Han Solo Holster - Screen Accurate Pattern

ImperialWalker · Feb 9, 2015

Uncharted Leather said:
Here are a few other photos that really show how the ANH holster has no stitches on the pouches. I believe each pouch is formed around a block and then attached with rivets. You could sew the bottom of the pouches but you would not be able to sew the sides. The trick is to line up the holes in the back of the pouches to the holes in the belt. There are a few other differences when you compare the ANH holster with the other holsters used in Empire and Jedi. The first is the groove line on the belt and the holster. The second is the placement of the leg strap. In ANH the leg strap is positioned at the bottom of the holster. In the other two movies the leg strap is several inches higher.

Man, I've seen many of these photos kicking around in my searches, but it makes so much difference when they are good quality. Of course, it almost always means I have to go back and change a bunch of stuff, but that is okay.

Pouches

I'm not able to visualize how the pouches are attached by rivets. The best I can gather is that the bottom of the pouch is longer, and loops around to attach to the leather (like the button pouch), but that wouldn't account for how the top stays put.

Differences

I have accounted for the groove line, and that is currently in the plans. It is good that you reminded me about the leg strap position.

I am currently working on the "Y" and holster, and aside from having to to back an do these pouches is one of the last things I need to do. It is however one of the most difficult parts because I don't actually have a blaster to work from, and creating the exact shape of the "Y" leather so it actually fits correctly is turning out to be a huge pain.

Changes

Based on the photos you've just posted, here are the changes I am making.

- Designing a new ANH hook for the "Y" belt (it does not have the same length or bend as the ROTJ version)
- Adjusting the length of the hook end on the "greebly" side.
- Moving the buttons on the belt to the proper positions
- Redesigning ANH pouches.

Uncharted Leather · Feb 10, 2015

Here is another photo that may help you. You can clearly see how the connecting buckles on the "Y" strap are different! I'm away from my workshop today but I will try and make a few sample pouches tomorrow to help show how I think they were attached to the belt.

Paul

Robstyley · Feb 10, 2015

Brilliant thread! I too want to make a full Solo ANH costume. I will be referring back to this when I get to the belt. I'm actually going to start with the clothes first, I want to make them from scratch to fit me. I will do the belt/holster last as it's prob the hardest for me. Great work so far, love the attention to detail.

ImperialWalker · Feb 10, 2015

Uncharted Leather said:
Here is another photo that may help you. You can clearly see how the connecting buckles on the "Y" strap are different! I'm away from my workshop today but I will try and make a few sample pouches tomorrow to help show how I think they were attached to the belt.

Paul

Awww, man!!

That photo has had me pulling my hair out since you posted it.

The photo you posted yesterday prompted me to redesign the ANH "Y" buckles, and they worked perfectly. Now, with this new photo, I am really struggling to figure out how that slit on the left connector, actually works with the buckle and the leather.

If I model the connector as close as I can, the range of swing motion is drastically reduced. It also requires the connector to be slid overtop the bar that holds the leather, before you attach it to the peg. Here, perhaps a photo will make more sense.

As you can see, in order to get even a reasonable range, I had to widen the slit a bit. Of course, it is kinda hard to tell on that photo with the angles and such, and so it could be wider than it seems.

With the slit that wide, that is the maximum range of motion the connecter has. I suppose that (or less) might be perfectly reasonable considering it really doesn't need that much range.

EDIT

Something else that is really bothering me is the layer of these connectors. If you look at it from the back, the order it appears goes.

Buckle - Leather Belt - "Y" Connector

Meaning, more often then not, it appears like the "Y" connector falls closest to the body. The problem is that this design wouldn't really allow for that.

The "Y" connector has to be closest to the buckle, and then the leather on top of it to allow it to freely move around the loop. It seems to shift around in different images, making this really hard to pin down.

