Sandbagger's Iron-Man builds - Now in STEEL
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sandbagger
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Bad day today. Last of my four days rostered off shift and I've had stuff-all time in the shed.
Today, total brain fart. I think I'm burnt out. I've been standing in my shed at the work bench for two hours trying to brainstorm a series of problems/challenges and have walked away without a single solution.
There's been more than once I've felt like throwing my hands up in the air and giving up on this whole thing. A great project can be so let down by one or two parts. Striving for perfection in looks and functionality is doing my head in.
Just a bleat for a change. Don't try these things at home kids... they're not easy.
Today, total brain fart. I think I'm burnt out. I've been standing in my shed at the work bench for two hours trying to brainstorm a series of problems/challenges and have walked away without a single solution.
There's been more than once I've felt like throwing my hands up in the air and giving up on this whole thing. A great project can be so let down by one or two parts. Striving for perfection in looks and functionality is doing my head in.
Just a bleat for a change. Don't try these things at home kids... they're not easy.
George
Master Member
SB,if there is anyone capable of finishing this astonishing project,it has to be you.Besides,you already came this far.
Perhaps what you need is a break (a car needs to stop for fuel at some point).Don't fear it to be permanent; how could that be? You're creative.You can't just undo something that is part of you,so it has to resurface at some point.
If you don't know what to do anymore,focus on something or someone else for a bit,like your family or your passion for space.What better opportunity to find inspiration (again)?
Besides,we're not going anywhere
Perhaps what you need is a break (a car needs to stop for fuel at some point).Don't fear it to be permanent; how could that be? You're creative.You can't just undo something that is part of you,so it has to resurface at some point.
If you don't know what to do anymore,focus on something or someone else for a bit,like your family or your passion for space.What better opportunity to find inspiration (again)?
Besides,we're not going anywhere
sandbagger
Master Member
Thanks man. I thought I'd crack on with some other bits so at least I feel like I'm getting somewhere.
Faceplate Camera. A little panel-beating between the eyes, a backfill and primed the edge of the camera with a toothpick under a magnifying glass. Once the paint goes on the hole will be a snug fit for the camera. With a gold paint job and some gold film over the camera lens it should be pretty good.
Shoulder bell. First layer of bog and primer filler. Getting pretty good at this panel beating gig.
Not happy with my aluminium gauntlets. They are just too bulky and hard to get on and off. More prototyping in cardboard to improve finger dexterity. I'm scratch-building these because all the pep files that look great need too much adjusting anyway to fit my very broad, flat hands. Once I'm happy I'll make them out of steel sheet as per the rest of the suit. Instead of whipper-snipper cord on the outside I'll be using bike cable on the inside.
Faceplate Camera. A little panel-beating between the eyes, a backfill and primed the edge of the camera with a toothpick under a magnifying glass. Once the paint goes on the hole will be a snug fit for the camera. With a gold paint job and some gold film over the camera lens it should be pretty good.
Shoulder bell. First layer of bog and primer filler. Getting pretty good at this panel beating gig.
Not happy with my aluminium gauntlets. They are just too bulky and hard to get on and off. More prototyping in cardboard to improve finger dexterity. I'm scratch-building these because all the pep files that look great need too much adjusting anyway to fit my very broad, flat hands. Once I'm happy I'll make them out of steel sheet as per the rest of the suit. Instead of whipper-snipper cord on the outside I'll be using bike cable on the inside.
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sandbagger
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Thanks mate.
Update:
Re-designing fingers in steel this time.
For the curved underside of the fingers, rather than try to beat the steel into a curve over a round bar, I found a thick walled pipe to make a die to squish the plate into shape with the round bar.
Pressing the three together in the vice.
Presto!
Using the curved bit just made and adding some flats and angles, I welded up a finger as one piece.
Finger joints marked for cutting.
Knuckle pivot welded in.
Update:
Re-designing fingers in steel this time.
For the curved underside of the fingers, rather than try to beat the steel into a curve over a round bar, I found a thick walled pipe to make a die to squish the plate into shape with the round bar.
Pressing the three together in the vice.
Presto!
Using the curved bit just made and adding some flats and angles, I welded up a finger as one piece.
Finger joints marked for cutting.
Knuckle pivot welded in.
sandbagger
Master Member
I'll just leave these here.
JaxAndTheMoon
Sr Member
Looks like a lot of your work is leaving you a bit... heavy handed? :angel
sandbagger
Master Member
Now for the tricky thumb so I can make a fist......
sandbagger
Master Member
Hands down this has got to be the most difficult part of the suit. (See what I did there?
