Vader's MPP shroud (update)

Brass thumbscrew with nickel plating.

I have never seen steel shrouds even I have had 3 mpps in my hands.
However I didn't see any thick mpp shroud like the one used on the original prop, you can see it's closer to a parks replica than any genuine shroud I have seen for now.

About the number, some have, other have no number, and sometimes it's not under the shroud.

Maybe your clamp is for a different fixation, I know there are at least two different sizes of standarts clamps, the narrow, quite similar to graflex, and the large one, larger than graflex, a bubble doesn't fit inside.
 
Awesome to hear you're making some shrouds, and even better that you're doing it from steel. Please give some notice before you put up the run page. I really don't want to log in to find out they went on sale and sold out before I knew about the run.
 
An update to Roy's thread? He bought an MPP!? Lunch hour improved to 1,000%... Congrats! And add me to the Shroud list. Still need to convert my extra Heiland to ESB...
 
i think i'm confused, roy u are going to do a run of end caps as well?


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So, do we think the Vader shroud used is not genuine MPP?
Seems to be steel from photos. Has rust like steel. Has a thicker edge unlike most real MPP shrouds. The thumbscrew, although similar to the MPP screw in size and general shape, has a different knurl and is likely made of a different material...
This would be great news for 2-step owners.
 
Well if the inner edge is a lot thicker than usual on an MPP shroud then the propmakers most certainly were capable of doing a conversion on a lathe or whatever contraption to go from 2 step into a 1 step shroud . . . it's the same kind of creative thinking like the male to female conversion of an OB1's Balance Pipe ... I'd reckon, ... what do you guys think? :wacko

Chaïm
 
I think we need to find the original props and find out what they used. Lol

But seriously, I'm truly amazed with how some members come up with detailed specs from photos. Thank you math geniuses. I know to you, it's a simple equation, but for most of us, it's a real pain in the backside.:thumbsup
 
we could be over thinking this. maybe MPP at one time had aluminum shrouds, and realized it was cheaper to product them with cast steel? this is why many MPP owns have aluminum shrouds, and the casino saber has a steel shroud?

idk im just basing this idea off my experiences with automotive parts..
 
The MPP with the black sidebars, which was used
on screen, had a thin edge shroud, as far as I can
deduce from this crappy picture :

MPP%20ANH%20V2_zpsobxcrjru.jpg


Agree everyone?

Chaïm
 
Sym-Cha said:
The MPP with the black sidebars, which was used on screen, had a thin edge shroud, as far as I can deduce from this crappy picture :

Agree everyone?
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This is such an odd sentence; I hope it's a joke. You're going to present an idea while undercutting it? "I believe this to be true and support my claim with this shoddy material". :confused

As far as the interest in the new production of shrouds are concerned, considering how the real ones seem to all vary a little from one to another, I thought the one produced for the cut-Alu was pretty spot on (considering it had measurements taken from a real MPP shroud) and works great on my Heiland. Whatever direction Roy goes in going forward, I have no doubt the end result will be pretty great, regardless of these finaglely little quibbles.
 
PoopaPapaPalps said:
This is such an odd sentence; I hope it's a joke. You're going to present an idea while undercutting it? "I believe this to be true and support my claim with this shoddy material". :confused

As far as the interest in the new production of shrouds are concerned, considering how the real ones seem to all vary a little from one to another, I thought the one produced for the cut-Alu was pretty spot on (considering it had measurements taken from a real MPP shroud) and works great on my Heiland. Whatever direction Roy goes in going forward, I have no doubt the end result will be pretty great, regardless of these finaglely little quibbles.
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Uhh, he's just basically saying that "I believe [X], but can't state it as 100% fact due to my belief being based upon imperfect source material." Dude, we speculate like this every day, and qualifying our beliefs or tentative conclusions doesn't "undercut" them. It just humbly and factualy admits that such a belief may indeed need to be adjusted if/when better source material upon which to base a conclusion eventually presents itself.

Sym-Cha said:
The MPP with the black sidebars, which was used
on screen, had a thin edge shroud, as far as I can
deduce from this crappy picture :

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz258/Sym-Cha/MPP ANH V2_zpsobxcrjru.jpg

Agree everyone?

Chaïm
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I agree that the pic quality isn't great, but if I HAD to choose based solely on that pic, I'd say that shroud looked to be normal/thin-walled.
 
I like your line of thinking. I work on a lathe at least 6 days a week (usually 7) and I have never once thought of turning down one of my Heiland 2 steps. (not perfect but better than having a box of them doing nothing) Next time I put the 4 jaw chuck on Im going to try this out.

I agree anything Roy makes will turn out great and I am stoked that he is making these out of steel. :)

Sym-Cha said:
Well if the inner edge is a lot thicker than usual on an MPP shroud then the propmakers most certainly were capable of doing a conversion on a lathe or whatever contraption to go from 2 step into a 1 step shroud . . . it's the same kind of creative thinking like the male to female conversion of an OB1's Balance Pipe ... I'd reckon, ... what do you guys think? :wacko

Chaïm
Click to expand...
 
PoopaPapaPalps said:
This is such an odd sentence; I hope it's a joke. You're going to present an idea while undercutting it? "I believe this to be true and support my claim with this shoddy material". :confused
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Hm, I see and validate your point of view ... yet history has proven men/women to produce even more shady evidence and without pictures to convince others of their believe systems :lol ... however such a debate would become way to philosophical to persue on these forums, which are mainly all about replicating the many movie props we love :)

That said I found this picture of an MPP shroud in an ebay auction some time ago and it has a weird shape altogether ... yet it was genuine :

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And I purchased a cut-up MPP originally 2 step shroud from Kurtyboy, which I completely forgot I had, and the edge maybe rather thin for putting it under a lathe as I suggested earlier :

MPP-Shroud_zpsy4xwr0et.jpg


I intended to make a ROTJ emitter part with this cut-up MPP shroud and some Magic Sculpt to put on a G R A F L E X ... alas it's still in my stash of parts.

:wacko

Chaïm
 
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