Sym-Cha · Feb 10, 2015

Wow ... this certainly changes a lot about the design of ANH vs. ESB/ROTJ ... so I guess my belt and holster are more ESB than ANH due to those stitches on the pockets :wacko

Chaim

ImperialWalker · Feb 11, 2015

Smugglers Holster
v1.0

Hey Guys, thanks for the feedback. I decided, based on some feedback, to go back and put together a few images to ponder.

Buttons/Disk - Episode IV

Using a screen cap, and using the image posted by Uncharted Leather, I fired up Photoshop and attempted to once again determine some measurements my duplicating the buttons on multiple parts of the holster.

While this is obviously a crude way of doing this, it does help in that I know the standard diameter of the buttons that are available today, and I don't see them using anything custom in 1977.

So, from there, we can visually see how many "button lengths" things are, if we can determine the button size used.

...here is where things get a little bit wonky.

Butt-on...the-other-hand...

Here is a 100% scale image I just put together. (sorry for the size, but I wanted to make sure we weren't being thrown off by scaling issues).

So, to break this down.

On the left I have added a 2" belt, along with three potential sizes for the "disk". On the left of each disk (Red) are the 15mm - 0.590" buttons. On the right (Blue) are the 16mm - 0.629" buttons.

This allows us to see exactly how the different sized buttons look on different sized disks. Now, lets hop over to the right.

Here are the two images photoshopped using the cloned buttons. This is where my brain starts jumping back and fourth between what I think, and what I think two minutes later.

If I look at the buttons right next to the disk on both images, I would be convinced the buttons are 16mm. However, if I look at other parts of the holster, I am convinced that the buttons are 15mm.

Now, I could go off on a bunch of theories as to why they look different, but if I had to choose, I would say that the buttons next to the disk on both images point...ever so slightly to 16mm buttons.

Disk-covery

If we can agree that the buttons are in fact 16mm - 0.629" then we can turn our attention to the disk itself.

To my eyes, there is no way the disk is 1", or over 1.25". When I look at the buttons on top of the disk, I see that the hight of the disk is slightly less than the width of two buttons.

Here, we have 16mm buttons, compared to a 30.16mm - 1.1875" disk. Looks pretty close, no?

Right Height

We still haven't looked at the height of the disks, or whether the diameter is the same for the other films, but I think this is a good starting point.

I have been in contact with a popular vendor that sells a version of the disk. He has shown interest in this, and has mentioned that he is open to adjusting his product to be more accurate if we discover something.

I think we are getting there, and I appreciate the help!

oklahams · Feb 11, 2015

( I LOVE THIS FORUM!! )

Great post Crazylegsmurphy!!! This kind problem solving and attention to detail
is what I REALLY enjoy about making my own projects! And the length that you
are working toward is fantastic. I will be keeping my eye on your progress and
wishing you lots of luck with this project!

nick daring · Feb 11, 2015

I love hardcore research. Great work.

ImperialWalker · Feb 11, 2015

Smugglers Holster
v1.0

Pouches - Episode IV

The other big question of the day are these ANH pouches. How were they made, how were they attached, and what are the exact details?

I'm going to spend a few moments presenting my hypothesis, with as much evidence as I currently have available.

Leather

It is very hard for me to tell based on the images available, but I am fairly certain that the leather thickness is not the same as the ESB, and ROTJ versions.

The leather in the other movies seems to be somewhere between 5oz (5/64 - 2.0mm) and 6oz (3/32 - 2.4mm). On this version of the holster, I would guess that the leather is between 3oz (3/64 - 1.2mm) and 4oz ( 1/16 - 1.6mm) to 6oz (3/32 - 2.4mm).

The reason is that it doesn't seem to be as stiff as the other holsters, and because where you can see the edges, it doesn't appear to be anywhere near as thick.

We will come back to this in a moment.

Design

In the other two holsters, it is unarguable that each pouch is made up of a separate piece that was shaped, then sewn to the main belt. In this version however, there is evidence to suggest that the pouches were formed out of a single piece of leather, which were formed to shape, then attached. Lets take a look.

