Happy 20th Anniverssary Star Trek Deep Space Nine

NakedMoleRat

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Twenty years ago today (And on a Thursday) I sat down at 10:00pm Local Chanel 5 (Las Vegas) and watched Ben Sisko find the Wormhole.

I know that DS9 is the "Jan Brady" of Star Treks to many people, but to me, it was my second favorite Trek after TOS. The charaters were more believeable than the "Were all happy" on board the Enterprise. They developed as people over the course of the 7 years. O'Brien went from hating Bashir to being his best friend. Kira went from being a vengeful despot to becoming a champion and defender.

The stories that were spun were just tremendous. The Dominion being referenced in an episode, to becoming the main villians a couple years later..etc.

Supporting cast such as Nog and Garak becoming main players in their own right.

And let's face it, if Cardassians boarded your station and you were in a hand to hand combat along side your captain, you would rather be fighting with Sisko than Picard!

Oh, and our very own JetBeetle had a cameo as an engineer in an episode!

It's the one set of DVD's that I watch over and over again!
 
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well said NMR

Deep Space Nine had may great episodes.
I dare anyone here to watch "Duet" (season 1 ep 18) and not see it as one of the best episodes of any of the Star Trek series.

We also got to watch the rise of General Martok, the fall of Gowron. The Cardasians as villians.

It really was the last of the great Star Trek series.

Voyager was ST Lite by comparison
 
The show that dared stray from Gene's perfect vision of a perfect humanity in Star Trek.

Michael Piller: Roddenberry was adamant that Twenty-Fourth Century man would evolve past the petty emotional turmoil that gets in the way of our happiness today. Well, as any writer will tell you, ‘emotional turmoil’, petty and otherwise, is at the core of any good drama. It creates conflict between characters. But Gene didn’t want conflict between our characters. “All the problems of mankind have been solved,” he said. “Earth is a paradise.”

And if you look into what occurred over at The Next Generation when Gene had total control, all of the writers and even some of the show's producers who were there in the first season were all gone by Season 3. What poetic irony that Deep Space Nine would factor a similar story into the franchise with the Maquis, a group of of Federation members who were fed up with the Federation handing their homes over to the Cardassians and decided to rebel. When Starfleet tells Sisko to deal with the problem, Sisko does something that even Picard never considered. See things from the Maquis' point of view.

Sisko: The trouble is EARTH. On Earth, there is no poverty, no crime, no war. You look out the window of Starfleet Headquarters and you see Paradise — well, it’s easy to be a *saint* in Paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise. Out there in the Demilitarized Zone, all the problems haven't been solved yet. Out there, there are no saints — just people. Angry, scared, determined people who are going to do whatever it takes to survive, whether it meets with Federation approval or not!"

And probably the biggest strike against Gene Roddenberry's Utopian views....

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And to date, Deep Space Nine is the one of the few Star Trek shows that doesn't have a half-human alien crew member, and probably the most important one, it's the only one where the female officers wear the same type of uniforms as their male counterparts. It gave Star Trek genuine same-sex relationships, it dedicated entire stories to the secondary alien characters, and broke away from the episodic nature by having events in one episode continue to be relevant afterwards.
 
MooCriket said:
Jeyl, Trills could be deemed half human, right? I mean it's a helpless worm inside of a host body. Half alien, half human.
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No. A Trill is a humanoid, not human. You'd think that if the Trills were pure human that they wouldn't have those spots.
 
Yes, but who would not want to play connet the dots on Ezri Dax? :love

Oh, and one more thing. It wasn't until Worf joined DS9 that he was finally able to kick some butt and not have it handed to him by every alien aboard the Enterprise!
 
If "DS9" was the Jan Brady, then "Voyager" was the retarded cousin Oliver.

DS9 was EPIC in the true meaning! It actually had a story arc, unlike everything else ST. It developed characters, even if it made the mistake of bring Worf in which has always been the worst character of all ST. He's the character in TNG that was created to be the tough guy, BUT GOT HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM ALL THE FREAKING TIME. I'd take a DS9 movie any day over any of the other series. Bring back the Prophets!!!
 
Jeyl said:
And to date, Deep Space Nine is the one of the few Star Trek shows that doesn't have a half-human alien crew member, and probably the most important one, it's the only one where the female officers wear the same type of uniforms as their male counterparts.
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It was also the first, and probably only, to not have a Spock analogue; the closest to that was Odo but he was not the cold, emotionless, logic driven character that was Data, Tuvok, and T'Pol, no was he particularly interested in what it meant to be human.
 
