Sucker Punch German Zombies
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parkseiii
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Steve,
I don't know if the mess tin handle was too fragile to sculpt on the model or maybe too fragile for the stunt guys to wear...most of the mess tins worn by actors in WW2 movies are made from rubber or foam so that it doesn't hurt to fall on them (same with the canteens, gas mask canisters and E-tools that were standard kit for German soldiers). Also, in the sculpt, the leather strap that holds the mess tin in place has an unusual loop in it, meaning that the mess tin strap was too long. As you can see in the photo above, the WW2 mess tin has a slot in the central handle, through which the strap should run. The WW1 mess tin was arranged differently, since it was meant to be strapped to the flap on the tornister (backpack).
I'm going to take some liberties with my German zombie impression, as well. Most significantly, I'm going to wear the Pickelhaube (spiked helmet), but without the helmet cover. Originally, I was going to wear jackboots, but now I think that I will go with the puttees. However, I'm not going as far as some of the concept art shows.
Do you have any rubber Mausers? I am still worried that Security may not allow my airsoft rifle.
Parks
well got back from a long day at the shop...was not really able to put much effort on the Gas Mask and gun search (made a Lewis Gun with pancake magazine)...also found a mauser mold with the bolt action so I can make a rubber version if needed and bayonet as well...will look more the next time I am out...mainly for the MG08/15 and stick grenades...
Did have some water jetting out of brass for the eye pieces and was able to use a camera lens much like the concept artwork...loving the way it mocks up so far...and waiting for all the goodies to slowly arrive =)
Lewis
Did have some water jetting out of brass for the eye pieces and was able to use a camera lens much like the concept artwork...loving the way it mocks up so far...and waiting for all the goodies to slowly arrive =)
Lewis
parkseiii
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After much consideration, I decided that I have to make permanent alterations to my original 1942 gas mask in order to make it Sucker Punch-like. I hate doing that to vintage items, but it wasn't especially valuable.
I also received the WW2 German horse gas filter from Poland, another wartime relic that I have to both sandblast and convert. This will be the gas canister worn on the back.
I may be interested in the rubber Mauser/bayonet.
Parks
I also received the WW2 German horse gas filter from Poland, another wartime relic that I have to both sandblast and convert. This will be the gas canister worn on the back.
I may be interested in the rubber Mauser/bayonet.
Parks
I stayed away from the gas masks from WWII and prior just due to the possible asbestos issues...I went with an Isreali version which is close enough in shape and style...
I have a gas mask can/holder coming...which looks like the correct one with the hook attachments for the Y-straps...time will tell when it arrives =)
Laters
Lewis
I have a gas mask can/holder coming...which looks like the correct one with the hook attachments for the Y-straps...time will tell when it arrives =)
Laters
Lewis
parkseiii
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My mask has no asbestos in it because the filter is separate and I wasn't using the original filter, anyway. I wanted to use it because it is the same mask on which the movie versions are based but of course, it requires modification. The canister I bought is a battlefield relic so it's full of muck, but after I clean it up, I'll seal it up. I won't breathe in anything from the canister.
Since I am modifying the mask, I will now buy a latex over-the-head zombie mask and then sew the gas mask directly to the latex mask.
My leather pickelhaube, being made in India, is more of a concern. Either mold got onto the leather or they didn't seal the leather after tanning, but it smells funky. I've tried to take out the smell with mold killer, disinfectants and baking soda, but the smell is still there. I may have to paint it to try to seal it.
Parks
Since I am modifying the mask, I will now buy a latex over-the-head zombie mask and then sew the gas mask directly to the latex mask.
My leather pickelhaube, being made in India, is more of a concern. Either mold got onto the leather or they didn't seal the leather after tanning, but it smells funky. I've tried to take out the smell with mold killer, disinfectants and baking soda, but the smell is still there. I may have to paint it to try to seal it.
Parks
This is fantastic information. Thanks for posting! I can't wait to get this costume started.
parkseiii
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Maybe I should make a combined shopping list of what you will need to make a complete German zombie soldier uniform (which is a mix of WW1 and WW2 articles), with links to where they can be purchased (disclaimer: I do not work for any of the sellers).
TRY EBAY FIRST to see if you can get used items at a cheaper price. If not, and you want to be completely authentic, I suggest that you go to these vendors:
Helmet: M1916 helmet
Jacket: Model 1907/10 Feldrock
Shoulderboards: IR 92 Schulterklappen
Trousers: Model 1907/10 Feldgrau Feldhosen
Greatcoat: M37 Greatcoat with WW1 buttons: 1910 Rimmed Crown Buttons
Belt: Black Leather Equipment Belt
Belt buckle: Württemberg Belt Buckle
Cartridge pouches: Black M1909 Cartridge Pouche
Y-straps: Leather Y-straps
Breadbag: Grey Breadbag
Canteen: Canteen
Bayonet: 98 Butcher Blade Bayonet and Scabbard
Bayonet frog: 98/05 Bayonet Frog
Mess tin: M31 Mess Kit
Puttees: German 12' Feldgrau Puttees
Boots: M42 Low Boots
Optional: Grenade: Stielgrenate 16
The last -- and most important -- item is the gas mask. The movie gas mask is based off the early-WW2 U.S. and Canadian design. It has to be converted from one hose to dual hoses, connected to a canister that is hung off the Y-straps by a custom leather carrier. You'll have to find this on your own, because it is not easily found. Attached below are detailed photos of the mask and canister, taken from the Gentle Giant sculpt:
And of course, the weapon...a Mauser Gewehr 98 rifle, with bayonet attached. That's the tricky thing to take into a convention.