In images (C) and (D) it is most apparent that it is a single piece of leather. If you look along the side of each pouch, there are no breaks in the leather. You can also see that there is a continuous line along the top and bottom of the pouches, that connect the next one.

If this is correct, we can leave that for a moment and think about how these were attached.

How Riveting!?

It has been suggested that these pouches were formed around a shape, and then riveted to the belt. While I agree with the first part, the second is what has me confused. Lets take a look at a drawing I made.

What I have illustrated are two different ways the pouches could be attached.

The Top/Left image illustrates a single piece of leather, that must be glued to the leather belt below. The reason I say must, is because even if the front flap was fed through the inside, and riveted, the pouch would simply unfold as there is nothing anchoring the sides.

In this case, I suggest that there were no rivets involved, but that the pouches were simply glued to the leather belt.

In the Bottom/Right image, we see the idea that the pouches were separate, and attached by folding the back, and sides under itself, and attaching them via rivets, glue, or thread.

That said.....

Leather or not?

Here is where I start to question things. At this point, I am personally convinced that the pouches are in fact one long piece of leather, formed around shapes, and glued to the belt.

What I am not convinced of, is what happens at the end of the pouches, and whether the button pouch is the same.

Lets concentrate on the left (looking from the front) pouches for a moment.

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Going back to the images above, if we look at image (C) and (E) and then at the very back pouch we see where my confusion sets in. On (E) it appears as though the leather ends, and curves itself under, attaching like the Bottom/Right image above. However, looking at (C) that defining line seems to not be as pronounced, suggesting that perhaps the leather extends long the entire length of the belt.

I am very much leaning towards it curling under, and ending there, but I'm not 100% convinced.

That said, if we turn our attention to (E) and look at the very front (where the canister greebly is), it does appear that the leather continues under the hook.

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Button Pouch.

Here is where things get a little strange. If we look again at images (B) and (E), and focus on the side of the button pouch, it is unclear how it is attached. One could automatically assume it was attached like the Bottom/Right illustration above, but what seems to be missing is the definite line of leather that has been tucked under.

To me, I am unsure if I am looking at the leather folding under the pouch, or outwards along the belt.

The consequence of doing one over the other is fairly significant. If the pouches fold under (Bottom/Right) then we don't have an issue. If however, the leather goes outwards along the belt, we then have to ask ourselves where that leather ends.

That brings me back to what I was talking about at the start. The 1/8 crease in the leather appears on the surface to be made with the same method used on almost all leatherwork. However if we look at the leather at the front and in the middle of the pouches (E) it does look like the crease might be a result of there being leather on top of leather.

The crease along the length of the belt could be due to it being two pieces of leather, or it could be a result of both leather and a crease being present.

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Conclusions and Confusions

I think I have most of the questions I had answered. It seems pretty obvious to me there are no stitches, and that these pouches (barring any new information) were made form a single piece, formed, and then glued to the 2" belt underneath.

For me, the questions that still need answering are:

1. Does the leather fold under at the end of the pouches, and both sides of the button pouch, or does it continue along the entire length?
2. Is the crease we are seeing in the belt due to an actual crease, a result of a piece of leather on top of the belt, or both?
3. Does the button pouch extend under the hook, or fold under?
4. What is the exact thickness of the leather?

Extras

While I have your attention, I want to direct your brains towards a few little bits and such that I though worthy of consideration.

- Look at (E) and (B) at the button pouch. Look under the button a little ways. Does anyone see what appears to be a little hole?

- Look at (D) and (E), at the side/top of the disk. Does anyone see what appears to be a "notch"?

GBRyker61 · Feb 11, 2015

Crazylegsmurphy said:
Hello Everyone,

For some time now I have wanted to create a close to screen accurate as possible Han Solo costume. I figured a good a place as any to start would be the holster.