I have no problem with Gene Roddenberry's vision of a utopian society! I loved the idea that the human race could evolve to that level in the future.
Star Trek and The New Generation IMHO had some great examples of great Sci-Fi television. I found Voyager to be good also but IMO they did not have a great deal of excellent episodes, most I found to be mediocre at best. I am sorry to say I did not like Enterprise at all!
DS9 has become my fav in the Star Trek universe mainly because it seemed the most believable and realistic!
I liked the show from the start but I really got into it when they started running a story arch over several episodes and/or seasons.
The Dominion War lead to some of the best examples of character development as most of the crew faced tests to their beliefs systems. Captain Sisko allowing a Cardassian's death for the greater good! Jake Sisko's battlefield experience. Kira being assigned to Cardasia during the occupation. Nog losing a leg! Even Ducat's adventure as a Bajoran!
So many twists and turns that I found the last few seasons the best TV I have seen. The only other show to do this was Babylon 5, which I also loved to watch!
So Happy 20th Anniversary Deep Space Nine from an avid fan!
 
oh, and on the list of excellent DS9 Episodes... let's add the episode where Sisko goes through the conspiracy to get the Romulans into the Dominion War.
 
I preferred DS9 to even Next Gen after a while when it got dull. It was something new and interesting and now i feel very very old as i was 14 when this came on.
 
Wes R said:
I preferred DS9 to even Next Gen after a while when it got dull. It was something new and interesting and now i feel very very old as i was 14 when this came on.
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Same here. When TNG went off the air, I was not upset. I felt that they had told all the stories they could, and 1/3 of them twice!

When DS9 left the air, I was still very much wanting more!

For those who say, "They are aboard a stupid space station and never went anywhere!" I say, How many times did the crew on TNG actually LEAVE the ship after the 4th season? Most of the drama came to them on board the Enterprise.

You feel old? I was 23 when DS9 started! :lol
 
I loved watching DS9 and was the biggest reason why I hung out at the "Star Trek Experience" in Vegas. I did miss most of the last season so one of these days I'll buy the set and watch them all back to back. I liked how gritty the show was. Even the ones working together didn't always get along but they perservered. Kinda like real life. Happy Anniversary DS9
 
I also love how Deep Space Nine gave the franchise some truly epic space battles. Like when you see Three Galaxy Class starships charging the Dominion lines and two Miranda Class ships escorting the Defiant (and getting blown completely away). I always use Deep Space Nine as an example of of movies not always guaranteed to be better at portraying space battles. For example, Star Trek Nemesis was actually going to have a space battle between the Scimitar and a whole fleet of Federation ships. Unfortunately the budget didn't allow for this so it was just the Enterprise and some offshot Romulan Warbirds that don't amount to anything. Deep Space Nine gave us better space battles on a TV budget than a 60 million dollar movie.
 
I personally think DS9 was more like TOS than any of the other Trek spin offs. And I agree, it's my second favorite Trek show (TOS is #1).
 
tgreco said:
oh, and on the list of excellent DS9 Episodes... let's add the episode where Sisko goes through the conspiracy to get the Romulans into the Dominion War.
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Two excellent quotes from that episode:

Elim Garak: That's why you came to me, isn't it, Captain? Because you knew I could do those things that you weren't capable of doing? Well, it worked. And you'll get what you want: a war between the Romulans and the Dominion. And if your conscience is bothering you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Alpha Quadrant. And all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain.


Captain Sisko: So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all... I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again - I would. Garak was right about one thing: a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it... Because I can live with it... I can live with it... Computer - erase that entire personal log.




Benjamin Sisko is what you get when you combine the DNA of James T. Kirk and Shaft. I still love his encounter with Q.

Q: You hit me! Picard never hit me!
Sisko: I'm not Picard.
 
DS9 is my favorite of all Treks.

1) You get a lot of variety. It wasn't JUST a show about Federation folks. Each race had their own centered episodes. The Ferengi, Bajorans, Cardassians (and not always through Garek), Dominion, and even Klingon. It had a lot of variety and you got to see a lot of different view points.

2) For my money, it had the HIGHEST ratio of EXCELLENT episodes. The LEAST episodes of DS9 are "meh" (whereas the other series all have their head-slapping-ly lame episodes). No other series was as consistent with good material.

3) Many of the characters grew, BUT, and just as important, they knew when to NOT change characters. Quark at the end of the series was pretty much the same Quark at the beginning of the series. They allowed him growth, but never changed who he was. I really liked that (even though pretty much every other character did change... with the possible exception of Garak).

Over all, you'll find more meaning in "what it means to be human" in DS9 than any other Trek series. That's not to say I didn't like TOS, TNG, and Voyager - I enjoyed each of them immensely.

Also agreed that Duet was one of the finest Trek episodes ever written/acted.
 
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