I really want to be able to grab things, shake hands etc and all the gauntlets I have seen and tried have severe range of motion limitations.
So, it was decision time again to perhaps for-go a little movie accuracy for function.
Steel is so versatile in that it can be beaten into curves and shapes that can ball-pivot inside other plates of armour. With this in mind I have designed a gauntlet that can fold along the crease inside the palm, plus let the heel of the thumb roll in to oppose the fingers.
Cardboard and hot glue does the trick. Looks a little rough, but this is the part where you nut out all the challenges and come up with solutions. It's going very well.
I really want to be able to grab things, shake hands etc and all the gauntlets I have seen and tried have severe range of motion limitations.
So, it was decision time again to perhaps for-go a little movie accuracy for function.
Steel is so versatile in that it can be beaten into curves and shapes that can ball-pivot inside other plates of armour. With this in mind I have designed a gauntlet that can fold along the crease inside the palm, plus let the heel of the thumb roll in to oppose the fingers.
Cardboard and hot glue does the trick. Looks a little rough, but this is the part where you nut out all the challenges and come up with solutions. It's going very well.
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Judge Spartan
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If this works out in metal ( and I have no doubt that it won't ) I think these will be better looking than the movie versions! IMHO! thumbsup
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Murdoch
Sr Member
Hey SB to give you an idea. My build is based on full mobility and I found that if you check Ironman 2 the scene with the mk5 suitcase, where Tony gets suited up and the camera focuses on the left hand. The hand is open and then closes to a fist. Check out the palms movement. The lower palm is 4 separate pieces. Full range of motion in the lower palm. Now get to work and close the deal buddy...GMHands down this has got to be the most difficult part of the suit. (See what I did there?
I really want to be able to grab things, shake hands etc and all the gauntlets I have seen and tried have severe range of motion limitations.
So, it was decision time again to perhaps for-go a little movie accuracy for function.
Steel is so versatile in that it can be beaten into curves and shapes that can ball-pivot inside other plates of armour. With this in mind I have designed a gauntlet that can fold along the crease inside the palm, plus let the heel of the thumb roll in to oppose the fingers.
Cardboard and hot glue does the trick. Looks a little rough, but this is the part where you nut out all the challenges and come up with solutions. It's going very well.
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http://youtu.be/hsbiJM_TpTc
sandbagger
Master Member
Murdoch
Sr Member
What is yeah no? LolJust watched the slow-mo on it and freeze-frames.
yeah.... no.
Baz.
sandbagger
Master Member
Next you'll be asking me if I'm going to make it fly and make a J.A.R.V.I.S machine to dress me....
sandbagger
Master Member
LOL! Not at all mate.
I need to use more emoticons. My tongue-in-cheek needs work. I think your input is most excellent dude.I too, see some ways to do it, but there's always a trade-off between skills, money, materials readily available and time. I think the portrayal in the movie is a long way from even multi-million dollar DARPA and the like from achieving it, let alone a hack like me with a grinder, hammer, welder and pair of tin-snips.
SB
FoamMaster
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So you may consider a J.A.R.V.I.S.? [emoji12]LOL! Not at all mate.
I too, see some ways to do it, but there's always a trade-off between skills, money, materials readily available and time. I think the portrayal in the movie is a long way from even multi-million dollar DARPA and the like from achieving it, let alone a hack like me with a grinder, hammer, welder and pair of tin-snips.
SB
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sandbagger
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House full of sick kids..... staying home today to help out the mrs.
What to do while stuck in the house? Learn how to become a tailor of course! Found some shiny metallic red stretch cloth to simulate the gauntlet under-armour. Instructables, youtube, you rock.
I cant take all the credit. I did all the trace and pin, wifey operated the sewing machine. Team effort!
Amazing what you can do in less than an hour.
The cut is comfortable and stretchy. Much like a second skin. It's very thin and strong and doesn't take up too much room under the armour. I was worried about using material that added too much bulk and restricting movement. Not a problem with this stuff. Only cost me $12 for the linear metre off the roll.
What to do while stuck in the house? Learn how to become a tailor of course! Found some shiny metallic red stretch cloth to simulate the gauntlet under-armour. Instructables, youtube, you rock.
I cant take all the credit. I did all the trace and pin, wifey operated the sewing machine. Team effort!
Amazing what you can do in less than an hour.
The cut is comfortable and stretchy. Much like a second skin. It's very thin and strong and doesn't take up too much room under the armour. I was worried about using material that added too much bulk and restricting movement. Not a problem with this stuff. Only cost me $12 for the linear metre off the roll.