The problem is that while there are some options out there, and some tutorials, none of them really seem to be as screen accurate as I would like. Or, if they are, they are way more pricy than I would like to pay. Either way, I could purchase one and be done with it, but as a former make-up FX / prop artist, I just can't justify buying what I am pretty sure I can make...and well, making it is the funnest part in my opinion.

For a while now I have been looking for a place to start. Naturally the best place would be a pattern. Unfortunately patterns seem to be very rare, and those that are out there seem to be based off of already inaccurate holsters.

My goal, is to create the most accurate holster pattern possible, and then go on to create the actual holster. This thread will focus only on the pattern, and I will link to another thread when I start building the real thing. So, that said, lets get started.

Goals:

To create the most accurate ESB Holster possible.
To end up with a printable pattern that I can make available to everyone.
Expand the pattern at a later date to include ANH and RotJ.

Expectations/Desires:

I am here to create the most accurate holster pattern possible, not stroke my ego, or feel warm and fuzzy. When I ask for feedback, I want it as honest as possible. Don't worry at all about hurting my feelings. The only way something is going to get done right, is if we can all agree that you don't have to hold back, or spare my feelings.

I want every and all thoughts, evidence, and feelings you can come up with.I come from a well known Indiana Jones forum, and so I am used to people presenting every little bit of info they think is right. I am willing to entertain any idea supported by evidence.

I don't want to abandon this project. To many half finished links are floating around out there, and it is super frustrating for someone who thinks they've hit the right trail, only to find a dead link, or abandoned post.

Timeline:

I am really hoping to go as Han Solo for the Calgary Comic Expo at the end of April. So, my timeline for this project is quite quick. I would like to have the pattern done in no more than a month and a half.

Version 1.0:

Ok, so after that super long intro, here is where I am at. Most of the layers are hidden to avoid confusion, but what I am concentrating on right now is getting the "Y" piece and the holster accurate. I have added in a 1:1 scale ESP DL-44 for reference.

The main problems I'm having are that I can't seem to figure out the proper shape for the holster, and the "Y" piece. Having started with a 2" belt, I have built everything around that idea. This is the best measurement I can guess based on the many photos.
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So, what do you guys think?

Quick question. The holster pattern you have is for an ESB DL-44 blaster. Can it be adapted for an ANH DL-44 Blaster?

ImperialWalker · Feb 11, 2015

GBRyker61 said:
Quick question. The holster pattern you have is for an ESB DL-44 blaster. Can it be adapted for an ANH DL-44 Blaster?

I am currently in the process of creating a pattern for each version of the holster. If all goes according to plan, there will be as close to screen accurate as possible pattern for all versions, and their respective differences.

GBRyker61 · Feb 11, 2015

Crazylegsmurphy said:
I am currently in the process of creating a pattern for each version of the holster. If all goes according to plan, there will be as close to screen accurate as possible pattern for all versions, and their respective differences.

Sweet. Looking forward to it.

Egon · Feb 11, 2015

So I am so split on this. This research is great and it really looks to me like the first two pockets are one piece. But one thing is bugging me about the third. In the photo attached, it looks to me like there is a bit of undyed leather peaking out from the pouch. To me, it looks like the pouch was riveted on and is being pulled down from the weight of the greeblie exposing the undyed leather behind it. This can also be seen on the second attached photo so I am not sure it is totally light. Now it is at least the same holster because of the crease we see present in the pre and post (these photos) pics.

I am still digging through some reference. But am I crazy or does it look like both one continuous piece and single riveted pieces exist at the same time? :wacko

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Uncharted Leather · Feb 11, 2015

I still believe that each pouch on the ANH holster is riveted in place instead of one piece formed over something and then glued onto the belt. I have used this method with rivets recently on a Uncharted 3 bandolier and was very happy with how well it held the pouches in place. Here is a photo of the pouches on the bandolier and also a test pouch for the ANH holster I just made. I agree with you that a lighter weight leather was used to make the pouches. My test pouch was made with 4/5 oz and is a little thick compared to what I see in my reference photos. I will make another test pouch using 3 oz. leather tomorrow so we can compare.

