearly half of the first film's overall $96.4 million take in China. The film opened in Korea with an estimated $13.3 million and in Russia with an estimated $11.6 million. Next weekend the film will open in Japan (May 12), the film's final international market.
Digging deeper into the numbers approximately 41% of Guardians 2's weekend gross came from 3D ticket sales, led by China where 99% of all moviegoers saw the film in 3D. Elsewhere, Germany saw 80% of its sales attributed to 3D, Brazil (76%), Russia (52%), Hong Kong (43%), The Netherlands (90%), Colombia (85%) and Austria (85%). Also, $25 million of the global ticket sales came from IMAX theaters as the film played on 1,088 IMAX screens in 69 markets making it the widest opening in IMAX's history.
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Accounting for over 79% of the cumulative top ten gross, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 topped the domestic box office, showing a 54% increase compared to the 2014 original and giving Disney the top two openers of 2017 so far. Additionally, the film expanded its reach overseas, including openings in South Korea and China, the latter of which delivered the fourth largest opening in China to date for a film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, as the film's global cume has now topped $425 million in 13 days.
With an estimated $145 million opening weekend, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 topped the weekend box office and improved on the original 2014 release by 53.78%. Considering the $94.3 million opening for the original Guardians of the Galaxy was something of a surprise it's a spectacularly impressive result considering it's the largest jump for a second film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, among all sequels in the MCU only the 88.5% increase for Captain America: Civil War over Winter Soldier is better.
The opening is just a bit below the $147 million opening for Furious 7, which went on to gross $353 million domestically. That said, the average multiplier for an MCU film is 2.73, which would put Guardians 2 right at $395 million domestically and given the 3.53 multiplier for the first film it feels safe to assume we should expect at least that much and more likely a result over $400 million.
Helping matters further is the "A" CinemaScore, which is right in line with pretty much all MCU features, and don't be surprised to see that opening weekend total bump up a notch or two and perhaps finish right around $147 million. Audience demographics show the film playing to an audience that was 56% male vs. 44% female, and overall 22% of the audience as 25 years-old or younger and a whopping 72% of the audience were adults while only 9% were teenagers.
Internationally, Guardians 2 brought in an estimated $123.8 million this weekend as its international cume now stands at $282.6 million after 13 days. Added to the estimated opening domestically the film's global cume totals $427.6 million, which helps push the worldwide cume for the Marvel Cinematic Universe over $11.3 billion.
Highlights internationally include an estimated $48 million opening for Guardians in China, which is 75% ahead of the first film and nearly half of the first film's overall $96.4 million take in China. The film opened in Korea with an estimated $13.3 million and in Russia with an estimated $11.6 million. Next weekend the film will open in Japan (May 12), the film's final international market.
Digging deeper into the numbers approximately 41% of Guardians 2's weekend gross came from 3D ticket sales, led by China where 99% of all moviegoers saw the film in 3D. Elsewhere, Germany saw 80% of its sales attributed to 3D, Brazil (76%), Russia (52%), Hong Kong (43%), The Netherlands (90%), Colombia (85%) and Austria (85%). Also, $25 million of the global ticket sales came from IMAX theaters as the film played on 1,088 IMAX screens in 69 markets making it the widest opening in IMAX's history.
glunark
Sr Member
I'd like to think Yondu only fetched two kids to ego, and when he was dropping off the second one he was like "wheres the first one dude?" and he never really bought the answer ego gave him.
Then Peter was the next kid, and Yondo was like screw that, and maybe he only took Peter so that Ego wouldn't sent anyone else after him.
Then Peter was the next kid, and Yondo was like screw that, and maybe he only took Peter so that Ego wouldn't sent anyone else after him.
Snikt
Sr Member
Exactly this, his name is Ego for gods sake! :lol
Seriously though, I loved this movie. I dont understand how some people can say anything bad about this movie. The only parts that took me out of the immersion were a couple of bad CG shots (the part where drax came out of the slime, and when the ravager ate the bug, looked super fake). Going deeper into the characters were awesome, and the way it was done was amazing, well done by Gunn. I was choked up quite a few parts during this movie(them playing catch with the energy ball, yondu's death, and when Gunns brothers character says yes during the funeral) the emotional delivery was awesome by all the actors. They made you feel for nebula, which was definitely a character I wanted to know more about. I LOVED this movie. Aside from not knowing what to expect when watching the first one, I thought the music was better in the original. I didnt really know any songs on this one, and the one I did know was from the trailer, but I dont think the music was as much of a plot point as the first one so it didnt bother me. I do like the guardians theme though, and it was used perfectly in this. I gotta see this again, and I hope it makes all the money. Damn it. I love leaving the theatre being elated as much as I did after watching this movie.
Snikt
Sr Member
This is exactly how I feel, but you explain it WAY more eloquently than I could have. Thank you sir. Please continue your analysis/opinions because I feel the exact same way. Well put.
Father
Sr Member
I like the idea that he has some power still inside him that could be used again with the infinity stone for the Infinity Wars. I wouldn't want to see him going full immortal or anything, but I like the idea that he has a power that he doesn't understand and isn't something he can use outwardly so he still has to rely on his skills and gadgets.
cboath
Master Member
Thing is, you're immortal or your not. The only way Quill stays immortal is if he's actually immortal, or it's a gift ego can bestow on people if he chooses. The planet doesn't imbue Quill with immortality as it's not actually a planet, it's Ego with a shell around him. Kurt Russel is just an extemsion of himself that can travel our galaxy. The Kurt Russel body likely has to travel back to the planet every so often to regenerate for lack of a better term to go out exploring. Same with abilities. If Quill has the ability of a celestrial, he's got it. He didn't have it because of the planet, he just had it.
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