Parks
TRY EBAY FIRST to see if you can get used items at a cheaper price. If not, and you want to be completely authentic, I suggest that you go to these vendors:
Helmet: M1916 helmet
Jacket: Model 1907/10 Feldrock
Shoulderboards: IR 92 Schulterklappen
Trousers: Model 1907/10 Feldgrau Feldhosen
Greatcoat: M37 Greatcoat with WW1 buttons: 1910 Rimmed Crown Buttons
Belt: Black Leather Equipment Belt
Belt buckle: Württemberg Belt Buckle
Cartridge pouches: Black M1909 Cartridge Pouche
Y-straps: Leather Y-straps
Breadbag: Grey Breadbag
Canteen: Canteen
Bayonet: 98 Butcher Blade Bayonet and Scabbard
Bayonet frog: 98/05 Bayonet Frog
Mess tin: M31 Mess Kit
Puttees: German 12' Feldgrau Puttees
Boots: M42 Low Boots
Optional: Grenade: Stielgrenate 16
The last -- and most important -- item is the gas mask. The movie gas mask is based off the early-WW2 U.S. and Canadian design. It has to be converted from one hose to dual hoses, connected to a canister that is hung off the Y-straps by a custom leather carrier. You'll have to find this on your own, because it is not easily found. Attached below are detailed photos of the mask and canister, taken from the Gentle Giant sculpt:
And of course, the weapon...a Mauser Gewehr 98 rifle, with bayonet attached. That's the tricky thing to take into a convention.
Parks
Cereza
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Hi guys, some guy asked a long time ago at the "sucker punch costumes " thread, for references of the german and british soldiers and i left him some photos of the artbook.
But I can see everyone is more interested in this both:
This is a good reference for the painting, and for the ones who doesn't own or want the book. Also the GG statue renders, are perfect.
I would buy the rubies mask, but looking at its pasts works, (and I think they are LATEX masks ) I won't expect much of precision. It's a good reference though, or for a cast maybe?
Oh, I forgot. I found this little b*stard by chance:
ps: Loving the dancing soldiers at the previous page.
But I can see everyone is more interested in this both:
This is a good reference for the painting, and for the ones who doesn't own or want the book. Also the GG statue renders, are perfect.
I would buy the rubies mask, but looking at its pasts works, (and I think they are LATEX masks ) I won't expect much of precision. It's a good reference though, or for a cast maybe?
Oh, I forgot. I found this little b*stard by chance:
ps: Loving the dancing soldiers at the previous page.
Hangar18Studios
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Great thread!
There are lot's of replica's of WWI German equipment available from International Military Antiques (IMA), just google them for the link.
BTW, anybody know why the Sucker Punch: Art of the Movie is so expensive now?
Scott
There are lot's of replica's of WWI German equipment available from International Military Antiques (IMA), just google them for the link.
BTW, anybody know why the Sucker Punch: Art of the Movie is so expensive now?
Scott
parkseiii
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Have to be careful with IMA, though. The leather shell on the pickelhaube I got from them was not cured properly and I can't get rid of the stink. They are, however, the only place I can find that has the replica WW1 German M1916 helmets in stock at the moment. The helmets are not quite perfect replicas, but they should be fine for cosplaying.
I asked B&N why the Sucker Punch art book fell so quickly out of everyone's inventory. As best as they could tell, the publishers underestimated the demand and didn't print enough. The critics may have savaged the film, but there are aspects to the film that have attracted many supporters. I work in the industry and have been comparing notes with other directors about Snyder's storytelling and artistic vision. Love it or hate it, he film provokes. I expect that the publisher will reprint the book, but probably only in softcover.
Parks
I asked B&N why the Sucker Punch art book fell so quickly out of everyone's inventory. As best as they could tell, the publishers underestimated the demand and didn't print enough. The critics may have savaged the film, but there are aspects to the film that have attracted many supporters. I work in the industry and have been comparing notes with other directors about Snyder's storytelling and artistic vision. Love it or hate it, he film provokes. I expect that the publisher will reprint the book, but probably only in softcover.
Parks
MwNN
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Finally finished the paint work, 3 days to finish the rest, please be gentle.
The mask/helmet looks fantastic. Great work!!
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