If you look at the photos below you will see lighter colored areas around the edges of the pouches. I believe this is the natural color of the leather behind the pouches. I'm not sure if this area did not get enough dye or if the color was rubbed off from contact with the pouch.

Here are two photos that I believe show that both the riveted and stitched pouches were used in the ESB. What do you guys think?

To answer your question if there is a hole on the button pouch I would say yes. It is very hard to see but if you look at the bottom of this photo you can see it. There are a lot of other photos that you can see something in that area but can not tell for sure if it is a hole or just a dark spot.

Uncharted Leather · Feb 11, 2015

Egon said:
So I am so split on this. This research is great and it really looks to me like the first two pockets are one piece. But one thing is bugging me about the third. In the photo attached, it looks to me like there is a bit of undyed leather peaking out from the pouch. To me, it looks like the pouch was riveted on and is being pulled down from the weight of the greeblie exposing the undyed leather behind it. This can also be seen on the second attached photo so I am not sure it is totally light. Now it is at least the same holster because of the crease we see present in the pre and post (these photos) pics.

I am still digging through some reference. But am I crazy or does it look like both one continuous piece and single riveted pieces exist at the same time? :wacko

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Looks like we were looking at reference photos about the same time!

spoudastis · Feb 11, 2015

I agree with you uncharted, from your third pic it definitely looks like each pouch is an individual piece. The leather for sure wraps under and is not connected between pouches.

Uncharted Leather said:
I still believe that each pouch on the ANH holster is riveted in place instead of one piece formed over something and then glued onto the belt. I have used this method with rivets recently on a Uncharted 3 bandolier and was very happy with how well it held the pouches in place. Here is a photo of the pouches on the bandolier and also a test pouch for the ANH holster I just made. I agree with you that a lighter weight leather was used to make the pouches. My test pouch was made with 4/5 oz and is a little thick compared to what I see in my reference photos. I will make another test pouch using 3 oz. leather tomorrow so we can compare.

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If you look at the photos below you will see lighter colored areas around the edges of the pouches. I believe this is the natural color of the leather behind the pouches. I'm not sure if this area did not get enough dye or if the color was rubbed off from contact with the pouch.

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Here are two photos that I believe show that both the riveted and stitched pouches were used in the ESB. What do you guys think?

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To answer your question if there is a hole on the button pouch I would say yes. It is very hard to see but if you look at the bottom of this photo you can see it. There are a lot of other photos that you can see something in that area but can not tell for sure if it is a hole or just a dark spot.

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ImperialWalker · Feb 12, 2015

Egon said:
So I am so split on this. This research is great and it really looks to me like the first two pockets are one piece. But one thing is bugging me about the third. In the photo attached, it looks to me like there is a bit of undyed leather peaking out from the pouch. To me, it looks like the pouch was riveted on and is being pulled down from the weight of the greeblie exposing the undyed leather behind it. This can also be seen on the second attached photo so I am not sure it is totally light. Now it is at least the same holster because of the crease we see present in the pre and post (these photos) pics.

I am still digging through some reference. But am I crazy or does it look like both one continuous piece and single riveted pieces exist at the same time? :wacko

Uncharted Leather said:
I still believe that each pouch on the ANH holster is riveted in place instead of one piece formed over something and then glued onto the belt. I have used this method with rivets recently on a Uncharted 3 bandolier and was very happy with how well it held the pouches in place. Here is a photo of the pouches on the bandolier and also a test pouch for the ANH holster I just made. I agree with you that a lighter weight leather was used to make the pouches. My test pouch was made with 4/5 oz and is a little thick compared to what I see in my reference photos. I will make another test pouch using 3 oz. leather tomorrow so we can compare.

If you look at the photos below you will see lighter colored areas around the edges of the pouches. I believe this is the natural color of the leather behind the pouches. I'm not sure if this area did not get enough dye or if the color was rubbed off from contact with the pouch.

