Laspector
Master Member
Maybe (I'm just saying maybe, not saying this is fact) some of us are falling into the nostalgia trap, myself included. Most people will usually go with the version of something that they grew up with as the best--Star Wars OT over prequels, original Star Trek over TNG, 89 Batman over Nolan, Raimi over Webb, etc. Whatever the case.
As for Spider-man, I grew up with the original Lee, Ditko, Romita, Gil Kane, Romita jr, Ross Andru versions. So for me those stories are the ones that count. I'm one of those that thinks MacFarlane was the worst thing that ever happened to Spider-man. I despise super huge eyes on the mask. I loathe symbiotes and Venom and all that stuff. I liked it better when he was a wanted fugitive, not a public hero. He was a wanted man for years for the death of Norman Osbourne. The cops hated him and the general public thought J.J. Jameson was right about him. To me Mary Jane is a hipster swinger chick who never wanted to do anything but party and was actually Harry's girl. But that's just me. I'm not saying all the other stuff is in fact bad, I'm just saying I fall into the nostalgia trap, too. I want the Spider-man I grew up with and adored. Most of us are the same. We all want the Spider-man we grew up with.
If you are younger and grew up with MacFarlane eyes and Raimi Spider-man, or Ultimate, or Venom, Peter and Mary Jane, etc--that's probably what you are going to like. And there is nothing wrong with that. I stopped reading the comic in about 1985, so for me anything after that is not my Spider-man, but that doesn't mean it should be that way for everyone else.
I was 37 when the Raimi film came out. And like everyone else, I was so hungry for a Spider-man movie that I was a huge fan of it, but even then there were lots of things about it I would have rather had different. Organic web shooters? Did not like that. Great suit, but the eyes were terrible--Spider-man does not have triangles for eyes. Mary Jane over Gwen? Did not like that. Power ranger Goblin--no, just no. But I had been desperately wanting a Spider-man movie for over 30 years so I was happy with whatever I could get.
So when it was rebooted, I was more than willing to give it a chance. But I sure hated that first outfit when I saw it! But it grew on me. I think Garfield and Webb really nailed the Spider-man attitude, humor and quips that I thought was sorely missing in the Raimi films. When he catches that first carjacker, I watched that scene and said to myself "Now, that is the Spider-man attitude I've been waiting all my life to see." And the new suit in ASM2, that is an almost perfect suit. Still not happy with the eyes--still a little too MacFarlane-ish, would rather have Romita jr eyes, but I can deal with it. Still waiting on a good Green Goblin, maybe next time.
But these are just my opinions, I'm not saying they are for everyone. We are all entitled to our own. But for me, I'll take Garfield over Toby.
As for Spider-man, I grew up with the original Lee, Ditko, Romita, Gil Kane, Romita jr, Ross Andru versions. So for me those stories are the ones that count. I'm one of those that thinks MacFarlane was the worst thing that ever happened to Spider-man. I despise super huge eyes on the mask. I loathe symbiotes and Venom and all that stuff. I liked it better when he was a wanted fugitive, not a public hero. He was a wanted man for years for the death of Norman Osbourne. The cops hated him and the general public thought J.J. Jameson was right about him. To me Mary Jane is a hipster swinger chick who never wanted to do anything but party and was actually Harry's girl. But that's just me. I'm not saying all the other stuff is in fact bad, I'm just saying I fall into the nostalgia trap, too. I want the Spider-man I grew up with and adored. Most of us are the same. We all want the Spider-man we grew up with.
If you are younger and grew up with MacFarlane eyes and Raimi Spider-man, or Ultimate, or Venom, Peter and Mary Jane, etc--that's probably what you are going to like. And there is nothing wrong with that. I stopped reading the comic in about 1985, so for me anything after that is not my Spider-man, but that doesn't mean it should be that way for everyone else.
I was 37 when the Raimi film came out. And like everyone else, I was so hungry for a Spider-man movie that I was a huge fan of it, but even then there were lots of things about it I would have rather had different. Organic web shooters? Did not like that. Great suit, but the eyes were terrible--Spider-man does not have triangles for eyes. Mary Jane over Gwen? Did not like that. Power ranger Goblin--no, just no. But I had been desperately wanting a Spider-man movie for over 30 years so I was happy with whatever I could get.
So when it was rebooted, I was more than willing to give it a chance. But I sure hated that first outfit when I saw it! But it grew on me. I think Garfield and Webb really nailed the Spider-man attitude, humor and quips that I thought was sorely missing in the Raimi films. When he catches that first carjacker, I watched that scene and said to myself "Now, that is the Spider-man attitude I've been waiting all my life to see." And the new suit in ASM2, that is an almost perfect suit. Still not happy with the eyes--still a little too MacFarlane-ish, would rather have Romita jr eyes, but I can deal with it. Still waiting on a good Green Goblin, maybe next time.
But these are just my opinions, I'm not saying they are for everyone. We are all entitled to our own. But for me, I'll take Garfield over Toby.
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