matty matt
Sr Member
Definitely.
Luke ROTJ brass vs copper
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Definitely.
And bronze can range from an orangey hue to a more gold one depending the ratio of metals in the alloy. I play and sell drums for a living, and I've noticed that cheaper cymbals that have less tin are more orangey than the nicer cymbals with the higher tin content, which tend to be more on the gold end of the spectrum.
I think it's a fairly safe bet to say they were painted. The reason why they went with new hilts based on the OWK, despite the script having the Emperor referencing how Luke's new saber looks "much like his father's", and painted it similarly is beyond me unless it was all a matter of keeping production costs low (working with what you've already got and making spares to match).
wow I've never seen this pic before!! I like the pommel with out the cubes!
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i forgot where I picked those images up - they're really cool I know!
It looks like MR made a v2 with dark copper paint on the neck and one with yellowish brass. Wut.
here's a nice link for those weird "metallic" paints on store shelves
http://www.brightgreendoor.com/the-gold-spray-paint-test/
also, these don't match, do they? I'm working on one of these currently and still have to decide on the neck color :lol
http://www.brightgreendoor.com/the-gold-spray-paint-test/
also, these don't match, do they? I'm working on one of these currently and still have to decide on the neck color :lol
newmagrathea
Sr Member
If your neck is made of copper then you could coat the outside with tin, then heat it up and the two metals will fuse together making brass. I was thinking of doing this for another part that I had in copper that I wanted to be brass.
Um... I'm certainly no metallurgist, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way.
newmagrathea
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That's crazy.
Like I said... I'm no metallurgist :lol
Like I said... I'm no metallurgist :lol
I'm beginning to think the ROTJ Hero saber was re-decorated when the shared stunt became a copper necked saber.
The card is original, but I think the rails were painted copper. maybe the neck too, over what it used to be. I bumped up the saturation on this photo and ..well the card is brass. I feel like the idea was to have it match at first
The card is original, but I think the rails were painted copper. maybe the neck too, over what it used to be. I bumped up the saturation on this photo and ..well the card is brass. I feel like the idea was to have it match at first
I think all of this copper confusion started with the publication of From Star Wars to Indiana Jones: The Best of the Lucasfilm Archives, which was a companion book to the exhibition that toured Japan starting in 1993. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was the first good look that we all got at the hero saber (as well as the shared stunt, and Vader stunt). Everyone thought, "oh look - that's copper," and that's what stuck in everyone's mind (plus the shared stunt neck clearly being copper didn't help matters).
Well, not so fast... look at how drab the green triangle LED on the control box is - clearly something is "off" with that photo.
In 1997 the Smithsonian Institution launched the Magic of Myth exhibition - I believe this pic was from their website back around that time (that's a National Air and Space Museum watermark):
To me this looks like a much better-lit and better color-balanced photo - the green LED appears more bright and vibrant. And that neck looks like dirty brass-colored paint to me. And the rails look like the golden-brown of tarnished brass.
According to Jason DeBord this pic was taken at the Lucasfilm Archives sometime in 1996 or 1997:
Again, that looks like brass-colored paint on the neck and tarnished brass rails.
Well, not so fast... look at how drab the green triangle LED on the control box is - clearly something is "off" with that photo.
In 1997 the Smithsonian Institution launched the Magic of Myth exhibition - I believe this pic was from their website back around that time (that's a National Air and Space Museum watermark):
To me this looks like a much better-lit and better color-balanced photo - the green LED appears more bright and vibrant. And that neck looks like dirty brass-colored paint to me. And the rails look like the golden-brown of tarnished brass.
According to Jason DeBord this pic was taken at the Lucasfilm Archives sometime in 1996 or 1997:
Again, that looks like brass-colored paint on the neck and tarnished brass rails.
I thought this too but HEY im not the best in that field either[emoji38]
Well that was 20 years ago, so I'm sure there wouldn't be anything about it there now.
Back then they probably wouldn't have had much of anything to say about it either - the exhibit was about the history and tradition of myths in storytelling, and how the Star Wars films tapped into that... it wasn't an exhibit about the history and construction techniques of the props and costumes (unfortunately
).The book that they put out back then only had two small photos of the hero - shown with the Obi-Wan costume (rusted tri-ring) - and a resin casting of the hero shown with the Luke ROTJ costume (shiny tri-ring). So in that respect the book was a bit of a letdown.
Friendly flyer
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I thought I had a reasonably good idea of metals, but I never thought that would work. Thanks a lot for the video!
Making this work require a very thin layer of chemically bound zinc. I'm fairly sure just coating a copper part with zinc powder won't do.
newmagrathea
Sr Member
Correct, it would be chemically bound, but you would buy zinc powder and lye to do this. I was going to do this to turn a copper spacer for my ESB Han Hoth DL-44 to brass, but the cost of everything I needed to this was way more than just buying a piece of brass.
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