I am split on this as well, Egon.

The problem I am having is trying to separate my practical mind, from my prop building mind. What I mean is, when looking at photos of movie costumes, and props, I always have to keep in mind that everything must be taken with a grain of salt. For example, it would stand to reason that the scratches and dents on a blaster would be the result of use, but in reality might be the result of a hammer and paint.

I also have to keep in mind that more often then not, props and costumes are not built to be practical pieces you wear, but something that must look awesome, only long enough (through minimal upkeep) to get through a few weeks of shooting. So, while a leatherworker might use high quality glue, a prop/costume maker might use whatever crazy glue that was sitting in a drawer somewhere, and as long as it worked for a few weeks, good enough.

All that said, I just want to offer a few thoughts to what you guys have said.

The question as to whether it was one piece or multiple pieces of leather seems to be hinging on what is perceived to be the natural color of the leather coming through.

What I would ask is, would the creators have put the entire belt together, then dyed it, or would they have dyed each piece then assembled it? Also, could the natural leather be a result of artificial weathering to give definition, or perhaps light hitting the curve?

Let me back up for a moment...

If we go back to my post above, we can see what we can assume is the same belt, under different lighting conditions. (A), (B) and the photos you've posted above were taken under studio lights, as costume test, or publicity photos. In those images we see the result of high powered lights bouncing off the different parts of the leather. Look along the top of the belt, or the curve on the "Y" shaped piece.

Now, look at (C) and (D). We still see light bounce, but because it is in a larger, more "uncontrolled" studio set, the once defined and seeming natural leather color is still there, but now, to me anyway, it appears as though there are subtle curves in the leather between the pouches.

Especially in (D) between the two larger pouches, I am not seeing a line or any indication of a fold. After the second large pouch, I am almost totally convinced that the leather curves and then is continuous.

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All that said, the question is whether we can actually solve this based on the photos we have available? These ever-changing, grainy, inconsistently lit photos may simply not be adequate, to make a definitive decision.

So, what does that mean for the pattern?

What I am thinking is that I am going to add in two versions. One, using a single piece, and one using separate pouches. I will make a note of the differences of opinion, and allow everyone to decide for themselves what is the more accurate method. When, and if more information becomes available, I will update the pattern with the new information.

Other than that, I'm not entirely sure how to solve this mystery.

DS Operative · Feb 26, 2015

Any progress on solving the mystery?

ImperialWalker · Feb 26, 2015

DS Operative said:
Any progress on solving the mystery?

I was able to track down a website that apparently sells high quality prints of some of the costume test/promo photos, but they want $20+ per print...which I don't really need, nor want.

So at this moment I am kind of stuck providing both options.

The progress on this has mostly been on the back end. I have been spending a lot of time writing up the information and resources so I can put this all together into a coherent pattern. The patterns, other than the holster are completely done and ready to go. I am just struggling a bit designing a pattern around a virtual blaster, and may need to recruit someone who can print a paper version and test that it fits.

I hope to have some major updates shortly.

ImperialWalker · Mar 8, 2015

Smugglers Holster
v 1.0

Updates

So, it has been a few weeks and many of you may be wondering where things are at. Well, I thought I would take a few moments to bring you up to speed, let you know the plans, and some of the issues I've run into.

The Power of Costume

My parents decided to sell their winter home in Mesa, so I have been tasked to drive down from Canada and pick up a few things they would like to keep. The annoying part is that I will be away from my computer for a few weeks. The great part is that I will be heading through Seattle, which is hosting a Star Wars costume exhibit.

Looking through some photos taken, it appears there is a Han Solo costume on display, that should provide me with great reference photos for the pouches, behind the buckle, and the disk.

This is a great, and well timed opportunity.

Materials & Tests

I have been attempting do do some tests to make sure that the patterns I've been creating, actually work on real materials. The information and research I've been gathering has taken a lot of time, and I wanted to make sure everything was accurate before I release it to you guys.

