Blueing a MGC C96?

OdiWan72

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• Jul 27, 2014

• #1

I am currently reworking two MGC C96's for upcoming blaster projects and ran into problems when trying to reblue them...

so far I used birchwoods perma-blue paste (for steel) but only got slight brownish results, which are too light as well even after several applications.
also had some alu-black at hand which gave me much better/ darker results at first, but the finish is not durable and wears off during the first washes already

With the MGCs being neither made from aluminum, nor steel but an alloy...what do you guys use to give these a nice and dark new finish?

Thanks in advance, Markus

 

scottjua

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• Jul 28, 2014

• #2

I've done multiple multiple multiple multiple super blue passes. Apply buff...repeat over and over and over and over. Works great after a lot of work.

I may may try the al black that way too

 

OdiWan72

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• Jul 28, 2014

• #3

I just ordered some super blue, which gives a much deeper/ black finish...will give it a try

too impatient to do stuff multiple multiple multiple multiple times :lol
thanks anyway Scott

Markus

 

Last edited: Jul 28, 2014

scottjua

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• Jul 28, 2014

• #4

Yeah the mgc metal is just different. So weird. Comes out for steel but takes more work.

i wonder how they were originally finished. It must have been a fast easy process.

 

OdiWan72

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• Jul 28, 2014

• #5

you bet it was...will let you know how the super blue works

Markus

 

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grenater

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• Jul 28, 2014

• #6

Was it possibly heated up to a high temperature to change color? Seems fast dosent require alota work just spitting out ideas.

 

Vanitas

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• Aug 18, 2014

• #7

I have two MGCs myself, though only one has been stripped as of yet. I haven't tried bluing it yet, though I imagine that the process is somewhat similar to the bluing of a Denix, as both are made of cheap Zamak, though I think that the MGC has a little better quality metal in it. In maxspr1's Luke ESB conversion build here: http://www.therpf.com/f79/mr-luke-e...instructions-185769/?highlight=luke+esb+dl-44

He reblued his Zamak Master Replicas body with a product called Blue Wonder Gun Blue, which he found online, and the finish of the zinc parts seemed to be a very even consistent metallic dark grey tone, which he said was similar to a real Mauser's tone. Whether or not this would work on an MGC I don't know, but if anybody else out there has any experience with this particular bluing product, then that would be extremely helpful.

 

Dann

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• Aug 18, 2014

• #8

I used super blue on both of mine, and had different results with each one.

One came out brownish, the other blue. Definitely repeated the process over and over and over. Spent more time on the one that came out looking good and blue.

Don't let the chemicals sit on the metal for more than 60 seconds at a time before neutralizing with water.

Make sure everything is cleaned and degreased THOROUGHLY. (Before beginning the bluing process)

 

Last edited: Aug 18, 2014

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lcpltac

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• Aug 18, 2014

• #9

Have you thought about a spray on finish like Duracoat or Ceracoat? Duracoat do a Gun Blue colour and the spray on finish will help protect the metal of the MGC. about $20 a pop for enough to do a couple of pistol sized items.

http://www.duracoat-firearm-finishes.com/

 

ConvergencePro

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• Aug 20, 2014

• #10

Sadly, Cold blueing is pretty much never permanent, and will fade/brown over time even if it's a part that gets rarely handled. Especially when it comes to the Birchwood stuff. (which is really only meant to temporally hide imperfections when selling/trading firearms)

That said, the best cold blue that I have used (and I've tried quite a few) is called Blue Wonder. It requires you to heat the metal with a torch in order to get the chemical process to work, but it does a very good job and last much much longer than any other product I've used. Sadly, it seems to be one of those products you can really only buy online from their website, as I've never been able to find in any of my gun shop visits, and very rarely at gun shows.