There's a lot more to the decision of whether to use practical miniatures or cgi than just the cost.
ILM Force Awakens CG ship renders. ULTRA high res.
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There's a lot more to the decision of whether to use practical miniatures or cgi than just the cost.
But it was a lot more fun! I miss those days. Building and shooting miniatures was the most fun I ever had doing VFX.
astroboy
Master Member
Storage is also a big issue. (I say this as a technical director in opera whose warehouse is only so big) i remember the doc on the prequels where they mentioned scrapping set pieces the day after shooting with them.
But with cgi, you can use them over and over again for free. The exact same model can appear in video games and even be sent to hasbro so they can ignore it completely.
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But with cgi, you can use them over and over again for free. The exact same model can appear in video games and even be sent to hasbro so they can ignore it completely.
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Yup, here was the beautiful 1/8 scale 70 foot long nuclear submarine model that we built for The Abyss:
And the same model the day after shooting wrapped:
Jaitea
Master Member
True dat. I really was referring to the issue of quality loss, and the optical process. I was lucky to have started with people doing in-camera effects and bipacks, along with hanging miniatures, glass shots, front screen, etc. Old school, but great looking. Even then, though, those methods were more restrictive when compared with motion control (the new kid on the block back then.) Fortunately, I was smart enough to appreciate my education as it was happening, though it did take me a few months to understand how lucky I was.
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Sourdoh
Sr Member
Dave G is the real deal. A hugely experienced VFX worker and supervisor that has litterally "been there, done that". He is a meticulous modeler and is up on the very latest technologies in the industry, and an accomplished artist in many media. He knows his stuff, and when he has time to post here, I listen very carefully!
Oh shucks S'Doh thanks! But my opinion's no more valid than anyone else's. That's what's great about the RPF, getting to hear from a variety of people. I'm just an opinionated "old fart"! Now just don't get me started on why widescreen 1:85 isn't "Scope"! :eek
I remember going to SMPTE meetings in the 90's here in LA and many a debate erupted over 2.39 vs 2.40.
....220, 221 whatever it takes ;-)
apb
4K or rather "4K" as they(Samsung, Sony etc) claim it to be isn't even 4K, just merely four times 1080p.
and Star Wars in 4K, already done by Reliance Media Works:
http://makingstarwars.net/2014/07/star-wars-iv-vi-converted-4k-16-bit-resolution
As long as Vader's saber isn't pink like it is on a few formats :facepalm
It really can't
Jaitea
Master Member
Yep the quality looks epic,....gone are the crushed blacks & the blue hue
......but when can we have it?
J
Jaitea
Master Member
It exists alright,....the footage in the Reliance Media shows it,.....the effect shots of Vader & Ben are pre SE,.....
...also Mike Verta had done some splendid work:
https://vimeo.com/mikeverta
J
rbeach84
Sr Member
Well, that is good news! Thanks for the tip, J.
Regards, Robert
PS: Now I've had a better look at Mike's work he is REALLY doing a bang-up job (not just technically but also analytically & artistically.)
Around the same time as True Lies most likely
12th of Never?
no idea,but supposedly both have been remastered and are just awaiting approval from Jim, but he's busy with the final three Avatar installments
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