Unfortunately, the leather supply place that has been here since 1954 or something, upped and moved in the last few months. I only found out when I walked up to the store and saw it abandoned with nothing more than a sign saying, "We've moved...email me." It turns out that they moved up island, and are no longer carrying leather supplies.

Fortunately, Phoenix has two Tandy leather stores, and so I will be picking up a LOT of it when I'm down there for the many projects I've been thinking of making. This will also allow me to test the patterns further.

Pattern Status

One of the most frustrating parts of this project has been the slow stream of information I find.

For example, I have had the "hooks" done for weeks. As I started gathering information about various metals and their properties, I realized that my patterns were wrong. Multiple metal and jewelry working forums confirmed that my patterns, once bent would not result in what I was attempting to create. This meant learning bend tolerances, doing math, and even getting a professional engineer to recreate the patterns in software called Solidworks, to determine where my patterns were wrong.

I have also had to backtrack and change a lot of the patterns after realizing that each version of the holsters actually have a lot of subtle differences that I never noticed the first time round. The changes were also different enough that I couldn't simply pawn off some shoddy pattern and say, "close enough".

Not that I would do that anyway. I can't very well claim to have created the most accurate pattern and then say, "good enough."

Another issue has been that creating accurate patterns based off of 2D, digital versions can be very difficult. As such, I have been ordering various parts, and have the following coming in the mail:

- Denix Mauser
- 2 Packages of Vintage C02 cartridges
- Revel V8 motor model

I'm hoping that these help me to better determine if my pattern is accurate as the multiple physical parts will give me a better source for measuring all the details.

So, that is why the updates have appeared to have stopped. Much of the work I've been doing isn't really worth posting, or not information that I can easily post at this point.

Questions & Issues

Now that you guys are up to speed. The following are the current questions that I must solve.

-- Button Pouch Size --

I realized the other day that the button pouch does not appear to be the same width or depth as the other pouches. This was my fault as I assumed they were, which I really need to make a better effort to avoid.

Ideally, what would be of huge help is if you have time, take a look at all three versions and send me a PM with your results for what you feel the width and depth are.

The reason I ask that you send me a PM is that I would like to see what everyone comes to without being persuaded by others in this post. I will post everyones results after, but I would like to see how close everyone comes to what I have determined If we all independently come up with similar measurements, then we can assume we're probably pretty close.

-- Blaster Length --

As I mentioned I recently ordered a Denix Mauser. I do know that they are slightly smaller than the actual pistol, but because this version is probably the what most of us will likely be able to afford/obtain, I am basing my pattern on that. Yes, I know it isn't 100% screen accurate, but unless someone is willing to lend me a genuine Mauser while I'm in the USA so I can measure every square inch, it just isn't practical to use that as the model.

That said, I am having a lot of trouble determining the different barrel lengths for the different versions of the blaster. The model I am using in my pattern is supposed to be a 1:1 version of the ESB blaster. The problem is that I don't have any really good measurements for the others.

So, if you have one, or know of a place where I can get some really in depth information, it would be a huge help.

-- Greeblies ---

I am in real need of the most up to date, and accurate information regarding the Greeblies for the different versions of the holster. I know of the C02 and the Revel parts, but the rest I'm having a lot of trouble finding good information about, or at least high quality images.

Whats Next?

As I mentioned I will be gone for the next few weeks. I will be working on the pattern during that time, but there won't be any updates.

When I get back, I will have the blaster, Greeblies, leather, and metals in hand which will help me move forward, and provide you guys with some nice visuals to check out.

I will also be done the written part of the pattern, which will leave me with only some final pattern pieces, a few illustrations, and some bits and pieces left.

Also....

I wanted to mention that if by chance the Ep. 7 holster is different/updated I will be releasing an update to this pattern ASAP so you guys can get ready for the conventions and such.

See you in a few weeks.

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