Help with FOX/PARAMOUNT props - Titanic - COA help

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pablo94

New Member

• Sep 18, 2013

• #1

Could anyone help me with the types of COA's from Fox & Paramount. I've just bought a lifejacket used in the 1997 film Titanic directed by James Cameron but I suspect it's fake as the lifejacket is completely clean with no marks, discolouring, rips, tears or anything which seems suspicious to me. But also, the certificate of authenticity looks like something he may have just made.
Here is the COA:

 

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The Prop Stop

Sr Member

• Sep 18, 2013

• #2

no coa mate....doesnt show up

 

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pablo94

New Member

• Sep 18, 2013

• #3

Thanks, hopefully this works...

 

Contec

Master Member

• Sep 18, 2013

• #4

I would say fake, No signature, no "one of 20" made... What prop company is it from, Paramount fox movie prop limited?

The security paper can be bought on ebay.

Hope you did not pay much for it.

 

Elliot2000

New Member

• Sep 18, 2013

• #5

Fox has only used two different types of COA for Titanic items. A small detail that all the originals have that the replicas often forget to add is if you look inside of the the jacket there should be a penciled yellow grid underneath the stitching that the costume department did on each one so they would know where to sew the different foam panels at. The jacket should also be a cream color or greyish white since the canvas used on them tend to discolor from mold/mildew. If you have a photo of the jacket that would help.

 

trenchcoatpanda

Well-Known Member

• Sep 18, 2013

• #6

Your best hope is to watch a blu ray copy of the movie and see if you can spot it. Match up the details. I'm assuming there's a lot of life jackets, but just take screen shot if on a computer and start from there.

 

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pablo94

New Member

• Sep 19, 2013

• #7

Elliot2000 said:

Fox has only used two different types of COA for Titanic items. A small detail that all the originals have that the replicas often forget to add is if you look inside of the the jacket there should be a penciled yellow grid underneath the stitching that the costume department did on each one so they would know where to sew the different foam panels at. The jacket should also be a cream color or greyish white since the canvas used on them tend to discolor from mold/mildew. If you have a photo of the jacket that would help.

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Ahh, that's really helpful, thank you! I will have a look now!

 

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rockydog101

New Member

• Sep 19, 2013

• #8

Super fake COA. "For the movie listed: TITANIC LIFE VEST" What movie is Titanic Life Vest? I hope you didn't pay much and can get a refund.

 

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pablo94

New Member

• Sep 19, 2013

• #9

There is some pencil under the stitching but it's not yellow, it's just standard pencil. Have some close ups here, what does everyone think? Also noticed that the top two padded bits have a significantly larger gap than the other two...

Don't why the Diana Vickers picture has come up, and can't seem to remove it - apologies haha

 

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Avianman

New Member

• Sep 20, 2013

• #10

If it is any consolation, I have a COA from a Showtime auction (Dexter) and the COA looks like they made it last minute. No signatures, numbers or identification of the specific item. I bought it from the official Showtime Dexter auction, so I know it's legit, but I bet some people on the board would think it is fake at first glance.

 

Elliot2000

New Member

• Sep 21, 2013

• #11

In my opinion based off of all the jackets to have come up for sale that I have seen it doesn't look right. If you compare it to those on screen and those listed on propstore and screenused a few features look wrong. Screenused has 7 in the archive which you can compared it to. The shoulder bands look way too wide and the neck hole doesn't look wide enough. The straps used to tie the life jacket to the body are the wrong material and I have never seen a jacket that has a line stitched at the bottom, it is normally rounded. The fabric for its age is also too clean, it doesn't appear to have any age, damage or discoloration to it. It also has way too much space between the pads and the edge of the jacket. If you can I would personally try to get a refund

 

NCC1968

Well-Known Member

• Sep 21, 2013

• #12

If it was mailed to you US Mail and fake then that is a mail fraud felony..........I have reminded sellers of that and it has helped at times as far as refunds go.