Probe Droid
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I believe this has been in and out of development for years. Seems no one can commit. Probably just as well since it would be another CGI fest.
Horror movies: discuss away
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cayman shen
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Although it had its problems, I'm a HUGE sucker for anything arctic, and it had a great premise and one of the best mass killing shots ever. So even if the comic is much better, I'm gonna give a nod to 30 Days of Night. Seriously, that overhead shot of the town being decimated, and the acting of the vampires' human familiar make it worth a watch imo.
Plus I'm also a sucker for movies where people are trapped. It was basically Die Hard with vampires :lol
Plus I'm also a sucker for movies where people are trapped. It was basically Die Hard with vampires :lol
I think The Creature From the Black Lagoon has the awful potential to become a cheap beast monster franchise like the giant snake movies :sick you know they'd have to make one with about a dozen of the creatures attacking something and the cut out dumb broad who gets rescued by the cut out hunk.
Spare me.
Spare me.
bigtrev503
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What will it take to revive the horror genre?
IIRC, Phantasm 2 only happened because of the first movie's unexpected popularity in the newly emerging home video market. Universal thew a bunch of cash at Coscarelli but interfered pretty heavily in production. When the sequel flopped, the series carried on as indies.
While the first is undoubtedly the best, I enjoy all the Phantasm movies. Even the much maligned P4, which was hamstrung by a miniscule budget, has some cool sequences. The 'unreliable' conclusions became an ongoing feature of the movies, but the original retcon was driven by the studio wanting a bigger budget rerun of the original.
Not to mention that practically every horror franchise has had a mid-numbing retcon at some point...
While the first is undoubtedly the best, I enjoy all the Phantasm movies. Even the much maligned P4, which was hamstrung by a miniscule budget, has some cool sequences. The 'unreliable' conclusions became an ongoing feature of the movies, but the original retcon was driven by the studio wanting a bigger budget rerun of the original.
Not to mention that practically every horror franchise has had a mid-numbing retcon at some point...
Getting away from the mind-numbingly formulaic tripe and coming up with something new and different without resorting to a gore-fest.
cayman shen
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I understand why some object to "torture porn." And I would like some heart and brains behind my horror--see The Descent. However I find body horror to be very effective. The violation of it, the visceral reaction to the gore, I find that fascinating in a way. It reinforces my fundamental nihilism while creating empathy at the same time somehow. I'm an unabashad gorehound. Plus I love the effects!
Exactly. I believe that truly scary scenes are made not from what is seen, but from what is NOT seen. A good example of this is in... brace yourself... The Blair Witch Project. Had the rest of the movie not been a total suckfest, the movie could have been truly terrifying.
Another great horror film is Darkness Falls. It's a grossly underrated movie with a very effective monster.
Oh, I have no problem with body horror. I love it for the same reasons as you. Hellraiser is a great example of it. However, what I am referring to is more of a director using gore to get scares across instead of letting the scene be scary through storytelling.
bigtrev503
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Really? I've heard nothing but bad things about that movie. I should still check it out. Isn't the monster technically the tooth fairy?
Not technically the Tooth Fairy... It IS the Tooth Fairy. Or more of a Grimm's fairy tale version thereof.
Laspector
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Yeah, I will admit that when I do actually want to watch a Phantasm sequel (which isn't often, mind you) it is always OblIVion that I turn to. The using of the previously unseen/unused footage from the original movie is fun to watch, and the way it is worked into the story is kind of cool. Plus, the ending of IV really wraps things up nice and neatly.
bigtrev503
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Anyone know if any of the Phantasm movies are on Netflix? Also, is there anything remotely exciting on the horizon for this genre?
bigtrev503
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I just saw two documentaries on Netflix. One of them was about the history of horror movies in 'merica. The other was about a specific FX studio called KNB. They did Day of The Dead, Evil Dead 2 and a few others and are currently responsible for the makeup on TWD. The second one is about the evolution of effects companies through the 70's and 80's and the decline in the 90's due to the use of CG.
The first one is called Horror: red white and blue (i think)
and the second one was something like monster factory
Anyone seen these or know whatthey're called? I was glued to the screen!
The first one is called Horror: red white and blue (i think)
and the second one was something like monster factory
Anyone seen these or know whatthey're called? I was glued to the screen!
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cayman shen
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Yup, both great. There's another one about old school local tv midnight movie hosts that was also outstanding. Can't recall the name tho :/
Probe Droid
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It's called American Scary and it's excellent.
bigtrev503
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Is that on Netflix? I'll watch it tonight!
They made a mention of Italian horror in one of those documentaries I mentioned.
crabra comander
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I just finished watching Across the River. It is a Italian horror film.
I thought it was very well done and it didn't deviate too far from the standard ghost fare while still managing to be totally unique. There were some especially good scenes in it and some good story building as well as all practical effects from what I could see.
Additionally, one of the few horror movies I've seen where the camera actually focuses on the ghosts on their own, as if preparing you for their next big scare or just adding tension by showing how creepy they were!
Well, now I'll be starting my regular horror movie marathons for Halloween...
I thought it was very well done and it didn't deviate too far from the standard ghost fare while still managing to be totally unique. There were some especially good scenes in it and some good story building as well as all practical effects from what I could see.
Additionally, one of the few horror movies I've seen where the camera actually focuses on the ghosts on their own, as if preparing you for their next big scare or just adding tension by showing how creepy they were!
Well, now I'll be starting my regular horror movie marathons for Halloween...
VilleLeskinen
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It's true that practical effects are being used less and less. Even with films like The Thing remake where they made practicals, the studio wanted to use digital stuff. Think what Tetsuo would look like if it was made in CGI?! :lol
Anyway I wanna bring some eurohorror to the mix:
Blood on Satan's Claws (1971) - There are so many great occult and satanic movies from the 70's that it's hard to choose. So it's this or Alucarda (1977)
The Beyond (1981) - Fulci's best. Nasty, gory and hounting.
Suspiria (1977) - THE movie from Argento. Has amazing cinematography and one of the best soundtracks by Goblin.
The Kingdom (1994) - Haven't seen the american version but I have my doubts. Lars Von Trier's weird and scary tv series.
Anyway I wanna bring some eurohorror to the mix:
Blood on Satan's Claws (1971) - There are so many great occult and satanic movies from the 70's that it's hard to choose. So it's this or Alucarda (1977)
The Beyond (1981) - Fulci's best. Nasty, gory and hounting.
Suspiria (1977) - THE movie from Argento. Has amazing cinematography and one of the best soundtracks by Goblin.
The Kingdom (1994) - Haven't seen the american version but I have my doubts. Lars Von Trier's weird and scary tv series.
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